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Taft2016 said:
True. I was reading something about the Barbary pirates recently... and something about Thomas Jefferson and a Turkish official, who basically said that they could do whatever they wanted to non-Muslims, including enslaving them.

There was one Irish coastal town that was raided, and basically everyone there was captured and sold into slavery.
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There is also a concealed history about the number of whites that were sent to the US as slaves as well.
 
Taft2016 said:
True. I was reading something about the Barbary pirates recently... and something about Thomas Jefferson and a Turkish official, who basically said that they could do whatever they wanted to non-Muslims, including enslaving them.

There was one Irish coastal town that was raided, and basically everyone there was captured and sold into slavery.
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Yes the Barbary Pirates were one of our first forays into dealing with radical islum. Just like the Crusades.

Lefties like Dante's and Darla love radical Jihadis because they hate America as much as they do. It is lost on Snarla that they are always coming after her city.
 
Dantès said:
You will eventually because there are so many fucked up people here who we already know are completely fucked up and they will spoil this thread for you! So you will not be able to keep this philosophy!
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That's right bitches. I will go full in Desh in your threads. You like crap flooding so I am going to crap flood down both your throats. Got it? Good
 
I Love America said:
I applaud the efforts of some here to try to educate the uneducable. You have to understand that the likes of Snarla and Dantes and Desh have been educated in left wing circles. They "know what they know" and have no room for anything else.

In their minds, the only way to talk about slavery is to paint white people in the worst possible light. When you say "not all slaves were beaten" the left immediately calls you a defender of slavery. It is no different than the rape debate. When you point out that there are instances of innocent men being accused of rape, or that women should be really careful about putting themselves in dangerous situations the left immediately calls you a "rape apologist".

Why is this? Because they aren't interested in actual debate. They are only interested in discussing things on THEIR TERMS. And if you don't discuss things on THEIR TERMS and the way THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THEM, then you are a racist, homophobic, child hating white guy.
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BINGO!! But I do need to correct the bolded part; it's not "actual debate", they are not interested in "HONEST" debate.
 
Taft2016 said:
No, I did not try to justify anything. That's your absurd reading of it.
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Sure you did. We, with our preconceptions, just don't understand the complexity of the issue and how bad it would make Lee look if he could not control his own household. Silly liberals thinking that the rights of another individual are more important than a man's image. Honestly, I would not use that horseshit to rationalize striking a dog and you are claiming it's a valid defense of brutal slavery.
 
Dantès said:
Whatever you want to say asshole; if you think I don't know the difference then go for it. You are so full of shit it is coming our your fucking blue eyeliner. Anyone who would believe a fucking word you said about anything would have to be totally fucked up just like you are.
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Nice vulgar rant containing an incredibe amount of grammatical errors. Yay you!
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
There is also a concealed history about the number of whites that were sent to the US as slaves as well.
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There is.

For those here who probably don't know, there is also this:

http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_2_urbanities-thomas_jefferson.html

But one cannot get around what Jefferson heard when he went with John Adams to wait upon Tripoli’s ambassador to London in March 1785. When they inquired by what right the Barbary states preyed upon American shipping, enslaving both crews and passengers, America’s two foremost envoys were informed that “it was written in the Koran, that all Nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon whoever they could find and to make Slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.” (It is worth noting that the United States played no part in the Crusades, or in the Catholic reconquista of Andalusia.)

Ambassador Abd Al-Rahman did not fail to mention the size of his own commission, if America chose to pay the protection money demanded as an alternative to piracy. So here was an early instance of the “heads I win, tails you lose” dilemma, in which the United States is faced with corrupt regimes, on the one hand, and Islamic militants, on the other—or indeed a collusion between them.
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And this:

http://www.baltimore.ie/heritage-history/the-sack-of-baltimore-1631.html

In the summer of 1631 Baltimore fell victim to a sensational attack by pirates. At that time the population consisted chiefly of settlers from England who had arrived some years earlier to work in the lucrative pilchard fishery under lease from the O'Driscoll chieftain, Sir Fineen O'Driscoll. Piracy was rife along the shores of West Cork, much of it of a home-grown variety; indeed the settlement's founder, Thomas Crooke, stood accused of involvement himself. However, the danger in this case was from much farther afield.

On board two ships that left Algiers was a combined force of Dutch, Algerians and Turks under the command of one of the most successful leaders of Barbary pirates, a renegade Dutchman, Murat Reis the Younger. By the time they reached the coast of West Cork, more than 1,000 miles away, they had already seized a number of smaller vessels, imprisoning their crews. The captain of one was a Dungarvan man by the name of John Hackett. Reis' original target was probably Kinsale, but Hackett declared the harbour there 'too hot' to enter and in return for his freedom he offered to pilot Reis to the defenceless village of Baltimore. Undetected, the pirates anchored outside the harbour 'about a musket shot from the shore' late in the evening of 19th June. From here they launched an attack on the sleeping village before dawn the next day.
The inhabitants were taken completely by surprise. More than 200 armed corsairs landed in the Cove, torching the thatched roofs of the houses and carrying off with them 'young and old out of their beds'. Moving on to the main village, the pirates took more captives before musket fire and the beating of a drum alerted the remaining villagers and persuaded Reis to end the raid. By that time more than 100 men, women and children had been taken. They were herded back to the ships, which bore them away from the coves of West Cork to the slave markets of North Africa.
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Dantès said:
You two are a real match both assholes so full of shit it is coming out your eyeballs! But your fucking matchmaking days are over fuck-nuts! You and that goat fucking research assistant of yours. You poor stupid icepuppet! Run and whine to Damo Tommy, run and whine you little fucking pee wee herman look alike. What movie theaters have they busted you masturbating in tommy?
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LMAO; this is your brain on vulgar and stupid, don't do vulgar and stupid.
 
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Aoxomoxoa said:
Prakosh is dirt poor and lives on the West Coast, so he can't afford to go to the South to see for himself.
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And if I had money I wouldn't spend it on a trip to a hell hole like the slave states all are. Why would anyone go there and give those states a dime of their money. They get enough through what little taxes I pay I wouldn't spend a dime in any of them. It has nothing to do with how much money a person has it has to do with what they or the people they get it from are doing to get it. The problem with capitalism is that people are dying to feed the machine and if you are taking any more than you need from that machine you are participating in that death and destruction. Now maybe to some like you and so many of the rest of the greedy ignorant fuckers on this planet that doesn't mean anything but it does mean something to me and I have paid dearly for that. Any stupid bastard on this planet can get greedy and amass money, there is nothing to that nothing at all. It doesn't take any brains and it doesn't take any special talent. It is just like populating the planet, any fool can find a wife and stop pumping out babies and when he gets tired of pumping out babies with her he can go someplace else and get a new wife and start pumping out some babies with her. None of that takes any special talent whatsoever. And then he can brag about how many babies he pumped out as if pumping out babies like puppies is something to be especially proud of. Because what this planet needs is several more babies.
 
Hasa Diga Eebowai said:
Sure you did. We, with our preconceptions, just don't understand the complexity of the issue and how bad it would make Lee look if he could not control his own household. Silly liberals thinking that the rights of another individual are more important than a man's image. Honestly, I would not use that horseshit to rationalize striking a dog and you are claiming it's a valid defense of brutal slavery.
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I claim no such thing. I was pointing out that Lee did not want to own slaves, sought to divest himself of them responsibly, and most importantly, was a man of HIS times. Not a man of our times.

What would you have done in Lee's shoes? Immediately turned them loose with no way to fend for themselves?

Meh, you can't think beyond your own parochialism.
 
Dantès said:
And if I had money I wouldn't spend it on a trip to a hell hole like the slave states all are. Why would anyone go there and give those states a dime of their money.
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To learn, which is a notion alien to you.

I learned that people in those states live together, not like the de facto segregated neighborhoods of northern cities.
 
Oh look it's a fucking right wing feeding frenzy! Go for it guys. Do what you want now! I have said all I have to say. if a person posts a picture and it isn't good enough then to hell with all of you!
 
Dantès said:
And if I had money I wouldn't spend it on a trip to a hell hole like the slave states all are. Why would anyone go there and give those states a dime of their money. They get enough through what little taxes I pay I wouldn't spend a dime in any of them. It has nothing to do with how much money a person has it has to do with what they or the people they get it from are doing to get it. The problem with capitalism is that people are dying to feed the machine and if you are taking any more than you need from that machine you are participating in that death and destruction. Now maybe to some like you and so many of the rest of the greedy ignorant fuckers on this planet that doesn't mean anything but it does mean something to me and I have paid dearly for that. Any stupid bastard on this planet can get greedy and amass money, there is nothing to that nothing at all. It doesn't take any brains and it doesn't take any special talent. It is just like populating the planet, any fool can find a wife and stop pumping out babies and when he gets tired of pumping out babies with her he can go someplace else and get a new wife and start pumping out some babies with her. None of that takes any special talent whatsoever. And then he can brag about how many babies he pumped out as if pumping out babies like puppies is something to be especially proud of. Because what this planet needs is several more babies.
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Poor bitter bastard. I am sorry that life has left you behind and my happiness and success causes you such anguish. You and Darla give such good Head ache
 
Taft2016 said:
I claim no such thing. I was pointing out that Lee did not want to own slaves, sought to divest himself of them responsibly, and most importantly, was a man of HIS times. Not a man of our times.

What would you have done in Lee's shoes? Immediately turned them loose with no way to fend for themselves?

Meh, you can't think beyond your own parochialism.
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In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it however a greater evil to the white man than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence.

—Robert E. Lee, letter to his wife on slavery (December 27, 1856)
 
Rune said:
Why don't you prove it wrong? It was your claim after all. You are a serious idiot. I guess you just seemed smart when compared to Truth Detecter! LOL
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I'm amused by your vagina man whine about my insulting posts when you spend so much time crapflooding threads with your insult laced little tirades.

You really are THAT stupid and a major hypocrite aren't you?

The irony for you is that you actually think you're smart; dunce.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it however a greater evil to the white man than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence.

—Robert E. Lee, letter to his wife on slavery (December 27, 1856)


This is what Lee said on the subject in a letter to his wife in 1856.
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Obviously quoted from an extremist right-wing rag of a book.
 
Dantès said:
And if I had money I wouldn't spend it on a trip to a hell hole like the slave states all are. Why would anyone go there and give those states a dime of their money. They get enough through what little taxes I pay I wouldn't spend a dime in any of them. It has nothing to do with how much money a person has it has to do with what they or the people they get it from are doing to get it. The problem with capitalism is that people are dying to feed the machine and if you are taking any more than you need from that machine you are participating in that death and destruction. Now maybe to some like you and so many of the rest of the greedy ignorant fuckers on this planet that doesn't mean anything but it does mean something to me and I have paid dearly for that. Any stupid bastard on this planet can get greedy and amass money, there is nothing to that nothing at all. It doesn't take any brains and it doesn't take any special talent. It is just like populating the planet, any fool can find a wife and stop pumping out babies and when he gets tired of pumping out babies with her he can go someplace else and get a new wife and start pumping out some babies with her. None of that takes any special talent whatsoever. And then he can brag about how many babies he pumped out as if pumping out babies like puppies is something to be especially proud of. Because what this planet needs is several more babies.
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This is Dantes (Prakosh) not Dantes (Darla).
 
Taft2016 said:
To learn, which is a notion alien to you.

I learned that people in those states live together, not like the de facto segregated neighborhoods of northern cities.
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Yeah, so the black women who have been raped by white men who never where charged or if they were charged weren't convicted and if convicted weren't jailed can be seen coming and going as free as birds from the porches of the black women who they raped. Yeah, I knew that without going there. But for someone like you going down into hell probably means something. It don't mean that much to me. And I sure as hell wouldn't give them any of my money!
 
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