Ginsburg knows, if Trump wins, the rule of law is at risk

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Paul Butler is a former federal prosecutor and a law professor at Georgetown University Law Center. He is the author of "Let’s Get Free: A Hip-Hop Theory of Justice.''


"Normally Supreme Court justices should refrain from commenting on partisan politics. But these are not normal times. The question is whether a Supreme Court justice – in this case, the second woman on the court, a civil rights icon and pioneering feminist -- has an obligation to remain silent when the country is at risk of being ruled by a man who has repeatedly demonstrated that he is a sexist and racist demagogue. The answer must be no.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s recent critique of Donald Trump has drawn bipartisan jeers. Ginsburg is being pilloried for publicly saying what many other Americans think, likely including some of her colleagues on the Supreme Court.

Still I understand the concern about Ginsburg going public with her views. Perceptions are important for the legitimacy of the Supreme Court -- that’s why the justices wear those silly black robes, sit high on a bench, and make everybody stand up when they enter the courtroom. Pretending that they are above the political fray is part of the same bag of tricks.

It is significant that Ginsburg chose to speak out now. She has been on the court during the presidential campaigns of several conservative Republicans, including George W. Bush, John McCain and Mitt Romney. She never criticized them. But there is, as even many Republicans have acknowledged, something different about the Donald.

It’s not just Trump’s misogyny.
It’s not only that he described Mexican immigrants as rapists and proposed barring Muslims from entering the United States.
It’s not just that he questions whether Mexican-American and Muslim-American judges are capable of being fair to him.
It’s not just his statement, as an African-American protester was being ejected from one of his rallies: “See in the good old days this didn’t happen because they used to treat them very very rough.”
It’s not only that Trump was reluctant to reject the endorsement of white supremacist David Duke, or that he has found nice things to say about Saddam Hussein, Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un.
It’s also that Trump has no governing principles or coherent ideologies other than “believe me and do what I say” and an appeal to a radical ethnocentrism among white people. This is the mark of a fascist.

When despots have ascended to power in other regimes, one wonders how judges should have responded. Should they have adhered to a code of silence while their country went to hell? Not on the watch of the Notorious R.B.G. She understands that if Trump wins, the rule of law is at risk.

In speaking out, Ginsburg has refused to elevate the appearance of justice over justice itself. The Washington chattering classes may not appreciate the breach of protocol, but history -- should the United States remain a democracy - will be a kinder judge."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/can-a-supreme-court-justice-denounce-a-candidate/ar-BBueCsf
 
When despots have ascended to power in other regimes, one wonders how judges should have responded. Should they have adhered to a code of silence while their country went to hell? Not on the watch of the Notorious R.B.G. She understands that if Trump wins, the rule of law is at risk.
get out of here..pure garbage
 
Rule of law at risk ???? no shit......Hillary walked after committing perjury and making gov. secrets available to our enemies......

Slick Willy walked after perjury, sexual harassment and several allegations of rape

IRS bosses walk after admitting discrimination against conservatives

Obama walks after refusing to obey the present immigration laws of the country, dishonoring his oath of office

So we know rule of is bullshit for the Democrats, the wealthy and the powerful......
 
Wait... so Gingsburg thinks that the rule of law is in danger under trump and her response to this is to make sure that one of the 9 justices who would most likely be against trump would be asked to recuse herself whenever a case against his administration is brought up?

She pretty much just invalidated her seat for a Trump presidency. Maybe she is mentally feeble and needs to go.
 
Rule of law at risk ???? no shit......Hillary walked after committing perjury and making gov. secrets available to our enemies......

Slick Willy walked after perjury, sexual harassment and several allegations of rape

IRS bosses walk after admitting discrimination against conservatives

Obama walks after refusing to obey the present immigration laws of the country, dishonoring his oath of office

So we know rule of is bullshit for the Democrats, the wealthy and the powerful......

Why am I not surprised that shady republicans never make your rants?
 
[Ginsburg] understands that if Trump wins, the rule of law is at risk.

Correct.

Trump has made it abundantly clear that he would appoint to the Federal courts, and indeed the Supreme Court, jurists hostile to settled, accepted Constitutional case law concerning the rights and protected liberties of all Americans – including the privacy rights of women, the equal protection rights of gay Americans, and the voting rights of minorities.

An agenda hostile to this Constitutional jurisprudence exhibits true contempt for the rule of law, where citizens’ rights would be subject to ‘majority rule,’ in conflict with the most fundamental principles of our Constitutional Republic.
 
Is he wrong?

Paul Butler is a former federal prosecutor and a law professor at Georgetown University Law Center. He is the author of "Let’s Get Free: A Hip-Hop Theory of Justice.''


"Normally Supreme Court justices should refrain from commenting on partisan politics. But these are not normal times. The question is whether a Supreme Court justice – in this case, the second woman on the court, a civil rights icon and pioneering feminist -- has an obligation to remain silent when the country is at risk of being ruled by a man who has repeatedly demonstrated that he is a sexist and racist demagogue. The answer must be no.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s recent critique of Donald Trump has drawn bipartisan jeers. Ginsburg is being pilloried for publicly saying what many other Americans think, likely including some of her colleagues on the Supreme Court.

Still I understand the concern about Ginsburg going public with her views. Perceptions are important for the legitimacy of the Supreme Court -- that’s why the justices wear those silly black robes, sit high on a bench, and make everybody stand up when they enter the courtroom. Pretending that they are above the political fray is part of the same bag of tricks.

It is significant that Ginsburg chose to speak out now. She has been on the court during the presidential campaigns of several conservative Republicans, including George W. Bush, John McCain and Mitt Romney. She never criticized them. But there is, as even many Republicans have acknowledged, something different about the Donald.

It’s not just Trump’s misogyny.
It’s not only that he described Mexican immigrants as rapists and proposed barring Muslims from entering the United States.
It’s not just that he questions whether Mexican-American and Muslim-American judges are capable of being fair to him.
It’s not just his statement, as an African-American protester was being ejected from one of his rallies: “See in the good old days this didn’t happen because they used to treat them very very rough.”
It’s not only that Trump was reluctant to reject the endorsement of white supremacist David Duke, or that he has found nice things to say about Saddam Hussein, Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un.
It’s also that Trump has no governing principles or coherent ideologies other than “believe me and do what I say” and an appeal to a radical ethnocentrism among white people. This is the mark of a fascist.

When despots have ascended to power in other regimes, one wonders how judges should have responded. Should they have adhered to a code of silence while their country went to hell? Not on the watch of the Notorious R.B.G. She understands that if Trump wins, the rule of law is at risk.

In speaking out, Ginsburg has refused to elevate the appearance of justice over justice itself. The Washington chattering classes may not appreciate the breach of protocol, but history -- should the United States remain a democracy - will be a kinder judge."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/can-a-supreme-court-justice-denounce-a-candidate/ar-BBueCsf

Presidents do not have either the power to make or enforce laws, so exactly what rule of law are you blabbing about?
 
Supreme Court Justices should stage an intervention.

It’s important to understand how far out of bounds Justice Ginsburg was in her comments to the New York Times. She barged into the presidential race by saying “I can’t imagine what the country would be with Donald Trump as our president,” joking that her late husband would say they should move to New Zealand if he won. The Justice kept it up in an interview on Monday with CNN, calling Mr. Trump “a faker” and wondering “how has he gotten away with not turning over his tax returns?”

Such overt partisanship from a judge should disqualify her from hearing any case related to the presidential election—such as voter ID laws. It would also raise doubts about her fairness in judging executive-branch actions if Mr. Trump becomes President.

Justice Ginsburg also betrayed the confidence of her Supreme Court colleagues on the left and right. She patted Justice Anthony Kennedy on the head for agreeing with her on racial preferences and abortion decisions, calling him “the great hero of this term.” She condescended that “I know abortion cases are very hard for him.”

Though Justice Elena Kagan recused herself in the Fisher race case, Justice Ginsburg said Justice Kagan would have voted with her too: “It would have been 5 to 3. That’s about as solid as you can get.” Justice Kagan is 56 years old and could lead a liberal majority for many years. We wonder how she feels about having Justice Ginsburg portray a liberal Court’s rulings in advance as little more than lock-step political exercises?

The Court’s most senior liberal also all but cheered that Justice Antonin Scalia wasn’t around to provide conservative majorities on cases involving immigration and public unions. “Think what would have happened had Justice Scalia remained with us,” she said.

She even declared how she’d vote on future cases—a first order judicial offense. “I’d love to see Citizens United overruled,” she said, referring to the 2010 case that restored the speech rights of unions and corporations. Concerning a landmark 2008 Second Amendment case, she said, “I thought Heller was a very bad decision.” According to the Times, she said the Court would have a chance to reconsider Heller when it takes up another gun challenge. Heller was decided 5-4.

Each of these verbal eruptions is a major breach of judicial decorum but taken together they raise larger issues. Under Section 28 US Code 455, “[a]ny justice, judge, or magistrate judge of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned.” A judge is also expected to disqualify himself “[w]here he has a personal bias or prejudice concerning a party.”

Justice Ginsburg talks as if the Court is a purely political body and seems oblivious to the damage she is doing. All of this raises questions about her judgment, her temperament, and her continuing capacity to serve as a judge. She should resign from the Court before she does the reputation of the judiciary more harm.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/ginsburgs-exit-interviewsginsburgs-exit-interviews-1468437647
 
the 'rule of law' has been dead in this country for decades. while totally unethical for RBG to say what she did, she wasn't totally off the mark.
 
Trump has made it abundantly clear that he would appoint to the Federal courts, and indeed the Supreme Court, jurists hostile to settled, accepted Constitutional case law concerning the rights and protected liberties of all Americans – including the privacy rights of women, the equal protection rights of gay Americans, . . . .

And if Clinton gets elected she has promised to appoint justices that will abrogate the legal theory that recognized and secured "the privacy rights of women, the equal protection rights of gay Americans" and throw that theory into question.

How can an unenumerated right that is only recognized to exist in the "emanations" and "penumbras" of the rights secured in first eight provisions of the Bill of Rights, be more vital, more important and more secure than a right that is actually enumerated in the Bill of Rights?
 
And if Clinton gets elected she has promised to appoint justices that will abrogate the legal theory that recognized and secured "the privacy rights of women, the equal protection rights of gay Americans" and throw that theory into question.

How can an unenumerated right that is only recognized to exist in the "emanations" and "penumbras" of the rights secured in first eight provisions of the Bill of Rights, be more vital, more important and more secure than a right that is actually enumerated in the Bill of Rights?

Ouch lol.
 
And if Clinton gets elected she has promised to appoint justices that will abrogate the legal theory that recognized and secured "the privacy rights of women, the equal protection rights of gay Americans" and throw that theory into question.

How can an unenumerated right that is only recognized to exist in the "emanations" and "penumbras" of the rights secured in first eight provisions of the Bill of Rights, be more vital, more important and more secure than a right that is actually enumerated in the Bill of Rights?
Our right are natural, the Constitution merely limits the power of the government to infringe on those rights, it doesn't grant us rights.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
 
Our right are natural, the Constitution merely limits the power of the government to infringe on those rights, it doesn't grant us rights.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

you advocate for gun control and free speech limitations, right?
 
Our right are natural, the Constitution merely limits the power of the government to infringe on those rights, it doesn't grant us rights.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Keep this in mind the next time you liberal idiots try to infringe on and reinterpret the 1st and 2nd Amendments.....
 
Yes, just as a advocate for your not being able to kill me at will. There needs to be laws and unfortunately, guns and speech need to be regulated.

that adoption does nothing more than allow for those opposed to your beliefs to regulate the rights that you hold dear as well. the establishment thanks you for playing......right in to their hands.
 
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