cawacko
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That’s false. It wasn’t him. With all the available ammunition against Trump why do you feel the need to lie about that?
Geroge Floyd - 6' 6" monster got 5 years for armed robbery in 2009
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That’s false. It wasn’t him. With all the available ammunition against Trump why do you feel the need to lie about that?
So? I call out what I call out. You are free to do the same. So far, not one poster on the left has claimed they are fucking my wife, or that they fucked my mother, or that they'd like to kill me. So I'm selective. So what? Feel free to call out anyone you want. It's basically an unmoderated board. It isn't that hard. You take care of you, and I'll take care of me. Thanks in advance.
cawacko
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The people would have the same reaction if it was a Hispanic or black cop who did this. There is a long history of mistrust between black community and the cops and it’s not all undeserved.
This was bad
You start from the assumption that the murder could not have happened, and then disregard any evidence that it did happen as impossible. The evidence you have to disregard is:
1) Surveillance video of him not resisting from the very beginning.
2) Bystander video of him not resisting when the choking began.
3) Medical common sense that he could not have resisted after he was unconsciousness, and choking continued.
4) Common sense that he could not have resisted after he was dead, and yet the choking continued.
Now I drank a few times when I was younger, and know for a fact there are ways to end up on the ground while not resisting arrest, but that would just be speculation by me.
Correct. And this should probably be pointed out, since the story was believable, but false. I made the same mistake. In situations like this, it's important that we stick to the facts. I don't think it was an intentional lie. Until you mentioned it, I hadn't seen that. That's the problem with getting information from Facebook or Twitter.
OUCH!!! Anyone with empathy felt that body blow to Truth Detester. I was wondering how this was going to come back on him. This is why I am careful with my reputation. Life has a much longer memory than we all would think.
Policing used to be about talking to people, and if necessary arresting them to have a judge or jury work out if they should be punished. Most of the time, it was boring. I have seen recruiting videos that make the police seem like a cross between special forces and vigilantes. Most police still are wonderful people, but there definitely is a rise in the Dirty Harrys.
That is a common belief. I have never seen a study that confirms most. My best friend in high school became a cop and I hung around with them until I could no longer stand the bigotry and disrespect for the law they kept mouthing. They all agreed they are the cop, judge, and jury and they should make the decision because the courts help the guilty get off. Only they knew the truth. I did not meet a guy who respected the law. The brotherhood they enter is complete. You are under the control of the group . They believe nobody understands their problems and therefore they have no right to criticize them.
No one is supposed to kill you stupid fuck..
Fair point. I would say an innocent person would be less likely to resist arrest. But I suppose that even an innocent person might panic and try to resist arrest.
Floyd tried to use what the store clerk thought was a counterfeit $20 bill. There are a lot of maybes before that gets Floyd actually guilty of a crime. The bill needs to be actually counterfeit. Many store clerks do not recognize the older bills that are still legal. Floyd needed to have known the bill was counterfeit. That one is hard to prove. Floyd made no attempt to flee the general area, and spoke easily to police. That does not show guilt to me.
Whether he was guilty or not, it does not matter to the murder charges.
cawacko
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Thank you Captain Obvious.
About a thousand Americans get killed a year, but that is more an estimate than a certainty. America is supposed to collect data on police killings, but we do not. It would just be common sense to look at police killings and try to figure out how to avoid them... BUT WE DO NOT!!!
Chauvin intended to choke Floyd, and choking can reasonably be foreseen to cause death. That gets Chauvin murder charges.
A "bad hold position" could excuse a few seconds, but not seven minutes. Chauvin had seven minutes to stop what he was doing
How many lives do blacks save every year?
Chauvin cannot defend murder because some other police officer saved a life.
In general I'd agree, but there is history here that can't be ignored. I can't possibly understand the experience of growing up black in America, but I do know that the fear of the cops is real and palpable, and there are definitely good reasons behind that fear. I know sometimes a black male will run even if they've done nothing, because they fear the encounter which could go south regardless of guilt or innocence. It's not something I can relate to, but I certainly understand it.
Maybe what I read is wrong. Maybe what you read is wrong. I do not know for sure yet.
OR YOU JUST MADEUP SOME SHIT...AGAIN.
I don't think he realized he was killing him. I watch cops all the time, and literally every purp that they have to wrestle down, says they can't breathe.
Just saying its never reported in the news. Maybe blacks wouldn't hate cops so much if they heard of heroic tales, not just the very few killings.