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David St. Hubbins said:
No. It's because their ideas for "fixing" the economy are fucking awful.



It is fairly predictable that a liberal would support left-wing policies and oppose right wing dogma (calling them policies isn't justifiable). Obama should have spent more and differently and we should be spending more right now instead of cutting. And TARP was fine. The failure was not implementing robust policies to reform the financial sector and in failing to do anything to resolve the foreclosure crisis.
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yeah...and that was all the result of the republicans and their policies.....they are so awful, yet you suport tarp

:rolleyes:

i knew only didn't like it because he wasn't liberal enough in throwing money at the problem
 
How did the current GOP frontrunner do creating jobs as chief executive of Massachusetts?






LOL, vote Gordon Gekko.....




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Superfreak said:
Actually, the economy got bad in October of 2007, it then got worse throughout 2008 and blew up in the fourth quarter of 2008 and into 2009.

While Obama's policies have done little to improve the situation, it is incorrect to state that things didn't 'get bad' until he took office.
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Home sales; gas; food prices; 401'ks; jobs ...the place people live, did not get "bad" until after he was in office. I don't work in financial markets, but I do live my life with all of those indicators. Those are the indicators of the majority of American's and it is those indicators that will drive the election-
 
Ice Dancer said:
Home sales; gas; food prices; 401'ks; jobs ...the place people live, did not get "bad" until after he was in office. I don't work in financial markets, but I do live my life with all of those indicators. Those are the indicators of the majority of American's and it is those indicators that will drive the election-
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Home sales, 401k values and jobs were all bad before Obama took office and have improved since then. You can pretend otherwise if you want to, but just understand that you are lying to yourself.

As for gas, higher gas prices are indicative of a global economic recovery and higher demand for gasoline. Yes, it stinks to pay more for gas, but that's the price of recovery. Food prices are a bit trickier in that they are dependent on oil prices to a large degree (agriculture is oil intensive) but also due to the commodities markets. I agree that Obama could have done more to regulate the commodities markets to curb speculative price increases, but my guess is that you're not a proponent of that type of government intervention.
 
David St. Hubbins said:
..under Obama, they were already bad. Under Obama, they got better. Just not enough better. ...
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The debt is much higher, unemployment is much higher, S&P downgraded our credit rating for the first time in history and housing equity has fallen to the levels of the Great Depression.
 
Superfreak said:
At this point in the last Presidential election cycle, Hillary was the SURE thing to win the Dem nomination and the Presidency. Bottom line, it is way too early to be making blanket statements one way or another.

If the economy gets better over the next year (unemployment down under 8%, GDP growth over 3.5%, deficit spending drastically reduced) then Obama wins re-election. If it does not, as long as the Reps put up a relatively moderate candidate, Obama is gone. If they put up a crackpot.... then it will be a battle of 'who sucks the least'.
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Obama wasn't well known at that point in time. Most of the Republican candidates are well known. Obama also has the ability to run good campaigns, and has incredible fundraising capabilities.
 
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