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Your timeline is a bit fucked. The economy was spectacularly bad before Obama assumed office and has improved significantly since then. Things didn't "get economically bad" under Obama, they were already bad. Under Obama, they got better. Just not enough better. Now, you can criticize him for things not getting enough better, as I have, but to claim that things got bad because of Obama is fucking stupid.




In the real world, under the Republican president "things got economically bad" (as you would put it) and John McCain wasn't promoting and meaningful change from Bush. Hence, Obama.

is it your claim that the economy has always improved since obama took office? that it has never declined?
 
I get this is a fun topic to discuss but it is 17 months before the election. We don't even know who all is running for the Republicans yet. And don't 'generics' always tend to trend higher than a real person?

yes. iirc, at this time obama wasn't really on the radar.....i believe many thought hillary would win
 
The economy was only beginning to get "bad" when Oblama took office. The point being, his policies have not improved the economy to any kind of degree that real "success" can be claimed. The second bailout, that was ALL Oblama, has not provided one iota of economic turn-around...not one-we stll have record unemployment and are still facing foreclosures and still shedding jobs and still watching states verge on bankruptcy! Indeed it can be argued his policies have hindered growth.

McCain it can likewise be argued may have helped the economy-no one knows nor can know- This is all about Oblama's failed economic policies. This race is all about that- ALL of it.

so the economy did not turn bad under bush??
 
One could make the case that 6 to 9 months before he got elected that the stock market got scared as soon as it was clear Obama would beat Mcain.
 
Yes, the economy immediately began to rebound as of January 20, 2009. Are you a fucking moron?




Yes, Obama is the reason the economy has picked up. What the fuck is the matter with you?

with you, i never know. your worship of all things left is your downfall....a simple "no" would have sufficed mr. grumpy
 
with you, i never know. your worship of all things left is your downfall....a simple "no" would have sufficed mr. grumpy

I think Obama's handling of the economy sucks ass. It just that the Republicans are orders of magnitude worse.
 
surely you are aware of how to pull a several years chart of the market?



Funny, I thought that you made the claim. I also wonder how a stock trend would prove your statement "the stock market got scared as soon as it was clear Obama would beat Mcain."
 
I think Obama's handling of the economy sucks ass. It just that the Republicans are orders of magnitude worse.

of course they are....because they aren't liberals

LOL

too predictable, and i bet you just don't like that obama didn't spend MORE with the stimilus...and you believe tarp was a failure....right?
 
of course they are....because they aren't liberals

LOL

No. It's because their ideas for "fixing" the economy are fucking awful.

too predictable, and i bet you just don't like that obama didn't spend MORE with the stimilus...and you believe tarp was a failure....right?

It is fairly predictable that a liberal would support left-wing policies and oppose right wing dogma (calling them policies isn't justifiable). Obama should have spent more and differently and we should be spending more right now instead of cutting. And TARP was fine. The failure was not implementing robust policies to reform the financial sector and in failing to do anything to resolve the foreclosure crisis.
 
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