GDP: US Economy grows at fastest pace in nearly two years. God Bless Bidenomics.

QP! said:
The problem is you are dumb and thus cannot make a coherent argument.

So now you are saying the Chinese did not like Trump adding over $4T to the debt and that is why they wanted him gone? Are you extending that out to say they released covid to accomplish that?
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The $4 trillion the government spent trying to fight this virus was on Trump's watch. As I said earlier in other posts, I cannot blame Trump or any other president for that expenditure although reflecting back, Trump was correct. The China virus would burn itself out regardless of the steps taken by the government.

Why you are trying to connect China and the $4 Trillion in expenses is beyond me but again, you are really, really stupid

With regard to your first sentence, Yes, that is my belief. China was no friend of Trump and they orchistrated, and sucessfully accomplished their goal.

Derp, derp, derp
 
Lionfish said:
The $4 trillion the government spent trying to fight this virus was on Trump's watch. As I said earlier in other posts, I cannot blame Trump or any other president for that expenditure although reflecting back, Trump was correct. The China virus would burn itself out regardless of the steps taken by the government.

Why you are trying to connect China and the $4 Trillion in expenses is beyond me but again, you are really, really stupid

With regard to your first sentence, Yes, that is my belief. China was no friend of Trump and they orchistrated, and sucessfully accomplished their goal.

Derp, derp, derp
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Ahahahaha you never fail to show how deeply stupid you are.

You think China unleashed the virus on themselves simply to get Trump. Fuuuuck you are stupid. Especially since if Trump has merely handled it well, it would have guaranteed him another term as POTUS, and it was only Trumps massive fuck ups that cost him the election.

And for the record, Trump debt was off the charts long before the Virus came along. His economy was already showing signs of recession before Covid as the debt and reduced revenues were kicking in.
 
QP! said:
Is this the failed argument, that we all laugh about, coming back up again?

The one where you guys first pretend Trump ran a great economy during his reign, that he deserves full credit for, while then saying all the debt put on during that time is the fault of Democrats, as they were the ones actually responsible for the choices that you guys say made the Trump term a success?


If so, i will accept it. We can agree that Nancy Pelosi and not Trump deserves the credit for anything you consider that was done well, during his term.
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Trump doesn't add to debt. The HOUSE DOES.
Nothing was done well during Nancy Pelosi.
 
QP! said:
Ahahahaha you never fail to show how deeply stupid you are.

You think China unleashed the virus on themselves simply to get Trump. Fuuuuck you are stupid. Especially since if Trump has merely handled it well, it would have guaranteed him another term as POTUS, and it was only Trumps massive fuck ups that cost him the election.

And for the record, Trump debt was off the charts long before the Virus came along. His economy was already showing signs of recession before Covid as the debt and reduced revenues were kicking in.
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Trump doesn't add to the national debt. The HOUSE DOES. It was DEMOCRATS that started the current economic depression.
 
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Only 14% of US voters say Joe Biden has made them better off…


More information can be found at https://www.ft.com/tour.
https://www.ft.com/content/c17c35a3-e030-4e3b-9f49-c6bdf7d3da7f


Only 14 per cent of American voters believe they are better off financially now than when Joe Biden took office, in the latest sign that the president’s economic record could undermine his re-election prospects.

A poll found that almost 70 per cent of voters thought Biden’s economic policies had either hurt the US economy or had no impact, including 33 per cent who said they believed the president’s policies had “hurt the economy a lot”. Only 26 per cent said his policies had helped


Financial Times
https://www.ft.com › Economy › US › US elections
Nov 12, 2023 — FT-Michigan Ross poll underlines president's struggle to overcome impact of inflation on voters' economic outlook.


Biden and the far left loons lie about the economy.
 
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QP! said:
Ahahahaha you never fail to show how deeply stupid you are.

You think China unleashed the virus on themselves simply to get Trump. Fuuuuck you are stupid. Especially since if Trump has merely handled it well, it would have guaranteed him another term as POTUS, and it was only Trumps massive fuck ups that cost him the election.

And for the record, Trump debt was off the charts long before the Virus came along. His economy was already showing signs of recession before Covid as the debt and reduced revenues were kicking in.
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The Chinese Disease killed many with pre-existing conditions as well as older "old school" dems and repubs who probably would have voted for Trump.

As for the debt spending, I'd say Biden has topped Trump.
 
RB 60 said:
The Chinese Disease killed many with pre-existing conditions as well as older "old school" dems and repubs who probably would have voted for Trump.

As for the debt spending, I'd say Biden has topped Trump.
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Yes Trump and his derps got a lot of his own voters killed with their garbage position on the vaccines. I applaud them for that. I also applaud Trump getting so many of voters to not vote by mail, when they used to be one of the biggest groups to do so.

Trump Magat Derp stupidity is the Dem's secret weapon against them and it glorious.

And you wrong re the debt but i am sure, as a Magat you do not care about accuracy or fact...

When Trump came to office the gross federal debt was $19.9 trillion and when he left it 27.8T ($7.9T added or 25%).

When Biden took office, it was $27.8 trillion and current debt is $33.8T ($6T added or 21%).


And note, that Trump added all that during a strong economy when he should have focused on surpluses and paying down debt, like Clinton did. And Biden added his during a time of extreme market turmoil when it is expected a gov't will utilize debt to help keep the economy afloat to limit the damage done.

But again, as a Magat i expect you to reject all that despite it being fact.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Wrong. Nixon proposed both to Congress and then worked to get Congress to pass bills to make both a reality. Nixon's reasons were self-serving and to get reelected. The Democrats were apathetic and divided on the subject. Nixon brought them together to pass the bill that became the EPA. The same thing is true of forming OSHA. In fact, Democrats, particularly in manufacturing and industrial states they controlled, both at the federal and state level in the aftermath of OSHA passage actively worked to undermine the bill because of pressure from business, industry, and unions.
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Dude, that is the history FROM YOUR LINK. Anyone can go and check the vote totals when they happened. Also, the bill was never a Conservative idea, it was a liberal one that Conservatives took and made worse.

MORE DEMOCRATS THAN REPUBLICANS VOTED FOR IT, both gross totals AND percentages of the caucus.

You needed liberals to help pass that bill, and the question was what have you idiots done on your own and passed on your own that was a success? NOTHING.

I didn't ask for a bill that started out as a liberal one, I asked for ANY BILL OR POLICY of Conservatives' own devising that didn't require more liberal than Conservative votes to pass.

You can't think of one and no Conservative can because you're a bunch of fucking morons with no good ideas.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Both started off as necessary and good things. They have devolved into massive bureaucracies with a zero-tolerance mindset today, however.
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But you just tried to take credit for that "massive bureaucracy" literally one post ago!

Fucking Nazis...unbelievably shameless.


What were once necessary and useful polices are becoming nitpicking and attempts to eliminate all pollution and make workplaces 100% safe.
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TA scoffing at the idea of a safe workplace. He's OK with safe-ish for other people, but never for himself.


Both goals are fool's errands and the EPA and OSHA today are crippling the economy and doing nothing to improve the environment or safety.
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Conservatism has you so beaten down that you cannot imagine a world where people are safe at work and we don't destroy the planet.

Literally your brain cannot process such a thing because...wait for it...you're a goddamn, stupid fucking idiot like every other Conservative ever.

Conservatives are so fucking stupid and their ideas are so fucking terrible that they only seek to destroy, never to create. Conservatism is regressive and fascist. It has done NO GOOD FOR ANYONE OTHER THAN RACISTS AND NAZIS.

That's why Nazis love Conservatives.
 
QP! said:
The problem is you are dumb and thus cannot make a coherent argument.

So now you are saying the Chinese did not like Trump adding over $4T to the debt and that is why they wanted him gone? Are you extending that out to say they released covid to accomplish that?
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Conservatives are fucking morons with no good ideas, which is why the economy always collapses when they are in charge.
 
RB 60 said:
The Chinese Disease killed many with pre-existing conditions as well as older "old school" dems and repubs who probably would have voted for Trump.

As for the debt spending, I'd say Biden has topped Trump.
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Because of your big, fat fucking mouth, more Conservatives than liberals died of COVID and it made the difference in at least two important races in AZ.
 
LV426 said:
But you just tried to take credit for that "massive bureaucracy" literally one post ago!
Fucking Nazis...unbelievably shameless.
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No, bureaucracies often start off with the best of intentions then grow into devastating monsters that can't be stopped.

TA scoffing at the idea of a safe workplace. He's OK with safe-ish for other people, but never for himself.
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How safe is safe enough?


Capitalism has you so beaten down that you cannot imagine a world where people are safe at work and we don't destroy the planet.
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Socialism has you so deluded that you think somebody else is responsible for all your bills, the government will take care of all your problems. You are a child in an adult's body thinking like a 10-year-old.

Literally your brain cannot process such a thing because...wait for it...you're a goddamn, stupid fucking idiot like every other Conservative ever.
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It is you that is fucking stupid.

When the government requires by law / regulation that you spend upwards of $100 on a battery recycling kit because your commercial business uses batteries, there's something fucking wrong.

1FYF1_AS01


When the government under the ADA requires your sinks to have covers over exposed plumbing because some idiot might get an ooowie, or a scratch if they don't pay attention, there's something fucking wrong.

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This pickaninny, mindless, insignificant, and costly bullshit goes on from asshole government regulatory agencies today all the time. A kid can't have a lemonade stand any more. A person can't make and sell tamales, or any other product, made in their home kitchen at a swap meet anymore.

Thank God Nobody Died From This Texas Woman's Illegal Tamales
Massive fines over a very common home-based business.
https://reason.com/2016/08/12/thank-god-nobody-died-from-this-texas-wo/

Katie Hobbs Gets Singed After Unwrapping Tamale-tastrophe
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/new...e-backlash-from-cottage-food-vendors-16095547

I'm fucking happy people have more common sense than bureaucrats. I happily and gratefully accepted Christmas tamales from a lady named Franchesca in apartment #2 at "Comanche" as I call the complex when I came and swapped out the bad breaker for her stove. She was thrilled someone came right away and fixed the problem. Fuck the government and their idiot rules.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
How safe is safe enough?.
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Without even watching the video, I think I know the answer...safe enough that it doesn't eat into profits, or that the settlement payout for a wrongful death lawsuit is less than the costs of keeping workers safe.

Do I get a prize for correcting guessing the misdirection of your argument?
 
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