Garland's refusal to indict Trump may be worse than Trump's crime.

T. A. Gardner said:
99.9% of the people sentenced for Jan 6 crimes were for things like trespass, attacking police, etc. The usual things associated with rioting.
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Did you pull that number out of your ass or do you have facts to back it up?

I agree most of those who pled out pled to 1) lesser crimes of criminal trespass and assaulting police. Going to prison for 3-5 years is no joke. 2) those convicted at trial are the ones facing the harshest charges and who will serve the longest sentences.

If you drop your Trumpian blinders, Terry, you know that the IQ of a mob is in inverse proportion to it’s size. Most people were “caught in the moment”…a moment that was set into motion by a select few of seditionists and Pedo Don himself.
 
Things that make you go hmmmmmm:

It's just possible that Garland understands that tRump's actions do not meet the requirements of the law in order to prosecute even if a Congressional Committee really wants it to happen and that taking partisan action pre-primaries will, in the end, hurt the chance of tRump running an effective Primary campaign. And he knows that if tRump were to win in republican primaries it would give Brandon his only possible chance to win a second term.
 
Althea said:
Not necessarily. Intent is key. trump stole documents. We don't even know what Biden had from his days as VP.
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We also don't know what he has from his time in the Senate. Don't forget he hoarded some of these documents for decades. Had them there for decades before making the "incredibly irresponsible" and "I don't know how that could EVER happen!" remarks.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
That's not what I said at all.
What I said is that if we prosecute the losing side, even justifiably,
it would start a precedent of prosecuting the losing side, justifiably or not.

Our angry polarization is on the precipice of making us a banana republic.
Americans are too afflicted with "true believerism" to understand exactly how unstable we've become.
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yes. due to marxist critical theory society destroyers like yourself.
 
Doc Dutch said:
Did you pull that number out of your ass or do you have facts to back it up?

I agree most of those who pled out pled to 1) lesser crimes of criminal trespass and assaulting police. Going to prison for 3-5 years is no joke. 2) those convicted at trial are the ones facing the harshest charges and who will serve the longest sentences.

If you drop your Trumpian blinders, Terry, you know that the IQ of a mob is in inverse proportion to it’s size. Most people were “caught in the moment”…a moment that was set into motion by a select few of seditionists and Pedo Don himself.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...-riot-charges-convictions-trials-two-years-on

860 out of 950 people charged with entering restricted govt buildings and or grounds
 
Damocles said:
Things that make you go hmmmmmm:

It's just possible that Garland understands that tRump's actions do not meet the requirements of the law in order to prosecute even if a Congressional Committee really wants it to happen and that taking partisan action pre-primaries will, in the end, hurt the chance of tRump running an effective Primary campaign. And he knows that if tRump were to win in republican primaries it would give Brandon his only possible chance to win a second term.
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trump is just the inevitable realpolitik candidate...........

Trump 2024!
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T. A. Gardner said:
The Senate did an actual bipartisan investigation into Jan 6. It was published, I linked it. Unlike the House, their report wasn't intended to get anyone in particular, nor was it intended to sway public opinion by putting the whole thing on primetime TV. The House ran an absurd show trial that was two parts Stalin, one part Kafka.
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And the rest Mao. If the House Committee had its druthers tRump would vanish from photographs like an "out of line" 1940s Communist Party Member in the USSR.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Possession is the key here. It doesn't matter if it was accidental, or on purpose. The law regarding handling of classified documents is clear. Mishandling them is a crime.
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The law regarding classified documents requires more than just possession. It requires intent. Failing to turn over when asked would imply intent. Turning over the minute they are found and claiming an accident makes it hard to prove intent.

Trump's biggest problem is his refusal to comply with a subpoena asking for the documents and possibly ordering someone to move them so they wouldn't be found during a search. If Trump had turned them over when asked there would be no legal peril for him.
 
Althea said:
Not necessarily. Intent is key. trump stole documents. We don't even know what Biden had from his days as VP.
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There is no proof that Trump stole or intended to steal documents. It would be impossible to prove that in court unless you have evidence that Trump personally packed every box that left the White House.

Where intent becomes easier to prove is when he didn't return them when asked. That is Trump's legal peril.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
That's not what I said at all.
What I said is that if we prosecute the losing side, even justifiably,
it would start a precedent of prosecuting the losing side, justifiably or not.

Our angry polarization is on the precipice of making us a banana republic.
Americans are too afflicted with "true believerism" to understand exactly how unstable we've become.
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Banana republics are afraid to prosecute crime.
 
Doc Dutch said:
What percentage is that Yak? Do you know how to figure it out without help?

Do you understand that the Feds are still hunting down another ~700 criminals? I expect most will plead out like those already serving their sentences.
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I sure do uncle. I posted that only so you can look more stupid than you already do if that's even possible. Btw good seeing you today uncle.
 
BidenPresident said:
False. Banana republics favor those in the privileged class.
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Every place favors those in the privileged class.
That's why the class is privileged.
They wouldn't be if they weren't favored.

They might have other advantages, of course, but "privilege" wouldn't be among them.
 
Yakuda said:
I sure do uncle. I posted that only so you can look more stupid than you already do if that's even possible. Btw good seeing you today uncle.
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It’s okay if you can’t do it….even when I gave you the answer. LOL
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Any prosecutor worth their salt won't bring a case that has little chance of success forward. That is the reason Garland isn't moving on Trump.
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Tell that to Trump and Barr and their Special Counsel, joke, Durham, who is searching for any case he can and bringing ones that get laughed out of court in a desperate need to get something.


If this was reversed and Trump and Barr were in charge after Biden did all the things Trump did, he would already be in court on his tenth charge.
 
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