Garland's refusal to indict Trump may be worse than Trump's crime.

BidenPresident said:
Gerald Ford settled the issue for Jaworski, with his pardon of Richard Nixon. We have been living with the consequences of that decision ever since — and it has taken shape as an instinctual move to shy from holding presidents to account. It has also made our democracy look weaker than that of other peer countries.

The United States appears uncomfortable with applying the most basic of legal principles: No man is above the law.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/20/opinion/ford-nixon-trump.html
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T. A. Gardner said:
No, he won't. If he were to do it for the classified documents, then Biden is going to have to be charged, and that's definitely not happening. If Garland charges Trump then dissembles and doesn't charge Biden, Biden is absolutely ass fucked come 2024. The hypocrisy of that move won't go down well with the public.
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Biden and Pence would not have to be charged. trump actively stole highly classified documents, and now we know that they were copied onto a computer.

We don't even know what Biden and Pence ended up having in their possession.

trump sold classified information. Biden/Pence did not.
 
Althea said:
Biden and Pence would not have to be charged. trump actively stole highly classified documents, and now we know that they were copied onto a computer.

We don't even know what Biden and Pence ended up having in their possession.

trump sold classified information. Biden/Pence did not.
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Possession is the key here. It doesn't matter if it was accidental, or on purpose. The law regarding handling of classified documents is clear. Mishandling them is a crime.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Possession is the key here. It doesn't matter if it was accidental, or on purpose. The law regarding handling of classified documents is clear. Mishandling them is a crime.
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Not necessarily. Intent is key. trump stole documents. We don't even know what Biden had from his days as VP.
 
Althea said:
How? Does is clear trump and his staff from plotting the terrorist attack since December?
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It's far more objective than the House dog and pony show was. Or, have you not noticed that the whole Jan 6 screaming and yelling about Trump and traitors has just disappeared from the news cycle since the election?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It's far more objective than the House dog and pony show was. Or, have you not noticed that the whole Jan 6 screaming and yelling about Trump and traitors has just disappeared from the news cycle since the election?
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Objective? How so? I won't waste my time reading that nonsense, but it looks like you are trying to blame the FBI for trump's actions.
 
Althea said:
Not necessarily. Intent is key. trump stole documents. We don't even know what Biden had from his days as VP.
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Have you ever had a security clearance? I held a Secret for almost 30 years. You take classified documents home, whether your intent was evil or benign, you are guilty of a felony. Biden is just as guilty as Trump because the reason the documents were taken is irrelevant in the eyes of the law.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Have you ever had a security clearance? I held a Secret for almost 30 years. You take classified documents home, whether your intent was evil or benign, you are guilty of a felony. Biden is just as guilty as Trump because the reason the documents were taken is irrelevant in the eyes of the law.
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Great. Arrest Trump and impeach Biden.
 
Althea said:
Objective? How so? I won't waste my time reading that nonsense, but it looks like you are trying to blame the FBI for trump's actions.
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The Senate did an actual bipartisan investigation into Jan 6. It was published, I linked it. Unlike the House, their report wasn't intended to get anyone in particular, nor was it intended to sway public opinion by putting the whole thing on primetime TV. The House ran an absurd show trial that was two parts Stalin, one part Kafka.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Have you ever had a security clearance? I held a Secret for almost 30 years. You take classified documents home, whether your intent was evil or benign, you are guilty of a felony. Biden is just as guilty as Trump because the reason the documents were taken is irrelevant in the eyes of the law.
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Wrong. Biden might just have letters from foreign dignitaries addressed to him. It's possible that 10 years ago there was a name in the letter that was considered to be classified. We know some of the documents that trump stole are highly sensitive. That's why he got $2billion for them.

We have yet to see what Biden/Pence have.
 
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