Free college!

Getin the ring said:
yea, more free stuff. What deficit

Liberals have truly lost their minds
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Not really...it's just you never learned critical thinking skills...or apparently math either.

Look it's not free for the taxpayers. It's free for the students but it's a sound investment as those with college degrees and technical trade skills earn on average over their career double to triple what someone with just a high school education will earn. So though it's a substantial investment upfront, just like high school, the back end ROI is huge with those who receive the free education paying far more tax dollars over their life than they would have otherwise.

So unlike your Santa Clause/Easter Bunny/Great Pumpkin like faith in mythologies like Supply Side Economics growing the economy investing in education has actually proven to grow our economy and the middle class.

To bad you missed that train, huh?
 
IBM has 100 high schools across the country that it is providing a 13th and 14th year of training. When the student graduates from high school they get jobs in Tech. Coursework done online is less than half the price of providing courses on a campus.
 
Bigdog said:
Colleges are already filled to capacity. How many new colleges will have to be built and when will they be ready to accept students for free? ... 10 years from now???
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As many as it takes and why think of all the laborers we can put to work making a living middle class wage building those schools where students will attend and learn skills to become entrepreneurs, tradesmen, technologist/technicians, etc. Why it's a big win, win!
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Not really...it's just you never learned critical thinking skills...or apparently math either.

Look it's not free for the taxpayers. It's free for the students but it's a sound investment as those with college degrees and technical trade skills earn on average over their career double to triple what someone with just a high school education will earn. So though it's a substantial investment upfront, just like high school, the back end ROI is huge with those who receive the free education paying far more tax dollars over their life than they would have otherwise.

So unlike your Santa Clause/Easter Bunny/Great Pumpkin like faith in mythologies like Supply Side Economics growing the economy investing in education has actually proven to grow our economy and the middle class.

To bad you missed that train, huh?
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And each and every one thoroughly indoctrinated in far Left Communist "I hate America" ideology, is the true objective here.
 
Bigdog said:
Public education in liberal controlled cities produces graduates that can't read or write. Guess you get what you pay for :palm:

What high school did you attend?
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Why do you give a rats ass? It's obvious that higher education is meaningless to you or you would have availed yourself to it....assuming you had the ability.
 
noise said:
Why colleges with billions of dollars still charge tuition
http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/04/pf/college/endowments-financial-aid/index.html

Donald Trump says the richest colleges could be charging you less for tuition, and punishing those schools is how he plans to tackle the rising cost of college.

He's not the only one questioning whether wealthy universities with big endowments are charging their students way too much money. A congressional committee is currently looking into the issue, asking the richest colleges to explain how much of their endowments are actually spent on students, in a way that lowers their tuition cost.
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Great! I'm all for it. Parents and tuition have been a bottomless well for Academia in both the public and private sphere. I'd like to see them held accountable to their administrative costs. Whatever works. I'm all for greater investment in education. The more people with more skills the better off our country is.
 
Cypress said:
Do you know the who the only people are that I have ever heard complaining and crying about public funding for college?

Yep, that's right. Barely educated, bitter, Republican nit wits.
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I wouldn't have put it that harshly but it is hard to give credibility to people who themselves do not see the advantages of advanced education nor participated in it themselves.
 
Boris The Animal said:
And each and every one thoroughly indoctrinated in far Left Communist "I hate America" ideology, is the true objective here.
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Yea right...so the only way to be a real god fearin true American patriot is to be dumb, skill less and uneducated rube like you?

Meh...Don't think so.

Look if you don't want to be educated...well don't but you'd be wise to stay out of the way of those whom do.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Yea right...so the only way to be a real god fearin true American patriot is to be dumb, skill less and uneducated rube like you?

Meh...Don't think so.

Look if you don't want to be educated...well don't but you'd be wise to stay out of the way of those whom do.
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No one can argue with that.
 
Sailor said:
Affordable or free education is hardly a "extreme left idea". And obviously in this case not even a Democrat one. Time to wake up and smell the coffee.
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:nonono::nonono::nonono:

I won't let you get away with that.

It's an extreme idea to a lot of people on the left and the right. I don't find it extreme at all, but I guess racist right wingers can't be called out on their shit without throwing someone else in the mix.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
That's crap, and that's exactly what was happening in Missouri when we left, too. The only jobs for non-BSN nurses were in nursing homes, physicians' offices, or managed care/insurance companies. But if they can insist on the BSN, with the current glut of RNs, that's what they will get.
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Well....what you end up with are nurses that are book smart, who don't operate well under pressure. Passing up nurses with decades of experience, in order to make quotas.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Smart thing to do. If other States don't follow suite Tennessee will develop a significant competitive edge in the labor force.
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NY implemented this in the spring, for all SUNY schools...albeit for those who earn $125k/year or less. There's a stipulation that you must work in the state for a certain number of years after graduation, but I don't see a problem with that. There have always been loan forgiving programs for those who work in depressed areas for 5 years after graduation.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Indeed it would as it requires significantly more than the traditional high school education to be competitive in todays labor market and odds of making a middle class income based solely on a high school education are not good.

The real advantage here though is that community colleges have a lot to offer in terms of technical and traditional trades too. My late brother in-law received an industrial arts A.S. degree at a local community college in CNC machining and he made serious money as a tool maker until his alcoholism entered the acute stage.
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Rest assured, he wasn't a toolmaker unless he spent years learning it. There's quite a difference between a CNC machinist and an experienced toolmaker.

Mott the Hoople said:
Well duh! LOL
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Why are you slobbering on yourself? That was over 15 years ago when that (2 term democrat) governor lied saying gambling proceeds would offset our property taxes and they would go down.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
As many as it takes and why think of all the laborers we can put to work making a living middle class wage building those schools where students will attend and learn skills to become entrepreneurs, tradesmen, technologist/technicians, etc. Why it's a big win, win!
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You're putting the cart before the horse. Only 4% of students graduating from some of the Free Public high schools in NYC are qualified to even attend college. :palm:

Fix those free public High Schools first before you waste money building new colleges. Otherwise, your idea to send unprepared students to college is just stupid and wasteful.
 
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