Former Swiss Intelligence Officer blows the whistle on West's Ukraine War Narrative

I’ve been looking into some of the background of Jacques Baud, who is cited in the OP as a reliable authority on the causes of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

In 2020 Baud was interviewed on RT where he gave his expert opinion that there is “no history of poisoning by the Russian secret services”; the Skripals merely had a bad case of “food poisoning” (the local woman who picked up a phial and died had an even worse case, presumably); and Alexei Navalny was poisoned by some “mafia”, definitely not by state agents.

These and other interesting claims by Baud are reported and analysed here:
https://www.conspiracywatch.info/su...-cases-du-conspirationnisme-geopolitique.html
(sorry, it’s in French).

Now, we may believe Baud on the Russia/Ukraine war, because we are told he’s an authority on that. But should we believe the rest???
 
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Has it ever occurred to you that western propaganda has gotten people to the point that anyone criticizing or even questioning the western mainstream narrative is labelled as a "Putin sympathizer"?

A lot of things have occurred to me. NUMBER ONE THING- You sound like a PUTIN Bot!

How's the weather at the Kremlin today?

Goodbye!
 
Has it ever occurred to you that western propaganda has gotten people to the point that anyone criticizing or even questioning the western mainstream narrative is labelled as a "Putin sympathizer"?

Suck that Putin cock
 
I’ve been looking into some of the background of Jacques Baud, who is cited in the OP as a reliable authority on the causes of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

In 2020 Baud was interviewed on RT where he gave his expert opinion that there is “no history of poisoning by the Russian secret services”; the Skripals merely had a bad case of “food poisoning” (the local woman who picked up a phial and died had an even worse case, presumably); and Alexei Navalny was poisoned by some “mafia”, definitely not by state agents.

These and other interesting claims by Baud are reported and analysed here:
https://www.conspiracywatch.info/su...-cases-du-conspirationnisme-geopolitique.html
(sorry, it’s in French).

Now, we may believe Baud on the Russia/Ukraine war, because we are told he’s an authority on that. But should we believe the rest???

Yeap


It’s a Russo bot hole

A really shitty one


It’s programmer better not drink the tea putin sends him


His performance is really shitty
 
I’ve been looking into some of the background of Jacques Baud, who is cited in the OP as a reliable authority on the causes of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

In 2020 Baud was interviewed on RT where he gave his expert opinion that there is “no history of poisoning by the Russian secret services”; the Skripals merely had a bad case of “food poisoning” (the local woman who picked up a phial and died had an even worse case, presumably); and Alexei Navalny was poisoned by some “mafia”, definitely not by state agents.

Phantasmal brought up Jacques Baud's food poisoning claim yesterday in my "Dirty Bomb" thread and I responded to him in the following post there:
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...-%91Dirty-Bomb%92-Scare&p=5349219#post5349219

As I told her, "It may well be that Baud is mistaken in regards to this, but his article on the war in Ukraine doesn't mention poisoning of any kind."


These and other interesting claims by Baud are reported and analysed here:
https://www.conspiracywatch.info/su...-cases-du-conspirationnisme-geopolitique.html
(sorry, it’s in French).

Google chrome can translate a lot of foreign language articles to english. I also found an article that references the food poisoning claim and brings up other issues that's in english:

How Accurate is Jacques Baud’s Analysis of the War in Ukraine? | The Daily Sceptic

Now, we may believe Baud on the Russia/Ukraine war, because we are told he’s an authority on that. But should we believe the rest???

What rest are you speaking of? If it's the food poisoning claim, I never claimed he was an expert on that.
 
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Jacques Baud is an expert or at least a keen practitioner of dezinformatsiya. Everything I have seen attributed to him serves the Kremlin line. What his motives might be
I don’t know.

It would be interesting to see his opinion of how the anti-Putin activist Alexander Litvinenko died after taking tea with a Russian agent in London in 2006. Really bad tea,
I guess.

Or who shot down MH17 in the Donbas in 2014, killing nearly 300 passengers and crew (unless they were dead already as some Russian sources claimed at the time).

The first rule of dezinformatsiya: the Kremlin may say several contradictory things at different times but it’s always right.
 
Phantasmal brought up Jacques Baud's food poisoning claim yesterday in my "Dirty Bomb" thread and I responded to him in the following post there:
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...-%91Dirty-Bomb%92-Scare&p=5349219#post5349219

As I told him, "It may well be that Baud is mistaken in regards to this, but his article on the war in Ukraine doesn't mention poisoning of any kind."




Google chrome can translate a lot of foreign language articles to english. I also found an article that references the food poisoning claim and brings up other issues that's in english:

How Accurate is Jacques Baud’s Analysis of the War in Ukraine? | The Daily Sceptic



What rest are you speaking of? If it's the food poisoning claim, I never claimed he was an expert on that.

Phantasmal is a her, just saying.
 
A lot of things have occurred to me. NUMBER ONE THING- You sound like a PUTIN Bot!

How's the weather at the Kremlin today?

Goodbye!

Putin did a four hour speech the other day where on several occasions he was laughing like an archetypal Bond villain over the use of nukes.

 
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Jacques Baud is an expert or at least a keen practitioner of dezinformatsiya. Everything I have seen attributed to him serves the Kremlin line. What his motives might be I don’t know.

Fine, but I've yet to see someone point out any flaws in the article he wrote that I quoted and linked to in the opening post. Do you?


It would be interesting to see his opinion of how the anti-Putin activist Alexander Litvinenko died after taking tea with a Russian agent in London in 2006. Really bad tea,
I guess.

As I already mentioned, I never said he was an expert on whether or not Russia's governments have poisoned people. His knowledge of the war that's been going in Ukraine for the past 8 years is another matter.

Or who shot down MH17 in the Donbas in 2014, killing nearly 300 passengers and crew (unless they were dead already as some Russian sources claimed at the time).

No idea what Jacques Baud's thoughts are on the downing of the aircraft alleged to be MH17, but I've done my own research there and have come to the conclusion that Russia wasn't involved in its downing.
 
Putin did a four speech the other day where on several occasions he was laughing like an archetypal Bond villain over the use of nukes.



Maybe I'm not remembering right, but Bond villains seemed to go for a lot more than a light chuckle. As to whether he should have made the joke he did and chuckled with his audience about it, I'm not sure. I can definitely think that he could have done far worse than that, especially considering the fact that NATO's been trying to weaken his country pretty much since he put boots on the ground in Ukraine.

I suspect that part of the reason that Putin did that 4 hour news session was to do some diplomacy. And while it may not be the most polite way of putting it, I can't help but agree with him that Truss was not eaxctly the most logical UK Prime Minister. Here's what Biden apparently said of her not too long ago:

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Following the meeting [Biden] told aides that the new British leader was “really dumb” and not to be treated seriously.
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Source:
Even Biden Noticed That Truss is Stupid | Spoils of War
 
Maybe I'm not remembering right, but Bond villains seemed to go for a lot more than a light chuckle. As to whether he should have made the joke he did and chuckled with his audience about it, I'm not sure. I can definitely think that he could have done far worse than that, especially considering the fact that NATO's been trying to weaken his country pretty much since he put boots on the ground in Ukraine.

I suspect that part of the reason that Putin did that 4 hour news session was to do some diplomacy. And while it may not be the most polite way of putting it, I can't help but agree with him that Truss was not eaxctly the most logical UK Prime Minister. Here's what Biden apparently said of her not too long ago:

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Following the meeting [Biden] told aides that the new British leader was “really dumb” and not to be treated seriously.
**

Source:
Even Biden Noticed That Truss is Stupid | Spoils of War

Biden calling anyone else dumb is truly beyond parody. The bond markets did for her, sadly 50% of UK debt is in the form of bonds so their power is truly terrifying. I suspect Biden was against her because she played a pivotal role in Brexit negotiations, especially in Northern Ireland, so it was just more of his malarkey.
 
No idea what Jacques Baud's thoughts are on the downing of the aircraft alleged to be MH17, but I've done my own research there and have come to the conclusion that Russia wasn't involved in its downing.

The international Joint Investigative Team into the downing of Flight MH17 comprised members from the Netherlands (where the flight started) plus Malaysia, Australia, Belgium and Ukraine. After four years' investigation the JIT concluded that MH17 was brought down by a Russian Buk missile fired from separatist-controlled territory in Donetsk. A criminal trial is just concluding, but none of the accused showed up – they stayed in Russia.

You have evidence to suggest that the JIT is wrong? Please show us.
 
According to the 2001 census, the proportion of people in eastern Ukraine whose first language is Russian ranges from 24.9% to 74.9% by region:

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Comparing this with the referendum results, which range from 87.05% to 99.23% for joining Russia, it appears that a large number of “ethnic Ukrainians” must have voted in favor. A triumph for Putin’s charisma, perhaps? :dunno:

Or...maybe in Crimea and the Donbass (Luhansk and Donetsk Oblast's), the people wanted out of the mess that was Ukraine?


1) 'The U.S and European Union may want to save Crimeans from themselves. But the Crimeans are happy right where they are.

One year after the annexation of the Ukrainian peninsula in the Black Sea, poll after poll shows that the locals there -- be they Ukrainians, ethnic Russians or Tatars are mostly all in agreement: life with Russia is better than life with Ukraine.'


https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrap...locals-prefer-moscow-to-kiev/?sh=1a1bf7b7510d


'As part of a broader polling project in the post-Soviet states, we asked the Levada-Center to return to Crimea in December 2019 to survey public attitudes there, five years after our initial survey. The 2019 survey consisted of face-to-face home interviews with 826 people, with a response rate of 54 percent. The survey used both direct questions as well as experimental ones that were designed to reach honest and reliable answers on sensitive topics. The proportions by nationality—the common term for ethnicity in post-Soviet countries—in the sample closely correspond to their ratios in the Crimean census of 2014. In our sample, 66 percent of respondents identified as Russian, 13 percent as Tatar—the ethnic Turkic group that makes up about one-eighth of the population of the peninsula—and 16 percent as Ukrainian.

Crimea was the fastest-growing region of Russia in 2019.
In general, Crimea’s annexation in 2014 gave residents grounds for optimism, with a majority of Crimeans hopeful that their lives would change for the better. After five years of development initiatives, more than $20 billion worth of investment from Moscow, and integration into Russia’s infrastructure, have expectations in Crimea changed?

From our survey data, it is possible to compare how Crimeans saw their future in December 2014 and how they perceived it five years later. Interviewees were asked if they expected to be better off after two years. Russians in Crimea harbored high hopes in 2014 (93 percent expected to be better off in two years), but they were somewhat less hopeful in 2019 (down to 71 percent). The proportion of Tatars who indicated that they thought being part of Russia would make them better off rose from 50 percent in 2014 to 81 percent in 2019. Ukrainians in Crimea remained generally optimistic: 75 percent indicated they expected to be better off in 2014, close to the 72 percent who did so in 2019. These generally high levels of optimism across ethnic groups suggest that most Crimeans are pleased to have left Ukraine for Russia, a richer country.

Despite the everyday logistical difficulties involved in breaking away from Ukraine, support for the exit remains undiminished. Approval of the outcome of the March 2014 referendum was still very high among Russians (84 percent) and Ukrainians (77 percent) in December 2019, both unchanged from 2014.

https://www.colorado.edu/geography/2020/04/04/john-oloughlin-russia-love


2) I would post polls from Luhansk and Donetsk?
But, since 2014 (yet before Russia's invasion), over 3,000 innocent civilians in these regions have been killed by Kiev shelling the crap out of/devastating much of their 'regions'?
I think it should be pretty obvious that they are not anxious to return to Ukraine...any time soon.

https://ukraine.un.org/sites/defaul...mber 2021 (rev 27 January 2022) corr EN_0.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas_(2014–2022)


3) the conclusion is obvious:
civilians living in Crimea and in LPR/DPR - OVERWHELMINGLY support no longer being apart of Ukraine.


(though what those people living in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia Oblast's feel on this - is another matter entirely)
 
...maybe in Crimea and the Donbass (Luhansk and Donetsk Oblast's), the people wanted out of the mess that was Ukraine?

How do the people of Mariupol feel about joining Russia, any ideas? It's in the Donetsk Oblast, so I guess 99% of them are in favor of joining, if there are any left after the Russian siege. The city authorities estimate 20,000 killed, but that may be an exaggeration.
 
No idea what Jacques Baud's thoughts are on the downing of the aircraft alleged to be MH17, but I've done my own research there and have come to the conclusion that Russia wasn't involved in its downing.
The international Joint Investigative Team into the downing of Flight MH17 comprised members from the Netherlands (where the flight started) plus Malaysia, Australia, Belgium and Ukraine. After four years' investigation the JIT concluded that MH17 was brought down by a Russian Buk missile fired from separatist-controlled territory in Donetsk. A criminal trial is just concluding, but none of the accused showed up – they stayed in Russia.

You have evidence to suggest that the JIT is wrong? Please show us.

Ms. Phoenyx and Ms. Moon have a lot in common, don'tcha think? Similar ideology and they already know each other.

I won't hold my breath waiting for evidence proving the Russians innocent of shooting down MH17, the guilt of any other parties, or how it's all the fault of the West. She/they'll just claim it's true and stick with that lie.

This is their main message:

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Is it Ms Phoenyx? I didn't know that!

Well, she says she's done her own research there. I'm waiting to hear about that. :)
...most certainly a foreigner. Although a lot of gender differences are cultural, there are definitely male and female communication trait differences. Yes, Ms. Phoenyx is female, foreign and anti-Western.
 
How do the people of Mariupol feel about joining Russia, any ideas? It's in the Donetsk Oblast, so I guess 99% of them are in favor of joining, if there are any left after the Russian siege. The city authorities estimate 20,000 killed, but that may be an exaggeration.

Had Putin moved only into the Separatist areas, while there'd have been noise, there'd have been very few sanctions and most people would be focused upon the COVID recovery.

Once he overreached, he fucked up any chance of holding the Separatist areas, much less all of Ukraine.
 
Biden calling anyone else dumb is truly beyond parody. The bond markets did for her, sadly 50% of UK debt is in the form of bonds so their power is truly terrifying. I suspect Biden was against her because she played a pivotal role in Brexit negotiations, especially in Northern Ireland, so it was just more of his malarkey.

I only mentioned Biden because of the fact that he's on the opposite side of Putin and yet he still agreed that Truss' intelligence wasn't exactly top knotch.

I went looking to find out a bit more about her resignation online and came up with an article on the subject that I think was quite good. Here's the introductory paragraphs:

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Looking back on it, Liz Truss’ premiership was doomed to fail from the very start, after she failed to convince more Tory MPs than Rishi Sunak that she was the one to take the party and the country forward. Despite this, a majority of the Tory members liked what they heard from her, and as such she became Prime Minister in possibly one of the least democratic ways possible short of launching an outright coup (with only 0.02% of the population being able to have a say in the decision). As a result, when the disastrous mini-budget was announced some of her own MPs said that they would vote against it in the House of Commons. What’s more, they did this during their own party conference where they were meant to be Trussting Liz (sorry) to deliver, and giving the impression of a united party ready to take the country forward into a new era of growth, growth, and even more growth.

By now, you all probably already know the disastrous effects of the mini-budget - the exchange rate dropping faster than an elephant that’s been chucked out of the top of the Empire State Building, mortgage prices skyrocketing, and the cost of borrowing increasing dramatically, to name a few - not least because I covered them in my first ever post. But what has happened since that fateful event has been nothing short of chaos of the highest order.

First, we had the U-turn on the scrapping of the 45p top rate of tax, possibly the most unpopular bit of the budget, during the Conservative Party conference. Then came the sacking of Kwasi Kwarteng (robbing us of good Octonauts jokes) on the 14th October for implementing a plan that Truss had dreamt up, which consequently lost Truss a lot of her political capital (not that she had very much left to begin with), especially after Jeremy Hunt was named as Kwarteng’s replacement and she U-turned on her policy to keep corporation tax at 19% in a shambolic press conference lasting a total of seven or eight minutes, with Truss, with her list of sympathetic journalists as empty as Spurs’ trophy cabinet, only taking a few questions before running away.

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Full article:
Frackin' Hell: Why Truss Had To Go | Sweet Disquisition


If you prefer a mainstream media source with a much shorter storyline along the same lines:

Why Liz Truss had to go [Once Truss renounced Trussonomics, what was left?] | The Spectator
 
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