Former Pentagon Advisor Says US Likely Attacked Nord Stream to Isolate Germany

The Chinese know if the Russians did it, and that if it was not the Russians then it almost had to be the Americans. If America did it and they can prove it then we are in for a world of hurt as they make the case to EUROPE that now is the time to abandon America.
 
Look at how often we find you attacking other speakers as you avoid the subject matter.
#10, if you weren't such a pussified drunk, then you'd be more honest about the fact you dislike me calling out your drunken anti-Americanism and conspiracy theories.
 
He’s right, all we’ve seen here is wild accusations without the least amount of proof, and all of them center on Biden

We are not in a position to prove anything, because our leaders lie to us constantly, we are deceived and kept in the dark because they consider the American people to be serfs.

You can not talk at all or recite their propaganda as they want you to, but that would make you an idiot.
 
#10, if you weren't such a pussified drunk, then you'd be more honest about the fact you dislike me calling out your drunken anti-Americanism and conspiracy theories.

You are such a fucking liar, I am one of JPP Premier free mind/free speech advocates.
 
A lot of America bashing on just pure here say, but if Biden were to hump a flag they’d all say he was patriotic
There was a US war ship 30 miles from the Nord Stream pipelines at the time of the explosions. That's close enough to send out ROVs to place the bombs.
 
You are such a fucking liar, I am one of JPP Premier free mind/free speech advocates.

Prove it, #10.

The fact you lying about me and trying to push me out is proof you only support your own ideas, no one elses.
 
We are not in a position to prove anything, because our leaders lie to us constantly, we are deceived and kept in the dark because they consider the American people to be serfs.

You can not talk at all or recite their propaganda as they want you to, but that would make you an idiot.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, the “Revolution,” or is it “deep state” this time, maybe the “globalists,” or some other undefined generality, perhaps it was the Seven Dwarfs, or Popeye’s nephews, what’s the difference
 
There was a US war ship 30 miles from the Nord Stream pipelines at the time of the explosions. That's close enough to send out ROVs to place the bombs.

Let us remember too that about a half dozen years ago the Americans became concerned at the effort the Russians were putting into undersea cable cutting and demolition capabilities, and decided to redouble our efforts to do the same. However, I doubt that the military did this, it would have been the CIA.
 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, the “Revolution,” or is it “deep state” this time, maybe the “globalists,” or some other undefined generality, perhaps it was the Seven Dwarfs, or Popeye’s nephews, what’s the difference

Learn, or Leave.
 
Let us remember too that about a half dozen years ago the Americans became concerned at the effort the Russians were putting into undersea cable cutting and demolition capabilities, and decided to redouble our efforts to do the same. However, I doubt that the military did this, it would have been the CIA.

Two anti-American, conspiracy theorist nutjobs agreeing that the US blew up WTC and also the Nordstream pipeline. Awesome.
 
'A former Pentagon advisor says the most likely culprits behind the Nord Stream pipeline blasts are the United States and Britain, and that the attack was carried out to prevent Germany from bailing on the war in Ukraine.

Retired US Army colonel Douglas Macgregor made the comments during an appearance on the Judging Freedom podcast.

Macgregor said a process of elimination rules out Germany, because they are dependent on Nord Stream for their energy security, while it also served no benefit for Russia to have sabotaged its own infrastructure.

“Would the Russians destroy their own pipeline? 40 percent of Russian gross national product or gross domestic product consists of foreign currency that comes into the country to purchase natural gas, oil, coal and so forth. So the Russians did not do this. The notion that they did I think is absurd,” Macgregor said.'


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'However, citing reports that more than 500 kg of TNT had been detected in both explosions, the former Pentagon advisor suggested only the United States and British Royal Navy had the capability to pull off the attack.

“Then you have to look at who are the state actors that have the capability to do this. And that means the Royal Navy, the United States Navy Special Operations,” said Macgregor.


“I think that’s pretty clear. We know that thousands of pounds of TNT were used because these pipelines are enormously robust. You have several inches of concrete around various metal alloys to move the natural gas. So it’s not something that you could simply drop a grenade down at the end of a fish line and disrupt. That means it takes a certain amount of sophistication,” he added.

Macgregor suggested that the motive behind the attacks was to prevent Germany from bailing on the Ukraine war after Berlin began “to give the impression that they were no longer going to go along with this proxy war in Ukraine.”'


https://summit.news/2022/10/03/form...ked-nord-stream-pipelines-to-isolate-germany/

I am inclined to believe it was Biden. It makes no sense that Russia would sabotage their own pipes when all they have to do is turn it off.

It would also take some technology to set a blast off in deep icy waters like that.
 
Let us remember too that about a half dozen years ago the Americans became concerned at the effort the Russians were putting into undersea cable cutting and demolition capabilities, and decided to redouble our efforts to do the same. However, I doubt that the military did this, it would have been the CIA.
Again, it has been verified there was a US war ship 30 miles from the Nord Stream pipelines. Underwater drones can easily reach their target from there.
 
That the US did it certainly seems more likely than that the Russians did...I said this at the jump. I dont know how it will ever be proven, if it can be proven, but if it is then the Chinese will make a lot of hay over this, one of their main arguments is that America treats our allies like shit.

Biden: No Nord Stream 2 pipeline if Russia invades
 
Two anti-American, conspiracy theorist nutjobs agreeing that the US blew up WTC and also the Nordstream pipeline. Awesome.

Less than 48 hours before Putin invaded Ukraine, Hawkeye and the thread author were also writing on this board that Putin would never invade Ukraine.
 
Is that the same Macgregor that was appointed by Trump to to advise his acting defense secretary after he fired the other one for not supporting his coup?
The same Macgregor that has been on RT?
The same Macgregor that went on Fox in support of Putin's invasion?
The same Macgregor that Liz Cheney said is part of the Putin wing of the Republican party?


I would take his claim that only the US can do this with a grain of salt, or maybe a block of salt would be better.

Simple minded twits always attack the source and not the facts. How did you become such a simple-minded fool? Watching MSNBC? You voted for Biden. You owe ALL Americans an apology.
 
Again, it has been verified there was a US war ship 30 miles from the Nord Stream pipelines. Underwater drones can easily reach their target from there.

The CIA would not use Navy assets, they would use their own. We now have 20 years of experience with the CIA operating as a secret military force, they always have as little to do with the military as possible. When the CIA asked my wife (USA) to help them in Iraq the ask was notable in how unusual it was.
 
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