Former ACORN Director Gets $445 Mil From U.S. Treasury

Darla said:
Why is he wedded to that belief though Tom? Racism isn't always conscious, but when someone is such a fucking buffoon and a partisan hack that they refuse to even examine their own motives, then that doesn't speak highly of them either.
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Says the woman who refuses to actually read what was written. You said the same damn thing I did, yet somehow proclaim me to be a liar and a racist. Do explain to us how that works Darla.
 
Darla said:
And btw, I am done with this, and done with this board. I really dislike letting you and your scumbag friends get away with lying, so I posted one more time. I encourage anyone who starts to believe the additional lies this scumbag will post, to simply google each conviction.

He's lying by saying they all occurred in 2010. Do the work yourself, I wont be back to do it for you.

Superfreak is a liar. It's very very very easy to find out for yourself. Don't let him distract you with his ranting. He's a liar, a hack and racist, just like Damo.

Check it out for yourselves. I did all the work because everyone else here wants to let them get away with it, but I'm not committing anymore time to it. I'm done. They never stop lying so there's no point. That's all they do - lie.
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The real reason you're "leaving" is because your ego can't accept the fact that all your bullshit, was just that; bullshit.
No one forced the Acorn people to say the things they did in the tape; unless you have proof that they were hired actors.
Everything after that was just you trying to throw up hubris, in an attempt to save face and try to appear knowledgeable.

With all that said; Don't let the door hit, where the good Lord split you.
 
Darla said:
And btw, I am done with this, and done with this board. I really dislike letting you and your scumbag friends get away with lying, so I posted one more time. I encourage anyone who starts to believe the additional lies this scumbag will post, to simply google each conviction.

He's lying by saying they all occurred in 2010. Do the work yourself, I wont be back to do it for you.

Superfreak is a liar. It's very very very easy to find out for yourself. Don't let him distract you with his ranting. He's a liar, a hack and racist, just like Damo.

Check it out for yourselves. I did all the work because everyone else here wants to let them get away with it, but I'm not committing anymore time to it. I'm done. They never stop lying so there's no point. That's all they do - lie.
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Don't let Simplefreak run you off Darla. He is funny, but mostly full of shit.
 
Darla said:
Hey lying hack racist what's up?

I can easily prove that you're lying with one quick google and I can do it from a repuke site:

"Former Milwaukee ACORN employee Kevin L. Clancy (pictured above) was convicted of election fraud a few days ago. Clancy’s conviction brings the total number of convictions for former ACORN workers to at least fifteen so far in 2010.

Clancy entered a guilty plea to playing a part “in a scheme to submit fraudulent voter registration applications,” said Wisconsin Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen. Clancy acknowledged submitting multiple voter registration applications for the same persons and registering himself and other voter registration canvassers to vote repeatedly while employed at ACORN during the 2008 election cycle.

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/11...cks-up-15th-voter-fraud-conviction-this-year/

You're fucking lying and you know you are. You are highly educated and understand that those 2010 convictions, which by the way ACORN gave the information to help convict those lazy employees, were not actually perpetuated in 2010, they were just convicted then.

But you continue to lie because you're a liar, a hack, and a very angry racist.

And btw, Fuck you.
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uh, isn't that what "convicted in 2010" means?.....
 
Damocles said:
Former ACORN Director Gets $445 Mil From U.S. Treasury

The Obama Administration has given a former director at the scandal-plagued Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) nearly half a billion dollars to offer “struggling” Illinois homeowners mortgage assistance, a Judicial Watch investigation has found.

It means the ACORN official (Joe McGavin) will go from operating a corrupt leftist community group that’s banned by Congress from receiving federal funding to controlling over $445 million in U.S. taxpayer funds. The money is part of a $7.6 billion Treasury Department program to help the “unemployed or substantially underemployed” make their mortgage payments.

In this case, JW found that a subcomponent of the state-run Illinois Housing Development Authority, known as the Illinois Hardest Hit Program, received a generous $445,603,557 Treasury infusion. The Obama Administration established Hardest Hit in 2010 to provide targeted aid to families in states hit hardest by the economic and housing market downturn, according to its website.

In early 2011 McGavin was appointed as director of Hardest Hit. Before that he was director of counseling for ACORN Housing in Chicago and operations manager for a Chicago ACORN offshoot called Affordable Housing Centers of America (AHCOA). His strong ties to ACORN make him a suspect candidate to handle such a huge amount of taxpayer dollars.

More at link...
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Seems like he's very qualified for the job. Good for him!

I know I'm new here and all that, but can I ask you a question?

What was the only conviction to come out of the whole ACORN witch hunt?

James O'Keefe. :whoa:
 
Howey said:
Seems like he's very qualified for the job. Good for him!

I know I'm new here and all that, but can I ask you a question?

What was the only conviction to come out of the whole ACORN witch hunt?

James O'Keefe. :whoa:
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After reading the entire thread, I'd like to clarify the above. ACORN, the organization itself, has been found to be innocent. The only arrests were of contract employees who were paid per voter registration turned in.

From FactCheck:

Neither ACORN nor its employees have been found guilty of, or even charged with, casting fraudulent votes.
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O'Keefe has, as pointed out, been arrested and convicted.
 
Howey said:
After reading the entire thread, I'd like to clarify the above. ACORN, the organization itself, has been found to be innocent. The only arrests were of contract employees who were paid per voter registration turned in.

From FactCheck:



O'Keefe has, as pointed out, been arrested and convicted.
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Of course ACORN itself could not cast a fraudulent vote. But they are responsible for the actions of their employees while the employees are acting on their behalf. If there were an isolated incident here and there over their history, that would be one thing. But we are talking multiple situations of registration fraud in multiple states. That falls upon the leadership of ACORN in terms of accountability to the taxpayers that fund them.
 
Superfreak said:
Of course ACORN itself could not cast a fraudulent vote. But they are responsible for the actions of their employees while the employees are acting on their behalf. If there were an isolated incident here and there over their history, that would be one thing. But we are talking multiple situations of registration fraud in multiple states. That falls upon the leadership of ACORN in terms of accountability to the taxpayers that fund them.
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That's a mighty broad brush of The Buck Stops Here, ya know? It's not like ACORN coerced these volunteers to cheat, no more than the Republican Party in California did in 2006:
The secretary of state's office said Friday that it would investigate allegations that signature gatherers who were paid to sign up voters for the California Republican Party submitted registration forms containing fake names...

The latest investigation comes six months after San Bernardino County prosecutors announced a probe of more than 3,000 apparently fraudulent voter registration cards submitted to the state GOP.

In April, McPherson and Atty. Gen. Bill Lockyer announced a related inquiry into allegations of voter registration fraud in Riverside and Orange counties.

Riverside County officials said they received voter-registration cards with problems that included missing driver's license or state identification numbers.

In Orange and San Bernardino counties, some residents complained that they were improperly registered as Republicans.
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So it's a two way street. In both cases, mostly with ACORN though, the invalid registrations were identified beforehand and action was taken. Isn't that the way it's supposed to be?

In summary, and to repeat...the only criminal here is O'Keefe. He should be arrested and prosecuted for every illegal vote he attempts to turn in.
 
Howey said:
That's a mighty broad brush of The Buck Stops Here, ya know? It's not like ACORN coerced these volunteers to cheat, no more than the Republican Party in California did in 2006:


So it's a two way street. In both cases, mostly with ACORN though, the invalid registrations were identified beforehand and action was taken. Isn't that the way it's supposed to be?

In summary, and to repeat...the only criminal here is O'Keefe. He should be arrested and prosecuted for every illegal vote he attempts to turn in.
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In summary and to repeat... the 15 convicted of registration fraud are also criminals.

To repeat... I don't care what the organization is or which party they prefer (or are)... if there is fraud in their organization to the extent it was in ACORN, they should not receive tax payer funding.

I will ask you this, given that ACORN was so 'valuable'... why did the left not fund it from other sources? The federal funding was not the major source of revenue for them from what I have read. Why did other Dem/left groups/individuals not support it??? Why did Dems in DC vote to defund it? Why didn't Obama stand up to those that wanted to defund it?
 
Superfreak said:
That is your only hope of prevailing in this discussion.
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According to your idiotic theory, the US Congress should not be taxpayer funded.
Note that by percentage, Congress itself is more than 1000 times more corrupt than ACORN, SuperHack.

[h=3]How many US senators and congressmen are convicted felons?[/h]

[h=1] I did not realize that there have been that many congress persons that have been charged and or convicted. I am appalled. I wish others were more concerned with this than I suspect really cares. I found 43, now it that not what the Senate needs to block a bill? Alot of these people came back and became lobbyist. Is that allowed should it be, they are too close to the action and can they be trusted....[/h][h=1]Do we really want someone back in Congress who served time for corruption charges, I do not think so. We have enough trouble in Congress without adding convicted felons back in. [/h][h=1]DOES YOUR CONGRESSPERSON HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD?[/h][h=1]Traficant misses key filing deadline to return to Congress[/h]
By Michael O'Brien - 02/20/10 04:30 PM ET
Former Rep. James Traficant (D-Ohio) missed the filing deadline to return to Congress this week.

Traficant, a Youngstown-area lawmaker who was expelled from the House in 2002 after being convicted on corruption charges, missed the Thursday deadline for candidates to file to run for Congress, according to a local NBC affiliate.

But missing the filing deadlines doesn't forestall the possibility of a Traficant comeback still this cycle.

A spokesman for WFMJ that Traficant had prepared filings for both Ohio's 6th and 17th congressional districts, but declined to file as a Democratic candidate. He could still file to run as an independent candidate in those districts by May 3, however.

The 17th district, Traficant's old seat, is now held by Rep. Tim Ryan (D). The 17th district is held by Rep. Charlie Wilson (D), where Traficant could have more of an impact as an independent in the district, which is seen as marginally favoring Republicans.

Traficant has flirted with returning to Congress since being released from prison in September of 2009. The former lawmaker, long a centrist member of congress, vowed to settle some scores with old enemies on both sides of the aisle if he were to return to Washington.

Sentences of other congressman convicted of crimes
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 3/4/06

Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:55:07 PM by NormsRevenge
Since the 1970s, more than a dozen congressmen have been convicted in criminal court. Their cases and sentences include:
- Rep. Andrew J. Hinshaw, R-Calif., spent a year in jail after
 
Rune said:
According to your idiotic theory, the US Congress should not be taxpayer funded.
Note that by percentage, Congress itself is more than 1000 times more corrupt than ACORN, SuperHack.
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LMAO... you truly are desperate to protect the corruption in ACORN. By all means, post the numbers for us.

[h=3]How many US senators and congressmen are convicted felons?[/h]
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By all means, tell us... how many current Senators and Congressmen are convicted felons?

[h=1] I did not realize that there have been that many congress persons that have been charged and or convicted. I am appalled. I wish others were more concerned with this than I suspect really cares. I found 43, now it that not what the Senate needs to block a bill? Alot of these people came back and became lobbyist. Is that allowed should it be, they are too close to the action and can they be trusted....[/h][h=1]Do we really want someone back in Congress who served time for corruption charges, I do not think so. We have enough trouble in Congress without adding convicted felons back in. [/h][h=1]DOES YOUR CONGRESSPERSON HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD?[/h][h=1]Traficant misses key filing deadline to return to Congress[/h]
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No, a politician convicted of corruption/fraud should not be allowed to run for office of any level again. Period.
 
Rune said:
Idiot; 15 SUBCONTRACTORS (not employees) out of a half a million.

Do you have any idea how stupid you look here?
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So now you are back to referencing the number of employees convicted vs. the number as a whole?

Seriously, pick a standard.

Seriously... 15 for ONE organization. That is the number that is of concern.

By your standards, all criminals should be held unaccountable because as a percent of the population they are not that great a number.

Crime is crime Dune. Fraud is fraud. Had it been an isolated incident in one state, that would be one thing. But it was 15 convictions in multiple states, not to mention the embezzlement that occurred. Not an organization that should receive tax payer funding. You on the other hand are free to donate as much as you like to them.
 
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