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greatest meltdown ever....good one darla
dune is getting close to beating her though
dune is getting close to beating her though
So now you are back to referencing the number of employees convicted vs. the number as a whole?
Seriously, pick a standard.
Seriously... 15 for ONE organization. That is the number that is of concern.
By your standards, all criminals should be held unaccountable because as a percent of the population they are not that great a number.
Crime is crime Dune. Fraud is fraud. Had it been an isolated incident in one state, that would be one thing. But it was 15 convictions in multiple states, not to mention the embezzlement that occurred. Not an organization that should receive tax payer funding. You on the other hand are free to donate as much as you like to them.
In summary and to repeat... the 15 convicted of registration fraud are also criminals.
if there is fraud in their organization to the extent it was in ACORN, they should not receive tax payer funding.
I will ask you this, given that ACORN was so 'valuable'... why did the left not fund it from other sources? The federal funding was not the major source of revenue for them from what I have read. Why did other Dem/left groups/individuals not support it??? Why did Dems in DC vote to defund it? Why didn't Obama stand up to those that wanted to defund it?
Seriously... 15 for ONE organization. That is the number that is of concern.
And they were dealt with by the authorities. ACORN, however, was found innocent of any wrongdoing. Period.
ACORN did nothing wrong. Why withhold their tax payer funding?
Please tell me you're kidding. Why aren't you outraged over the manner in which the group was slandered and maligned by the likes of James O'Keefe and Breitbart with their lies? That's the scandal here. There was no choice.
Fortunately, other groups still exist, many former ACORN offices, doing the same good work.
Now. Can you tell me why O'Keefe isn't in prison?
The federal funding was not the major source of revenue for them from what I have read.
And they were dealt with by the authorities. ACORN, however, was found innocent of any wrongdoing. Period.
ACORN did nothing wrong. Why withhold their tax payer funding?
Please tell me you're kidding. Why aren't you outraged over the manner in which the group was slandered and maligned by the likes of James O'Keefe and Breitbart with their lies? That's the scandal here. There was no choice.
Fortunately, other groups still exist, many former ACORN offices, doing the same good work.
Now. Can you tell me why O'Keefe isn't in prison?
No, they were found innocent of voter fraud. The embezzlement alone was evidence of the corruption at the head of ACORN.
Why can you not answer the question? Instead you jump to Okeefe again. If ACORN was so valuable, why did the left not save it? Why did other left groups not fund the difference? ACORN supposedly collected $53 million from the Feds over 15+ years. That is not much. yet the left outside of DC howls about racism being behind the defunding.
Thank you.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/06/ag-acorn-embezzlement-totaled-m-m/
Yeah... no wrong doing...
Also... they were found innocent of not committing voter fraud. That was all they were found innocent of.
The embezzlement happened in 1999 at the NO office. It was not national and again, nobody was convicted.
Charges of racism? I'd like a link for that please.
As far as O'Keefe, I bring him up again because you don't understand: ACORN was convicted of nothing, O'Keefe was. That is the difference.
Why can't you defend O'Keefe and Breitbart? Because they were criminals. And I already said why ACORN was allowed to be dissolved.
Oh...but you don't know anything about O'Keefe because you've "not followed anything about him".
Are you really so clueless that you think you haven't fully exposed your hopeless bias?
I had to look up why he was convicted and what he did to get it...
As for following him, why would I? Once he was proven to have Michael Moore'ed the tape, he was as irrelevant to me as Michael Moore.
Link your source for their funding, please.
Budget
Until the controversies of 2008 and 2009, ACORN had an annual budget of approximately US$25 million, with approximately 10% of those funds coming from federal sources, a smaller figure from state sources, and the rest coming from supporters and membership. HUD estimates that ACORN received $42 million since the 2000 budget year while the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee estimates that ACORN received $53 million in federal funds since 1994.[2]
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/06/ag-acorn-embezzlement-totaled-m-m/
Yeah... no wrong doing...
Also... they were found innocent of not committing voter fraud. That was all they were found innocent of.
Oops. Too late. You have no credibility.
One couldn't possibly be interested in the veracity of the ACORN story WITHOUT following what happened to O'Keefe. You claim you 'haven't followed' him because you know goddamn well what he did and it lays waste to what you would prefer to believe.
I had to look up why he was convicted and what he did to get it...
As for following him, why would I? Once he was proven to have Michael Moore'ed the tape, he was as irrelevant to me as Michael Moore.
The Okeefe tapes have nothing to do with what I stated. The embezzlement happened long before O'Keefe... and the voter registration fraud convictions in 2010 also stemmed from incidents prior to Okeefe.
But do continue spouting your rage on the board. You obviously have nothing else to offer.
Was Rathke convicted? No.
Was ACORN convicted? No. If I remember correctly, at least three federal judges cleared them of any wrongdoing.
Was O'Keefe convicted? Yes. He should have been convicted more...
Until you come up with a conviction of ACORN, not one of it's volunteers, this conversation is over.
Do you think anything you write about this has any credibility, now that you've exposed your hopeless bias? Bleating bs about how you 'haven't followed' O'Keefe? Your crap opinion on ACORN is without merit. Thank yourself.