Florida plans to become first state to eliminate all childhood vaccine mandates

[Scott]

This seems rather akin to you equating abortion with contract killings.

I did not equate the two.

Then I misunderstood you. I also don't understand why you would bring up contract killings when we had been talking about abortions.

I defined contract killings and asked you why you support them.

As I've said, I'm rather leary of people definining terms that have a rather set meaning for most people. The set meaning for contract killings is the one the one on Wikipedia, which can be seen here:

Contract killing - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[domer76]

I don’t think more children are getting it, I just think they are able to diagnose it as you have stated.

I have a nephew who is autistic. He started college this year.

I hope the best for your son.

Except they don’t “get” autism. It’s not a disease

 

[Phantasmal]

Except they don’t “get” autism. It’s not a disease

Just repeating their words.

 

[Scott]

I think everyone in this forum would agree that they prefer rational, adult discussion.

Nope. There is a distinct group of cowardly leftist denizens who are only here to sling poo.

I haven't seen any evidence of this.

The problem is in your first sentence- that is, when insults start to fly, you join right in.

The sad truth is that some posters only understand bullying and cowardice. As much as you might prefer rational conversation, that is simply not an option with them.

Therein lies the problem.

Well, I think I've made some progress with my efforts to avoid insulting posters and their beliefs as much as I'm capable of. What I mean is that I -think- that, generally speaking, I think posters tend to refrain from insulting me and my beliefs, and that's considering that at least one of my beliefs, such as my belief that biological viruses don't exist, is apparently not shared by anyone else in this forum.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Maybe? I've heard various things about the immune system. But if I had to describe the most common culprit in virtually any disease, I think it'd be toxins coming from what we eat, drink and breathe. Perhaps malnutrition would be second place and stress might be third. Also, once the body is sufficiently damaged, it can be hard if not impossible to get it working properly again.

I am paying attention to discussion about poor gut health and its interaction with the immune system....to include auto immune problems.

 

[domer76]

I haven't seen any evidence of this.



Well, I think I've made some progress with my efforts to avoid insulting posters and their beliefs as much as I'm capable of. What I mean is that I -think- that, generally speaking, I think posters tend to refrain from insulting me and my beliefs, and that's considering that at least one of my beliefs, such as my belief that biological viruses don't exist, is apparently not shared by anyone else in this forum.

Nor any reputable scientist

 

[Lionfish]

Seriously. I don't have a clue how to even access Netflix or any of the various services we have. The TV up here is not a smart TV so it comes witht a dozen remotes and connected peripherals, most of which I'm clueless about. That's Mr. Owl's job to know these things. lol The downstairs TV though is a lot easier as it's a smart one. Smarter than me. lol

I left my phone laying on the couch once and my g-son picked it up, called up the apps, and started playing a game I didn't even know I had. He was four. I think his eccentricities are really interesting. He cannot stand to have any type of liquid on his clothing. He is very sensitive to loud noises and discordant singing. (He tells me to stop when I try to sing as I'm woefully tone deaf.) He is musically gifted like his parents and can play simple songs on their keyboard.

He'll only eat certain foods and abhors others. He needs extra time when transitioning from one task to another. He had a full blown meltdown at the beach last month when he sat on the sand to watch a crab and got his shorts wet. Thankfully my youngest daughter, who is a special ed teacher who deals with this every day, was able to swaddle him in a towel and gently restrain him till he cried it out and we could get dry pants on him. Later on he sat in a puddle to play with the sand and build a little city and thought nothing of it.. Spectrum kids are a challenge!

 

[Lionfish]

I know you jest but I have heard of very ill chickenpox patients being diverted from hospitals because the disease is so deadly to cancer patients and those with poor immune systems -- which is one reason why they might be hospitalized.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

As for Crazy Kennedy's claim that Tylenol causes autism, there was a sibling controlled 2024 study of over 2 million children in Sweden that could not find a link between Acetaminophen and autism... It does not get much more definite than that.

MAGAts are ignorant, if not downright stupid, often liars and all support a pedophile for President.

 

[Scott]

Dictionaries certainly aren't -identical-,

... and that is all you need to know.

I disagree. Yes, different dictionaries certainly aren't identical, but in general, they are all pretty similar. That doesn't mean that it isn't interesting to see how they differ and why, but the differences are small enough that, generally speaking, people could still have decent conversations even if they each defined words only from different dictionaries.

and we could certainly agree that some dictionaries have definitions for words that others don't.

Well, we might agree that some dictionaries explain the usage of some words that others don't.

Perhaps. I'd need an example to be sure.

I'd say that different dictionaries are generally pretty similar to each other. As far as I'm concerned, this a very good thing.

A definition is a definition, and there cannot be two for the same thing. You are talking about a description and not a definition.

Perhaps if you gave me an example of what you're trying to convey to me, because I'm not really sure at this point.

The problem with coming up with one's own definition of words is that it can soon become impossible to hold a decent conversation with someone on a given subject because there isn't even agreement on what certain words mean.

Exactly! Yet this is what you claim dictionaries somehow get to do, and you absurdly assert that words should somehow be discussed under multiple definitions, rendering impossible a decent conversation.

I didn't assert that. My assertion is that when having discussions, there needs to be an agreement as to how the participants in said discussion are defining a given word.

On the other hand, I presented you with a very clear definition of "contract killing" for discussion purposes. That's how it's supposed to work.

You apparently switched the subject of the discussion- the discussion had been about abortions.

 

[Scott]

Science isn't a research, study, documentary, article, or Youtube.

Here's the first definition of science from The American Heritage Dictionary, 5th Edition:
**
The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.
**

Do you agree with that definition for the purpose of our discussion?

 

[Scott]

Agreed, humanity can be pretty messy sometimes. But I do think that by -trying- to reign in our darker impulses, we can be rewarded by getting treated better in return.

Agreed. It's a personal journey. If you work on that for yourself, good. If your aim is to impose it upon others, not so much.

Agreed. I used to think it was a good thing when moderators had a fair amount of rules, including rules on insulting others, but due to my experiences in getting warnings and even bans from other forums, generally not for insulting anyone but for other technicalities, I've come to the conclusion that moderation of this kind would only be good if moderators didn't have political biases. I've come to think that it's all but impossible and so the best approach is the one employed here, which is to only moderate extreme posts and leave the rest alone, with a section like Above Plain Politics for those who prefer more moderation. I -do- prefer more moderation and I haven't gotten any warnings here, which I think is great, but I've come to the conclusion that there just isn't enough traffic in Above Plain Politics to make it worth my time there for most subjects.

 

[Scott]

I certainly agree that the Cov2 virus doesn't kill. We may differ on why that is- I believe it's because they don't exist, you believe it's because it's not strong enough to do so, but I think we're pretty close here. Certainly miles away from people who believe that the Cov2 virus was something that killed millions.

You believe there is a vast, wide conspiracy about COVID? Fascinating. Please tell me more.

No, I just believe that most people believe things that aren't true. I think the best analogy are most religions. I think most would agree that, at best, only 1 religion can be totally correct. All the others have to be at least -partially- mistaken. Now, that doesn't mean that there aren't some people in a given religion that only -pretend- to believe everything that their religion promulgates, just that most people in said religion probably do.

 

[Scott]

Maybe? I've heard various things about the immune system. But if I had to describe the most common culprit in virtually any disease, I think it'd be toxins coming from what we eat, drink and breathe. Perhaps malnutrition would be second place and stress might be third. Also, once the body is sufficiently damaged, it can be hard if not impossible to get it working properly again.

I am paying attention to discussion about poor gut health and its interaction with the immune system....to include auto immune problems.

I've been paying attention to the same type of thing recently . So much to know though. I've had health issues since I was 11, actually in some ways, even earlier, so it's something that concerns me a lot.

 

[Scott]

Well, I think I've made some progress with my efforts to avoid insulting posters and their beliefs as much as I'm capable of. What I mean is that I -think- that, generally speaking, I think posters tend to refrain from insulting me and my beliefs, and that's considering that at least one of my beliefs, such as my belief that biological viruses don't exist, is apparently not shared by anyone else in this forum.

Nor any reputable scientist

That depends on how you define reputable. I think that Mike Stone is well versed in the scientific method and has provided a lot of evidence strongly suggesting that biological viruses simply don't exist. For anyone who'd like to know more about how I came to believe biological viruses don't exist, feel free to take a look at either (or both) of the following threads:

APP - Thread 'Do biological viruses actually exist?'

Mar 1, 2025

I made a thread that basically had the same premise as this one back in 2022. It had a good run, but then petered off for a long time. It's recently gotten a bit of a renewal, but I've come to believe that this is a subject that will get a lot of people to engage in personal attacks. I was hoping to avoid that this time around and this is the reason that I'm remaking this thread here. Note that I am not saying that the electron microscope photographs that virologists present aren't real microbes, just that they don't actually have the properties that would fit the definition of biological...

• Scott
• biological viruses evidence that biological viruses exist viruses
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• Forum: Above Plain Politics Forum

Thread 'Settling the Biological Virus Debate'

Dec 23, 2022

For a while, I've been debating with a certain someone in another thread regarding whether or not biological viruses are real. The thread has gotten rather large and we've been talking about several things in it. I think it makes more sense to separate the discussion on viruses into a thread of its own and will attempt to respond to posts on the subject in other thread here as well.

For those who are unfamiliar with the group of doctors and other professionals who have come to the conclusion that biological viruses aren't real, I invite you to take a look at the following 2 page statement...

• Scott
• Replies: 1,325
• Forum: General Politics Forum

Thread 'The "Virus" Concept | Viroliegy Newsletter'

Aug 22, 2023

I started a thread at the end of last year called "Settling the Virus Debate". Some reading this may be familiar with it. If not and you're interested, it's here:

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?197952-Settling-the-Biological-Virus-Debate

It petered out a few months ago. It may be that this subject is just one that no one else here wants to discuss anymore, but I thought that perhaps if I started a thread on the origins of the concept of a virus, which some may note rings eerily similar to the parable of the Emperor's New Clothes, this might get some...

• Scott
• Replies: 12
• Forum: General Politics Forum

 

[domer76]

That depends on how you define reputable. I think that Mike Stone is well versed in the scientific method and has provided a lot of evidence strongly suggesting that biological viruses simply don't exist. For anyone who'd like to know more about how I came to believe biological viruses don't exist, feel free to take a look at either (or both) of the following threads:

APP - Thread 'Do biological viruses actually exist?'

Mar 1, 2025

I made a thread that basically had the same premise as this one back in 2022. It had a good run, but then petered off for a long time. It's recently gotten a bit of a renewal, but I've come to believe that this is a subject that will get a lot of people to engage in personal attacks. I was hoping to avoid that this time around and this is the reason that I'm remaking this thread here. Note that I am not saying that the electron microscope photographs that virologists present aren't real microbes, just that they don't actually have the properties that would fit the definition of biological...

• Scott
• biological viruses evidence that biological viruses exist viruses
• Replies: 686
• Forum: Above Plain Politics Forum

Thread 'Settling the Biological Virus Debate'

Dec 23, 2022

For a while, I've been debating with a certain someone in another thread regarding whether or not biological viruses are real. The thread has gotten rather large and we've been talking about several things in it. I think it makes more sense to separate the discussion on viruses into a thread of its own and will attempt to respond to posts on the subject in other thread here as well.

For those who are unfamiliar with the group of doctors and other professionals who have come to the conclusion that biological viruses aren't real, I invite you to take a look at the following 2 page statement...

• Scott
• Replies: 1,325
• Forum: General Politics Forum

Thread 'The "Virus" Concept | Viroliegy Newsletter'

Aug 22, 2023

I started a thread at the end of last year called "Settling the Virus Debate". Some reading this may be familiar with it. If not and you're interested, it's here:

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?197952-Settling-the-Biological-Virus-Debate

It petered out a few months ago. It may be that this subject is just one that no one else here wants to discuss anymore, but I thought that perhaps if I started a thread on the origins of the concept of a virus, which some may note rings eerily similar to the parable of the Emperor's New Clothes, this might get some...

• Scott
• Replies: 12
• Forum: General Politics Forum

Don’t know who any Mike Stone would be. No doubt, as much a quack as the ex-doctor you cited

 

[Hawkeye10]

I've been paying attention to the same type of thing recently . So much to know though. I've had health issues since I was 11, actually in some ways, even earlier, so it's something that concerns me a lot.

The experts completely ignored gut health till just a few years ago.......what they have found since is very interesting.

 

[Hawkeye10]

I've been paying attention to the same type of thing recently . So much to know though. I've had health issues since I was 11, actually in some ways, even earlier, so it's something that concerns me a lot.

I have a personal story as well....about 6 years ago my wife was diagnosed with Crohn's....which is common with those who served in Iraq, almost certainly because of the burn pits.....five years later they said scratch that......it is MS which they have traced back to 1997 (before Iraq) because of the layers of scar tissue in her brain and spine, and stuff in her medical records.

This is a tie between the immune system and the gut.

 

[IBDaMann]

Certainly miles away from people who believe that the Cov2 virus was something that killed millions.

Exactly. The COVID hoax was a scam all-around.

Question for Clarity: If I have you look into a transmission electron microscope that shows you this image:

What do you say in response?

1) There's nothing there. I don't see anything.
2) I see what you're talking about, but those aren't viruses.
3) I see a lot of growth's; those were produced by the body. They are not pathogens.
4) I see a lot of molecular structures, they are not alive, they should be analyzed chemically, nothing more.
5) something else ...

 

[IBDaMann]

Of course you don’t believe the virus exists. You’re a fucking idiot.

You say that because you know what true geniuth ith.