Florida Gov. DeSantis proves the naysayers wrong

Sailor said:
Trump does not run NYC or NY.
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I was not aware that New York State had left the union. When did that happen?

This all reminds me of when trump tried to blame the President of Puerto Rico for the failures, without realizing he is the president of puerto rico... Oops. Well trump is also the president of new york.
 
Questions are being raised about Florida’s coronavirus death toll reporting after a man who died in a motorcycle accident was listed in the COVID-19 death count.

Dr. Raul Pino, an Orange County health officer, told Fox 35 News that a supposed coronavirus victim in his 20s died in a motorcycle crash and didn't have any underlying conditions.

“I don’t think so. I have to double-check,” Pino said when asked if the fatality had been removed from the death count. “We were arguing, discussing, or trying to argue with the state. Not because of the numbers ⁠— it’s 100 … it doesn’t make any difference if it's 99 ⁠— but the fact that the individual didn’t die from COVID-19 … died in the crash. But you could actually argue that it could have been the COVID-19 that caused him to crash. I don’t know the conclusion of that one.”

“More questions about Florida’s #COVID19 data tonight after state health official tells us a person who died in a motorcycle accident was added to the state’s coronavirus death count,” Fox 35 reporter Danielle Lama tweeted in response to the news.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-motorcycle-crash-listed-as-coronavirus-death

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This Pino guy (a health official, yet) is a real pip! So what? It's only one! Who knows? Maybe the Rona made him crash!!!
You can't make this crappola up!:palm:
 
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Investigation shows errors in Florida virus positivity report: Hospitals say actual rate much lower
by Andrew Mark Miller, Social Media Producer
| July 14, 2020 04:17 PM
| Updated Jul 17, 2020, 07:42 AM


An investigation into a state-issued daily coronavirus testing report in Florida shows possible errors in positivity rates, with two hospitals confirming the data are inaccurate.

The investigation into data from the Florida Department of Health, conducted by Fox 35 News, showed labs reporting a 100% positivity rate in testing, meaning that every single person who was tested was positive for the coronavirus. Several other labs had high positivity rates upward of 80%.

One hospital, Orlando Health, responded to the investigation and confirmed that the report is inaccurate, saying that its positivity rate was 9.4% and not 98% as the report stated.

Another hospital, Orlando Veteran’s Medical Center, is listed in the report with a positivity rate of 76%, but the hospital says the actual number was 6%.

The investigation’s results come a week after a physician in Bay County, Florida, questioned the belief that the positivity rate in the county was at almost 22%.

“We’ve got what’s called a denominator problem — the denominator is the number of negative cases, or negative tests, or total tests, and the numerator is positive tests,” Dr. Jon Ward told WJHG after analyzing the reported positive and negative tests. “I looked at it, and [PanCare] showed 280 positives and zero negatives, and that just came up really fishy because I knew a lot of people who had gone to PanCare and tested negative,” said Ward.

The Florida Department of Health announced 12,624 new positive cases, but coronavirus deaths in the states have continued to “drop and drop and drop,” according to Dr. Charles Lockwood, who appeared on CNN to discuss the situation in Florida. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who has faced criticism from the Left over the uptick in positive cases, shared the interview on his Twitter account.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282743622312566785

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...y-report-hospitals-say-actual-rate-much-lower
 
'Nothing from the CDC that I can trust': Birx reportedly casts doubt on coronavirus figures
by Dominick Mastrangelo, Social Media Producer |
| May 11, 2020 12:11 PM

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Dr. Deborah Birx, a leading member of the White House task force combating the coronavirus, and the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reportedly clashed last week over the veracity of data the center collects regarding cases and deaths.

During what sources characterized as a "heated discussion," according to to the Washington Post, Birx expressed frustration with Dr. Robert Redfield that the CDC was using an outdated system to track data that might be inflating figures, such as the mortality rate, by as much as 25%.

“There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust," Birx reportedly said.

Two senior administration officials told the Washington Post that the exchange was not heated.

The CDC has reported more than 1.3 million cases of the virus and nearly 79,000 deaths as of Sunday. That included more than 1,700 new cases from the day before.

The Washington Post reported that Redfield agreed his agency was "in need of a digital upgrade."

The alleged spat between two of the nation's leading health officials comes as states continue to grapple with how to classify deaths amid the pandemic.

The federal guidance to hospitals specified: “COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to the death.”

President Trump has expressed skepticism regarding coronavirus numbers reported by states and the federal government.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...reportedly-casts-doubt-on-coronavirus-figures
 
So, actually all this new coding began back in March. It was only referenced by the ECDC with a
more official announcement in mid-April.

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COVID-19 Alert No.
2March 24, 2020

New ICD code introduced for COVID-19 deaths. This email is to alert you that a newly-introduced ICD code has been implemented
to accurately capture mortality data for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) on death certificates.

Please read carefully and forward this email to the state statistical staff in your office who are involved in the preparation of mortality data, as well
as others who may receive questions when the data are released.

What is the new code? The new ICD code for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) is U07.1, and below is how it will appear in formal tabular list format.
U07.1 COVID-19
Excludes:
Coronavirus infection, unspecified site (B34.2)
Severe acute respiratory syndrome [SARS], unspecified (U04.9)
The WHO has provided a second code, U07.2, for clinical or epidemiological diagnosis of COVID-19 where a laboratory confirmation is inconclusive or not available. Because laboratory test results are not typically reported on death certificates in the U.S., NCHS is not planning to implement U07.2 for mortality statistics.

When will it be implemented? Immediately.

Will COVID-19 be the underlying cause? The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate. However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID-19 being the underlying cause more often than not.

What happens if certifiers report terms other than the suggested terms? If a death certificate reports coronavirus without identifying a specific strain or explicitly specifying that it is not COVID-19, NCHS will ask the states to follow up to verify whether or not the coronavirus was COVID-19. As long as the phrase used indicates the 2019 coronavirus strain, NCHS expects to assign the new code. However, it is preferable and more straightforward for certifiers to use the standard terminology (COVID-19).

What happens if the terms reported on the death certificate indicate uncertainty? If the death certificate reports terms such as “probable COVID-19” or “likely COVID-19,” these terms would be assigned the new ICD code. It Is not likely that NCHS will follow up on these cases. If “pending COVID-19 testing” is reported on the death certificate, this would be considered a pending record. In this scenario, NCHS would expect to receive an updated record, since the code will likely result in R99. In this case, NCHS will ask the states to follow up to verify if test results confirmed that the decedent had COVID-19.

Do I need to make any changes at the jurisdictional level to accommodate the new ICD code? Not necessarily, but you will want to confirm that your systems and programs do not behave as if U07.1 is an unknown code.

Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test? COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc. If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II. (See attached Guidance for Certifying COVID-19 Deaths)

Steven Schwartz, PhD
Director – Division of Vital Statistics
National Center for Health Statistics
3311 Toledo Rd | Hyattsville, MD 20782

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/...w-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

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Just call it all Covid! Gotta get those numbers up boys! :palm:
 
There were, again, over 10,000 cases in Florida in the last day. The good news for me is that the mask mandate in Duval county (Jacksonville) may be showing signs of slowing things down. We've gone from 700+ cases a day to only 244 today, which is the lowest in a month. I'm hoping it's a trend. The bars are closed here now, many of the restaurants will shut down for a day or two for cleaning, and compliance in grocery stores and other stores is very good. Of course if Trump an DeSantis have their way, they'll hold a superspreader event here in August. I'm willing to wager that they'll find their way around the mask mandate and fuck the rest of us over. Still hoping they call the damn thing off.
 
Concart said:
There were, again, over 10,000 cases in Florida in the last day. The good news for me is that the mask mandate in Duval county (Jacksonville) may be showing signs of slowing things down. We've gone from 700+ cases a day to only 244 today, which is the lowest in a month. I'm hoping it's a trend. The bars are closed here now, many of the restaurants will shut down for a day or two for cleaning, and compliance in grocery stores and other stores is very good. Of course if Trump an DeSantis have their way, they'll hold a superspreader event here in August. I'm willing to wager that they'll find their way around the mask mandate and fuck the rest of us over. Still hoping they call the damn thing off.
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Suspected, probable or confirmed by lab work...or by motorcycle crash?
 
Walt said:
I was not aware that New York State had left the union. When did that happen?

This all reminds me of when trump tried to blame the President of Puerto Rico for the failures, without realizing he is the president of puerto rico... Oops. Well trump is also the president of new york.
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Oh. So if Trump sends in troops the straighten out shit in NYC and NY, you have no problem with it all of the sudden. Got it.
 
Stretch said:
It's because our CDC misrepresented the stats.

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I don't understand why there are so many people who do not get that the totals are inflated because
of the deliberate combining of confirmed and probable case totals which are reported as allllllllll confirmed.
I don't get it. If they have 2 probable cases and 2 confirmed cases......the lying manipulators report that there are 4 confirmed cases!!!

Plus, if you get tested 10 times with a negative result...each time it's reported as 10 cases!!!!
Plus, daily new cases include cases of Florida residents and nonresidents, and hospitalizations include residents and nonresidents.
Plus, hospitalized counts include anyone who was hospitalized at some point during their illness. It does not reflect the number of people currently hospitalized.
Source: Florida Department of Health.

Here’s how state officials say the positivity rate is calculated:

“We only count the positive test once,” Alina Alonso, the head of the Palm Beach County Department of Health, told Palm Beach County commissioners on July 7.
“We do count the negative tests more than once because there are reasons for people testing negative and getting multiple test results. But the positives by name are only captured once,” she said.
That means that the same person with multiple negative tests can be counted several times.

That’s fine for the day-to-day positivity rate, said Jason Salemi, associate professor of epidemiology at the University of South Florida’s College of Public Health, but a problem arises when you try to calculate an average over a series of days from the daily statistic.

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“If the same people are testing negative and getting reported over and over … well, the results could be quite different from a true person-level analysis,” he said.
The number of people being retested on a daily basis is potentially very large, Lacan said.
(Olivier Lacan, a volunteer for the COVID Tracking Project)

Experts say the state’s decision July 1 to include Antigen tests in their count made the situation even more murky.
“Do not combine those cases, just don’t,” said Hanage, the associate professor at Harvard. “That’s lunatic. If that’s the case in Florida, people should be up in arms.”
(Dr. William Hanage, associate professor of epidemiology at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health.)

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Persons tested: includes PCR and antigen test results
http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/state_reports_latest.pdf

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Deaths...from Covid or with Covid???

By week and by state...
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm

COVID-19 deaths are identified using a new ICD–10 code. When COVID-19 is reported as a cause of death – or when it is listed as a “probable” or “presumed” cause — the death is coded as U07.1. This can include cases with or without laboratory confirmation.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm

^^^^^Just I posted months ago the CDC still admits that whether it is a CAUSE orrrrrr PROBABLE/PRESUMED it's all counted as a Covid-19 death!^^^^^
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You really are dumb. Multiple negative tests are counted as multiple negative cases, not multiple positives.

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Walt said:
I was not aware that New York State had left the union. When did that happen?

This all reminds me of when trump tried to blame the President of Puerto Rico for the failures, without realizing he is the president of puerto rico... Oops. Well trump is also the president of new york.
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I take it you failed American Government. Try at least reading the Constitution. There is no "president of new york[sic]".

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rjhenn said:
You really are dumb. Multiple negative tests are counted as multiple negative cases, not multiple positives.

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But less attention is paid to the positivity rate; and if they are counting positive cases instead of positive people—-the numbers are artificially inflated and essentially worthless.

And if that is going on, it neatly explains why the death numbers are so flat relative to the case numbers. The ‘wait two weeks’ thing is over. That doesn’t work any more. Something is going on that is keeping the death rate flat.
 
Darth Omar said:
But less attention is paid to the positivity rate; and if they are counting positive cases instead of positive people—-the numbers are artificially inflated and essentially worthless.

And if that is going on, it neatly explains why the death numbers are so flat relative to the case numbers. The ‘wait two weeks’ thing is over. That doesn’t work any more. Something is going on that is keeping the death rate flat.
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:good4u:

“If the same people are testing negative and getting reported over and over … well, the results could be quite different from a true person-level analysis,” he said.
The number of people being retested on a daily basis is potentially very large, Lacan said.
(Olivier Lacan, a volunteer for the COVID Tracking Project)

A whollllllllllllle lot of people are tested more than one time, some weekly just to make sure they keep coming up negative. And, allllllllllll those
tests are rolled into the totals over and over as ICD-10 Covid coded CASES! The media will never tell the public this about the totals...whether
the numbers represent tests, suspected, probable or confirmed. I really do hate the CDC. This isn't the first time they've basically lied
(either by commission or omission) for a certain "agenda".
 
Stretch said:
The Guv had it right.
Trump had it right.
Birx had it right.
Fake media and left got it wrong. All those predictions of gloom and doom for Florida seniors, especially in
The Villages.....no epidemic there. Our Guv put seniors first to protect them as opposed to NY where they
were offered up to be sacrificed. Now Mario 'Mengele' Cuomo blames the CDC guidelines.
People flocked here in droves to get out of the dark interior of their
virus-breeding houses and out into the fresh air and sunshine.
All those "smart college educated" NE lefties couldn't figure that out...it was too simple.

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Governor Ron DeSantis blasts reporters over fearmongering criticism of his state while VP Pence visits
Posted: May 20, 2020

Updated: 5:22 PM

KUSI Newsroom

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — Vice President Mike Pence visited central Florida to meet with tourism officials Wednesday as the region’s biggest tourist destination — Walt Disney World — began reopening a shopping and entertainment complex.

During the visit, Vice President Pence and Governor Ron DeSantis answered questions from reporters about the reopening of the state.

Governor DeSantis didn’t hold back, blasting them for their fearmongering reporting and overall criticism of his state. DeSantis pointed out that Florida has the lowest death rate in the region, and generally lower than anywhere else.
https://www.kusi.com/governor-ron-d...criticism-of-his-state-while-vp-pence-visits/

Gov. Ron DeSantis’s full answer is below:



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dont you feel like a moron
 
Think about that: FL is a large state and they are *just now* getting in the neighborhood of Cuomo’s nursing home brain fart. Not NY’s total—just the fraction Cuomo is personally responsible for.
 
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Dang, that’s almost up to Cuomo’s nursing home numbers.

Getting there.
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Yes, it was a tragic mistake wasn’t it and you thought it was a hoax only 61 deaths, remember. Cuomo admitted his mistake and he probably lost sleep over it. I hope DeSantis isn’t sleeping well.
 
Phantasmal said:
Yes, it was a tragic mistake wasn’t it and you thought it was a hoax only 61 deaths, remember. Cuomo admitted his mistake and he probably lost sleep over it. I hope DeSantis isn’t sleeping well.
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Yes, admitting mistakes demonstrates character and integrity. Lying, obfuscating, making up excuses and changing the subject shows exactly the opposite. Just sayin'

The US will again have the largest daily death total since the end of May. Deaths are on the rise, and we have 71,000 more cases. An utter failure by Trump, DeSantis, and the rest of the Red State Governors who refused to listen to the experts.
 
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