facing this countrys real history of the treatment of blacks

evince said:
they said OVER 300 people were dead huh.

3000 is over 300.

do you want them to exsume the place and do a real count?
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I thought you were going to exume [sic] and count. Until then, the number is 300. I will ship you a shovel.
 
the red cross did not say no more than 300 died.

they said MORE than 300 died huh?


3000 is more than 300.

Your a fucking lying racist asshole
 
evince said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwood,_Tulsa,_Oklahoma#Post_riot




The riot began because of the alleged assault of a white elevator operator, 17-year old Sarah Page, by an African American shoeshiner, 19-year old Dick Rowland (the case against Mr. Rowland was eventually dismissed). The Tulsa Tribune got word of the incident and chose to publish the story in the paper on May 31, 1921. Shortly after the newspaper article surfaced, there was news that a white lynch mob was going to take matters into its own hands and kill Dick Rowland.[6]

A group of armed white men congregated outside the jail and, subsequently, a group of African American men joined the assembled crowd in order to protect Dick Rowland. There was an argument in which a white man tried to take a gun from a black man, and the gun fired a bullet up into the sky. This incident promoted many others to fire their guns, and the violence erupted on the evening of May 31, 1921. Whites flooded into the Greenwood district and destroyed the businesses and homes of African American residents. No one was exempt from the violence of the white mobs; men, women, and even children were killed by the mobs.

Troops were eventually deployed on the afternoon of June 1, but by that time there was not much left of the once thriving Greenwood district. Over 600 successful businesses were lost. Among these were 21 churches, 21 restaurants, 30 grocery stores and two movie theaters, plus a hospital, a bank, a post office, libraries, schools, law offices, a half-dozen private airplanes and even a bus system. Note—It was a time when the entire state of Oklahoma had only two airports, yet six blacks owned their own planes.

It was suspected by many blacks that the entire thing was planned because many white men, women and children stood on the borders of the city and watched as blacks were shot, burned and lynched. In addition, some of the black-owned airplanes were stolen by the white mob and used to throw cocktail bombs & dynamite sticks from the sky.[11] Property damage totaled $1.5 million (1921).[11] Although the official death toll claimed that 26 blacks and 13 whites died during the fighting, most estimates are considerably higher. At the time of the riot, the American Red Cross estimated that over 300 persons were killed. The Red Cross also listed 8,624 persons in need of assistance, in excess of 1,000 homes and businesses destroyed, and the delivery of several stillborn infants.[6]
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fucking racist
 
Explain to us all how wanting the country to know the real history of how we treated our black fellow citizens is a racist point of view?
 
evince said:
NOPE its MORE than 300 and your fucking lying asshole to minimize a human slaughter
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I am not certain if you would be classified as a troll or a spammer; maybe both. But what is certain is you have an unquenchable disdain for facts, and a very pronounced libidinous fetish for speculation and misrepresentation of the facts.

And speaking of human slaughter, by my best estimate, you have slaughtered approximately three million of my brain cells reading your self-pleasuring spam.
 
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cawacko said:
Lol, really?? You are the official determiner of who is and who isn't racist? Did someone of authority give you that power?
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I guess Desh has forgotten that she's admitted to the act of spitting in the face of a Black man and then accusing him of being a drug dealer.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
I guess Desh has forgotten that she's admitted to the act of spitting in the face of a Black man and then accusing him of being a drug dealer.
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Ironically enough I actually give Desh credit for that. We hear too many stories of good people and their children being forced to stay inside their homes out of fear of violence caused by drug dealers who terrorize the neighborhood. I have respect for those who are willing to confront those dealers and tell them to get out of their neighborhood.
 
cawacko said:
Ironically enough I actually give Desh credit for that. We hear too many stories of good people and their children being forced to stay inside their homes out of fear of violence caused by drug dealers who terrorize the neighborhood. I have respect for those who are willing to confront those dealers and tell them to get out of their neighborhood.
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After listening to Desh crap flood as many threads as she has and after reading her long list of crap flooding, isn't it a bigger possibility that there was no drug dealer and Desh just spit in the face of someone she imagined was dealing drugs?
She probably saw the Black man and automatically assumed he was dealing drugs.
 
Sez the guy who's yet to contribute a meaningful thread on this forum and who's only intent is to flame.

Did you appeal your suspension for using work computers to post on a message board yet?
 
evince said:
If you claim to honor Mandela then you should honor the path he set his people on that HEALED them enough to move forward.


Face the reality of what this country did to black people.


don't make excuses

don't get all defensive and say they should just forget the history


act like you want to come together.


stop laying in the road and screaming " I don't want to see a better country just run my speed bump ass over"


get on the bus we wont even make you sit in the back.


That is what Madela told his people of all colors.

they got on the bus
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Many crap posts and you think that is 'honoring?' You lose.
 
evince said:
Do you know what Mandela said about facing your real history?
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http://www.okwonga.com/?p=869

Dear revisionists, Mandela will never, ever be your minstrel. Over the next few days you will try so, so hard to make him something he was not, and you will fail. You will try to smooth him, to sandblast him, to take away his Malcolm X. You will try to hide his anger from view. Right now, you are anxiously pacing the corridors of your condos and country estates, looking for the right words, the right tributes, the right-wing tributes. You will say that Mandela was not about race. You will say that Mandela was not about politics. You will say that Mandela was about nothing but one love, you will try to reduce him to a lilting reggae tune. “Let’s get together, and feel alright.” Yes, you will do that.


You will make out that apartheid was just some sort of evil mystical space disease that suddenly fell from the heavens and settled on all of us, had us all, black or white, in its thrall, until Mandela appeared from the ether to redeem us. You will try to make Mandela a Magic Negro and you will fail. You will say that Mandela stood above all for forgiveness whilst scuttling swiftly over the details of the perversity that he had the grace to forgive.


You will try to make out that apartheid was some horrid spontaneous historical aberration, and not the logical culmination of centuries of imperial arrogance. Yes, you will try that too. You will imply or audaciously state that its evils ended the day Mandela stepped out of jail. You will fold your hands and say the blacks have no-one to blame now but themselves.


Well, try hard as you like, and you’ll fail. Because Mandela was about politics and he was about race and he was about freedom and he was even about force, and he did what he felt he had to do and given the current economic inequality in South Africa he might even have died thinking he didn’t do nearly enough of it. And perhaps the greatest tragedy of Mandela’s life isn’t that he spent almost thirty years jailed by well-heeled racists who tried to shatter millions of spirits through breaking his soul, but that there weren’t or aren’t nearly enough people like him.


Because that’s South Africa now, a country long ago plunged headfirst so deep into the sewage of racial hatred that, for all Mandela’s efforts, it is still retching by the side of the swamp. Just imagine if Cape Town were London. Imagine seeing two million white people living in shacks and mud huts along the M25 as you make your way into the city, where most of the biggest houses and biggest jobs are occupied by a small, affluent to wealthy group of black people. There are no words for the resentment that would still simmer there.


Nelson Mandela was not a god, floating elegantly above us and saving us. He was utterly, thoroughly human, and he did all he did in spite of people like you. There is no need to name you because you know who you are, we know who you are, and you know we know that too. You didn’t break him in life, and you won’t shape him in death. You will try, wherever you are, and you will fail.

(for the moderation, here )- poet
 
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