Facing Actual Facts

Nose Picker said:
Most of us didn't like him before he was elected for those same reasons along with his malignant narcissism, bluster, shameless immorality, and fugly ass mug.
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Most of us recognized him for what he was from the get go. I can understand some people being fooled once. It happens. It’s the hangers-on that astound me. Pure, willful ignorance.
 
I Love America said:
And yet you believe Russia and Trump stole the election

LOL
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Actual fact, Russia used hackers to send emails to millions of American backing Trump and telling ridiculous lies against Hillary. They used Facebook to send millions of the same messages. .hillary had 3 million more votes. It is easy to see where Russia was the winning factor in the electoral college. They funnelled money to Trumps campaign. Some of it through the NRA. Russia was spending a million a month on Trumps campaign.
Are you saying you don't know about that? lol lol lol
 
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Nordberg said:
Actual fact, Russia used hackers to send emails to millions of American backing Trump and telling ridiculous lies against Hillary. They used Facebook to send millions of the same messages. .hillary had 3 million more votes. It is easy to see where Russia was the winning factor in the electoral college. They funnelled money to Trumps campaign. Some of it through the NRA. Russia was spending a million a month on Trumps campaign.
Are you saying you don't know about that? lol lol lol
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I know that you believe those lies

You believe we have the “cleanest” elections yet you believe this tripe? Don’t get the irony do you

Thanks for the laugh precious
 
Robo said:
Of course they can't! Not legally in federal elections, but if the voter rolls were actually ever investigated by honest nonpartisan folk, I sincerely believe American citizen voters would be shocked at the actual amount of illegal immigrants that are voting. It's hardly even a secret anymore especially in states and cities and precincts run by Democrats.

How and what would voting jeopardize?

I disagree friend. They're invested in American politics and in particular the Democrat party. The party of free everything.

I don't vote in America's corrupt duopoly elections. Intelligent voting isn't recognizable in America. Most voters can't even tell you who the Vise President is, let alone their congress critters. Most voters are totally unaware of everything political and subjected by rightwing and leftwing biased media partisan propaganda. They vote by the (democrat) or (republican) title connected with the names on their ballots.
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I realize that you, as well as most low IQ voters, believe in the Hitlerite philosophy that if you repeat lie long enough, and often enough that people will believe it. Well, the immoral, and uneducated, will. However, I have a hard time figuring out just how you can prove your lies since none of you ever do. You expect others to just believe your unproven bull shit just as you believe the unproven bull shit of your lord, and master, Trump.

But answer me this, do the wealthiest of Americans deserve the trillions given to them for free?
 
Old Trapper said:
Then it should be easy for you to do so again instead of doubling down on your lies.
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You know how to search the forum. Do it you lazy leftist fuck

Plus I know how you will play the game. Every instance that will be cited will be minimized.

I know you leftists better than you know yourselves

Now kindly get AIDS and die
 
I Love America said:
I know that you believe those lies

You believe we have the “cleanest” elections yet you believe this tripe? Don’t get the irony do you

Thanks for the laugh precious
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There isn't any. We have had clean elections for a long time. But now, Russia is interfering in elections. They got involved in the UK's Brexit, Germany's and France's too. They are launching a try to make democracies look bad. This is relatively new. So it does not impact the past ones. There was not much computer hacking in the 19th century. You really are operating with zeron information, aren't you?
 
Robo said:
Let's face some facts. Democrats love illegal immigrants because they vote Democrat. Republicans like illegal immigrants because they like cheap labor. That's why no immigration policy gets fixed and no wall gets financed in the swamp.

Finally there's a guy in the White House who actually wants to fix it, and that's why both Democrats and some Republicans hate him.
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He's not trying to actually "fix" anything, unless you mean "fix" in the sense of manipulate to one's own advantage. That he's always doing.


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Nordberg said:
There isn't any. We have had clean elections for a long time. But now, Russia is interfering in elections. They got involved in the UK's Brexit, Germany's and France's too. They are launching a try to make democracies look bad. This is relatively new. So it does not impact the past ones. There was not much computer hacking in the 19th century. You really are operating with zeron information, aren't you?
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Governments have interfered in elections for hundreds of years. Stop acting like it is a new phenomena.

I have no doubt Russia tried to meddle, bu I also know that they had ZERO impact on the outcome. I understand your need to believe that they did because the alternative is just too much for your little woke mind to bear
 
Robo said:
if the voter rolls were actually ever investigated by honest nonpartisan folk, I sincerely believe American citizen voters would be shocked at the actual amount of illegal immigrants that are voting.
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Jan 25, 2017
President Donald Trump on Wednesday called for a “major investigation” into voter fraud ... the main claim of fraud Trump has made over the past few months is that 3 million to 5 million illegal voters cast ballots in the election, which is his explanation for Hillary Clinton’s popular vote victory.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/01/trumps-voting-fraud-investigation-is-a-great-idea.html

Jan. 3, 2018
President Trump on Wednesday abruptly shut down a White House commission he had charged with investigating voter fraud ...
Mr. Trump did not acknowledge the commission’s inability to find evidence of fraud, but cast the closing as a result of continuing legal challenges.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/us/politics/trump-voter-fraud-commission.html


I don't know if they were "honest nonpartisan folk ", but Trump's commission could find no evidence of significant illegal voting.
So Trump shut them down and went back to tweeting about it.
 
I Love America said:
You know how to search the forum. Do it you lazy leftist fuck

Plus I know how you will play the game. Every instance that will be cited will be minimized.

I know you leftists better than you know yourselves

Now kindly get AIDS and die
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So, once again you want someone else to do your work for you. Truth is you lied, you know you lied, and your bull shit is again exposed you for the worthless cunt you are.

The only thing you know better then anyone else is how to jack off in front of your Trump altar.
 
Old Trapper said:
So, once again you want someone else to do your work for you. Truth is you lied, you know you lied, and your bull shit is again exposed you for the worthless cunt you are.

The only thing you know better then anyone else is how to jack off in front of your Trump altar.
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I never lie. It isn't in my DNA. I leave lying to leftists like you.

If you want to know bad enough go search for yourself.
 
domer76 said:
Naw. People don't like him because he's a pathologically lying, incompetent buffoon with ZERO ability to govern and is an embarrassment to the office of the President.
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Best economy in decades, lowest unemployment numbers in decades. lowest unemployment numbers for blacks and Latinos ever, better trade deals with Mexico, Canada, South Korea, the EU and now China talking new trade deals. NATO cheats shamed into ponying up their fair share of their GDP for NATO protection by this President.

Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
Created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since election.
Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.

Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.
95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.

Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
As a result of tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.

Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
Record number of regulations eliminated.
Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.

Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.


Expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.

Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.

Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.

Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.

Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
C

Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
We have begun BUILDING THE WALL

Pretty Damned GOOD For a lying incompetent buffoon with zero ability to govern DON'T YOU AGREE?????
 
I Love America said:
Governments have interfered in elections for hundreds of years. Stop acting like it is a new phenomena.

I have no doubt Russia tried to meddle, bu I also know that they had ZERO impact on the outcome. I understand your need to believe that they did because the alternative is just too much for your little woke mind to bear
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So I missed the discussion we had about whether it was the first time or not. Fact is no nation has weaponized election interference and used military hackers and computers to interfere like this. There has been nothing like this before and quit acting like this is business as usual. I understand Trumpians desperate need to try and normalize him and his presidency, but we can see and hear. There has never been a takeover like Trump has done. There has never been a president who saw everything in terms of how it efects him.
In the close election we had with Hillary having 3 million more votes, it is obvious to anyone with firing neurons, that Russoia made Trump president.
 
Nordberg said:
I knew you were stupid enough to make that response. Our elections are clean, very clean. They are checked thoroughly. Every single vote you make, who you voted for and all your information are known and recorded by the government. Most illegals who try to vote, believe that are qualfied to vote. They are not trying to sneak into the polls and make Hillary graet again.
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I've never been asked for ID , my name has never been on a ballot ..... How would they know ?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Illegals can't vote. Sorry. Whenever I see a thread title about facts started by someone on the Reichwing side, I know it will probably be fact-free. Yours is slightly different though; you stated that (R)s like cheap labor. Very true.

If you had said that (D)s have compassion for illegals and would like to see some sort of path to citizenship for some of them, then you'd be righteous.
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California DMV on Improperly Registering License Applicants, Including Aliens, to Vote: Oops! https://cis.org/Cadman/California-D...License-Applicants-Including-Aliens-Vote-Oops

2008 Presidential Election. A 2014 article published in the journal Electoral Studies found that "non-citizen voters likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform." The report also noted that "there is reason to believe non-citizen voting changed one state's Electoral College votes in 2008, delivering North Carolina to Obama." https://cis.org/Huennekens/Aliens-and-Voter-Fraud

The United States sends election monitors around the world to help discourage fraudulent balloting. But, here at home, it has largely turned a blind eye to the possibility that fraudulent voting by noncitizens could influence the outcome of an election. Our voter registration system is susceptible to abuse by noncitizens.

In addition, noncitizens and illegal aliens are counted when apportioning congressional districts and when allocating state electors under the Electoral College. This means noncitizens play a role in determining how many congressional representatives a state has and exert an indirect influence on presidential elections.

U.S. Elections Are Vulnerable to Noncitizen Voting Fraud
Mass immigration has had a significant effect on American electoral politics. Despite the fact that it is a crime for aliens to vote in federal elections, noncitizens and illegal aliens are counted when apportioning congressional districts. 1 This means that areas with large numbers of illegal alien residents gain additional representatives in Congress. http://www.fairus.org/issue/societal-impact/noncitizens-voting-violations-and-us-elections
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Very true, for the most part. I was shocked to discover just how much is logged when I worked as a volunteer for a U.S. congressional candidate a few years ago. They don't log who you voted for (impossible to know), but they do have your address, age, registered party if any, when and where you voted, where you are currently registered, and any elections you skipped.

Illegals try very hard not to be noticed or to get into situations where they will be asked for ID. They simply do not vote.... they can't. The Reichwing insistence on this lie is a way to explain why they lose elections.
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California DMV on Improperly Registering License Applicants, Including Aliens, to Vote: Oops! https://cis.org/Cadman/California-D...License-Applicants-Including-Aliens-Vote-Oops

2008 Presidential Election. A 2014 article published in the journal Electoral Studies found that "non-citizen voters likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform." The report also noted that "there is reason to believe non-citizen voting changed one state's Electoral College votes in 2008, delivering North Carolina to Obama." https://cis.org/Huennekens/Aliens-and-Voter-Fraud

The United States sends election monitors around the world to help discourage fraudulent balloting. But, here at home, it has largely turned a blind eye to the possibility that fraudulent voting by noncitizens could influence the outcome of an election. Our voter registration system is susceptible to abuse by noncitizens.

In addition, noncitizens and illegal aliens are counted when apportioning congressional districts and when allocating state electors under the Electoral College. This means noncitizens play a role in determining how many congressional representatives a state has and exert an indirect influence on presidential elections.

U.S. Elections Are Vulnerable to Noncitizen Voting Fraud
Mass immigration has had a significant effect on American electoral politics. Despite the fact that it is a crime for aliens to vote in federal elections, noncitizens and illegal aliens are counted when apportioning congressional districts. 1 This means that areas with large numbers of illegal alien residents gain additional representatives in Congress. http://www.fairus.org/issue/societal-impact/noncitizens-voting-violations-and-us-elections
 
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