http://news.yahoo.com/faa-warns-public-against-shooting-guns-drones-183617273.html
Proof the gun nuts are good for something.
Proof the gun nuts are good for something.
FAA warns public against shooting guns at drones
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Steelplate
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They shouldn't be shooting at drones if they are fiscal conservatives. Those things cost money.
Deer Trail resident Phillip Steel, 48, author of the proposal, said in an interview that he has 28 signatures on a petition — roughly 10 percent of the town's registered voters. Under Colorado law, that requires local officials to formally consider the proposal at a meeting next month, he said. Town officials would then have the option of adopting the ordinance or putting it on the ballot in an election this fall, he said.
The proposed ordinance is mostly a symbolic protest against small, civilian drones that are coming into use in the United States, Steel said. He acknowledged that it's unlikely there are any drones in use near Deer Trail.
"I don't want to live in a surveillance society. I don't feel like being in a virtual prison," Steel said. "This is a pre-emptive strike."
He dismissed the FAA's warning. "The FAA doesn't have the power to make a law," he said.
''The FAA doesn't have the power to make a law,"
This is my favorite part of this article, something few people seem to realize about "regulatory" agencies.
The proposed ordinance is mostly a symbolic protest against small, civilian drones that are coming into use in the United States, Steel said. He acknowledged that it's unlikely there are any drones in use near Deer Trail.
"I don't want to live in a surveillance society. I don't feel like being in a virtual prison," Steel said. "This is a pre-emptive strike."
He dismissed the FAA's warning. "The FAA doesn't have the power to make a law," he said.
''The FAA doesn't have the power to make a law,"
This is my favorite part of this article, something few people seem to realize about "regulatory" agencies.
Steelplate
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Civilian drones? As in privately owned, or non military?
Yes, civillian drones. Like the one the local perve has hovering outside your daughters bedroom window.
FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
That's one rich perv with incredible advance technology.
Not really. I have a friend with a drone mounted video camera and he is not excessively wealthy.
charver
You lookin' at my pint?
Exactly.
In my day we had to shin up a drainpipe under cover of darkness, often hanging from great heights by just one hand, risking life and limb. Tsk...the perverts of today don't know they're born.
That's what you get for being a city dweller. Us country boys had it much easier.
FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
If the FAA doesn't have the power to keep people from destroying aircraft, what powers could it be said to have? Do we have to pass a law enabling the police to go after each murderer?
Cancel 2016.11
Darla
LOL
Desh; considering that the vast majority of Americans are not criminals, why would we need so many police?
No good cam come from the use of drones.
tekkychick
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a) I think this town would be asking for a world of hurt if they had an ordinance that had them issuing licenses to shoot down drones
b) We like drones when they find a missing child; or when they review a farmer's crops to see if they need watering; or all the other things drones can do to be helpful
c) We dislike drones when they are used to spy on us - but do we dislike them when they spy on a meth dealer? or a pot grower who is growing plants in the national forest in an environmentally unsound way?
d) Wait till they are delivering advertising over your house - ice cream trucks are bad enough, wait till a drone is hovering over your house blasting out a McDonald's commercial. I dread commercial drones more than police drones actually.
e) They're here and will be used. Whether to spy on the latest celebrity or to go over your house to see if you have an illegal swimming pool or to help cops search steep slopes for missing people - they will be used.
I'm not thrilled with video cameras on every block. On the other hand, they helped us find the Boston Bombers faster.
I look forward to the first test case of someone shooting down a drone that is over their house. Will be interesting. I hear it's not really all that easy to shoot them down, though.
b) We like drones when they find a missing child; or when they review a farmer's crops to see if they need watering; or all the other things drones can do to be helpful
c) We dislike drones when they are used to spy on us - but do we dislike them when they spy on a meth dealer? or a pot grower who is growing plants in the national forest in an environmentally unsound way?
d) Wait till they are delivering advertising over your house - ice cream trucks are bad enough, wait till a drone is hovering over your house blasting out a McDonald's commercial. I dread commercial drones more than police drones actually.
e) They're here and will be used. Whether to spy on the latest celebrity or to go over your house to see if you have an illegal swimming pool or to help cops search steep slopes for missing people - they will be used.
I'm not thrilled with video cameras on every block. On the other hand, they helped us find the Boston Bombers faster.
I look forward to the first test case of someone shooting down a drone that is over their house. Will be interesting. I hear it's not really all that easy to shoot them down, though.
The article makes a point, something you failed to do.
We like morphine for it's painkilling effects, but we shouldn't use it every day.
Yes. We dislike them because the ALLEGED meth dealer and ALLEGED pot grower have an expectation of freedom from unreasonable search.
No good can come from the use of drones.
Imagine if you will, living in Pakistan.
What makes you think the same exact thing can't happen here.
I like you, I have liberal leanings as you do, but we must be realistic about what constitutes good, and what constitutes evil, with no doubt whatsoever, drones and their government use constitute evil.
Cancel 2016.2
The Almighty
Did you actually read what the license allows for? The use of shotguns on drones.
drones are being used by farmers now? link us up.
A plant is being grown in a non environmental way? link us up...
lmao... seriously? Where are you getting this stuff from?
Seriously... WTF are you smoking?
It is a symbolic measure. The odds of someone taking down a drone with a shotgun are pretty much between slim and none.
tekkychick
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Rune - I agree. Drones are hugely troublesome. But they will be used. Unless something pretty bizarre happens in this country, like progressives actually getting influence, they WILL be used. Just like video cameras on every corner. Not sure why you think I didn't have a point on the town issuing licenses- do you seriously think the feds will sit by if a townissues hunting licenses on drones? that town will be in a world of hurt.
I too dislike the idea of spying on meth dealers and pot farmers with drones. But how is that different from sending a sheriff out to check out an illegal grow someone reported? That's what the argument will be. And it's hard to counter. I don't like radar guns either or traffic light cameras. But lost those battles.
SF - the guy is gathering a petition to get the town to issue drone hunting licenses. Read the article yourself.
Re Drones and farmers - http://modernfarmer.com/2013/07/drones-drones-on-the-range/
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/jul/21/industry-hopes-farmers-will-embrace-drone-technolo/
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324763404578431031698188710.html
and EPA spying on farmers - http://news.yahoo.com/epa-drones-spy-farmers-nebraska-iowa-150411579.html
Drones and commercials - not yet. But seriously? you don't see that coming? Ads are on urinals... think companies will miss the chance to blare ads over the skies? Drones will be cheaper than hiring planes to pull banners.
Re drones being used for zoning compliance - local jurisdictions in various places are already asking for drones for various reasons. In a county like mine, which covers a lot of square miles with a sparse population, absolutely I could see local planning dept saying "let's save on gas, instead we'll use a drone to fly over and see if someone is building something without a permit"
to all I don't like drones. I just don't see how we won't end up with them, starting with "good" uses and moving on to abuse of them.
I too dislike the idea of spying on meth dealers and pot farmers with drones. But how is that different from sending a sheriff out to check out an illegal grow someone reported? That's what the argument will be. And it's hard to counter. I don't like radar guns either or traffic light cameras. But lost those battles.
SF - the guy is gathering a petition to get the town to issue drone hunting licenses. Read the article yourself.
Re Drones and farmers - http://modernfarmer.com/2013/07/drones-drones-on-the-range/
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/jul/21/industry-hopes-farmers-will-embrace-drone-technolo/
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324763404578431031698188710.html
and EPA spying on farmers - http://news.yahoo.com/epa-drones-spy-farmers-nebraska-iowa-150411579.html
Drones and commercials - not yet. But seriously? you don't see that coming? Ads are on urinals... think companies will miss the chance to blare ads over the skies? Drones will be cheaper than hiring planes to pull banners.
Re drones being used for zoning compliance - local jurisdictions in various places are already asking for drones for various reasons. In a county like mine, which covers a lot of square miles with a sparse population, absolutely I could see local planning dept saying "let's save on gas, instead we'll use a drone to fly over and see if someone is building something without a permit"
to all I don't like drones. I just don't see how we won't end up with them, starting with "good" uses and moving on to abuse of them.
I agree that the ordinance was a symbolic (and humorously so) gesture but tekky's point about farmers came from the OP article talking about what could be legitimate/good uses for drones. The other stuff, not sure but maybe she was thinking of possible uses her self. Whatever the case, most of the folks left of center fail to see the humor in shooting anything, even the neighbors.
"The FAA is working on regulations to safely integrate drones into the skies over the U.S., where manned aircraft are prevalent. The Congress gave the FAA until 2015 to develop the regulations, but the agency is behind schedule. FAA officials have estimated that once regulations are in place, thousands of drones will be in use across the country for a wide variety of purposes, from helping farmers figure out which crops need watering to tracking sea lions in remote rocky outcroppings to aiding search and rescue missions."