Eugenics in the United States

christiefan915

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Looks like Sanger got her kooky ideas from some of our most prominent citizens, eh, bravo?

"Eugenics (the study and practice of "improving" the genetic features of human populations through selective breeding and sterilization) has played a significant role in the history and culture of the United States.

Eugenics was practiced in the United States many years before eugenics programs in Nazi Germany (and in fact, U.S. programs provided much of the inspiration for the latter).[1]

Most popular in the early 20th century, it was considered a method of establishing order and uniformity in the population. By popularizing the idea of an ideal genetic character, the eugenics movement gave people something to strive towards. It shaped the social character of the times, moving society to value the norm.

The American eugenics movement was rooted in the biological determinist ideas of Sir Francis Galton, which originated in the 1880s. Galton studied the upper classes of Britain, and arrived at the conclusion that their social positions were due to a superior genetic makeup.[2] Early proponents of eugenics believed that, through selective breeding, the human species should direct its own evolution. They tended to believe in the genetic superiority of Nordic and Anglo-Saxon peoples; supported strict immigration and anti-miscegenation laws; and supported the forcible sterilization of the poor, disabled and "immoral".[3]

The American eugenics movement received extensive funding from various corporate foundations including the Carnegie Institution, Rockefeller Foundation, and the Harriman railroad fortune.[4] In 1906 J.H. Kellogg provided funding to help found the Race Betterment Foundation in Battle Creek, Michigan.[2] The Eugenics Records Office (ERO) was founded in Cold Spring Harbor, New York in 1911 by the renowned biologist Charles B. Davenport, using money from both the Harriman railroad fortune and the Carnegie Institution. As late as the 1920s, the ERO was one of the leading organizations in the American eugenics movement.[2][5] In years to come, the ERO collected a mass of family pedigrees and concluded that those who were unfit came from economically and socially poor backgrounds. Eugenicists such as Davenport, the psychologist Henry H. Goddard, Harry H. Laughlin, and the conservationist Madison Grant (all well respected in their time) began to lobby for various solutions to the problem of the "unfit". (Davenport favored immigration restriction and sterilization as primary methods; Goddard favored segregation in his The Kallikak Family; Grant favored all of the above and more, even entertaining the idea of extermination.)[6]

Eugenics was widely accepted in the U.S. academic community.[4] By 1928 there were 376 separate university courses in some of the United States' leading schools, enrolling more than 20,000 students, which included eugenics in the curriculum.[7] It did, however, have scientific detractors (notably, Thomas Hunt Morgan, one of the few Mendelians to explicitly criticize eugenics), though most of these focused more on what they considered the crude methodology of eugenicists, and the characterization of almost every human characteristic as being hereditary, rather than the idea of eugenics itself."

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States
 
What's your point, exactly? Does the fact that Sanger wasn't the first person to promote eugenics (no shit, by the way) somehow make her views any less extreme? Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was a racist bitch - accept it and move on.
 
LOL...because someone else thought of it first its not sanger's fault

i bet defense attorney's would love that defense

ladies and gentlemen, my client is not guilty because he is not the first to murder
 
I can certainly accept Sanger being the racist bitch that she was...what disturbs me is Hillary Clinton comparing her to Thomas Jefferson and cooing and aahing how much she admires the bitch....
and she is but one of many Democrats to praise the bitch and her organization....

Christiefan is probably ok with that ......
 
What's your point, exactly? Does the fact that Sanger wasn't the first person to promote eugenics (no shit, by the way) somehow make her views any less extreme? Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was a racist bitch - accept it and move on.

My point is that Sanger took on the establishment and crusaded for a woman's right to use artificial birth control, back in the days when women had few rights of any kind. More people know of her in relation to Planned Parenthood and safe, legal birth control rather than her nuttier ideas on eugenics.

Your reaction is interesting. Do you have a problem with birth control? Or is it that you don't like it when the facts show that it was actually men who were the biggest proponents of eugenics? Not just men, racist bastards like Carnegie, Harriman, Gould and Rockefeller.
 
I can certainly accept Sanger being the racist bitch that she was...what disturbs me is Hillary Clinton comparing her to Thomas Jefferson and cooing and aahing how much she admires the bitch....
and she is but one of many Democrats to praise the bitch and her organization....

Christiefan is probably ok with that ......

You mean the Thomas Jefferson who bedded a slave who was the half-sister of his wife? The wife whose father also bedded slave women?

That Thomas Jefferson?
 
LOL...because someone else thought of it first its not sanger's fault

i bet defense attorney's would love that defense

ladies and gentlemen, my client is not guilty because he is not the first to murder

Did I say anything about fault?

Nah, it's just the Amazing Yurt Kreskin and his mind reading abilities, telling me what I really think. :palm:
 
I never heard of Carnegie, Harriman, Gould or Rockefeller preach the racist, bigotry and insane beleifs that Sanger openly talked about....blacks, the poor, immigrants, etc....
If any Conservative said anything even remotely agreeing with a millionth of KKK craziness, the lefties would be spitting an sputtering shit and venom like the snakes they are....
 
I never heard of Carnegie, Harriman, Gould or Rockefeller preach the racist, bigotry and insane beleifs that Sanger openly talked about....blacks, the poor, immigrants, etc....
If any Conservative said anything even remotely agreeing with a millionth of KKK craziness, the lefties would be spitting an sputtering shit and venom like the snakes they are....

Read the article. It's hyperlinked.
 
Read the article. It's hyperlinked.
I think not....Carnegie, Harriman, Gould and Rockefeller aren't the people in question here and its a stretch to even try to involve them in this thread.....Its Sanger and Clinton....a racist bitch comparable to Hitler and her admirer, Hillary.

They were all good Democrats and Marxist weren't they ? Except for Rockefeller...and speaking of gravedigging, John was in his 90's and died in '37,... hardly responsible for the actions of the Rockefeller Foundation with Germany in the 1940's
 
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I think not....Carnegie, Harriman, Gould and Rockefeller aren't the people in question here.....Its Sanger and Clinton....a racist bitch comparable to Hitler and her admirer, Hillary.

They were all good Democrats and Marxist weren't they ? Except for Rockefeller

Wake up and smell the coffee already. I know it makes you uncomfortable to learn that some of these rich white boys favored eugenics, but facts are facts.

"The aristocratic, wealthy elite of America played a central role in the development of eugenics in America and abroad. Two such elite families are the Rockefellers and the Carnegies.

In 1902, Andrew Carnegie founded the Carnegie Institute which among other things, funded the Eugenics Record Office in America. The ERO (1910-1944) operated from Cold Spring Harbor in New York. Eugenics policies, which led to the sterilization of thousands of Americans, were developed in this office.

The Rockefellers, perhaps more so, were also heavily involved with eugenics. Rockefeller influence in American eugenics can be traced to the beginnings of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratories. John D. Rockefeller, along with Averell Harriman gave $11 million to create the facility in the early 1900′s. Rockefeller influence also spread overseas to Germany, where the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Psychiatry, and the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Eugenics, Anthropology and Human Heredity resided. Much of the money used to run these facilities came from Rockefeller. These weren’t just average scientific institutes; the Kaiser Wilhelm Institutes would become the center for Nazi eugenics programs."

http://www.oldthinkernews.com/?p=118
 
Your reaction is interesting. Do you have a problem with birth control?

Not at all. The more people who use it, the better.

Or is it that you don't like it when the facts show that it was actually men who were the biggest proponents of eugenics? Not just men, racist bastards like Carnegie, Harriman, Gould and Rockefeller.

I have no objections to you pointing that out. I am indifferent to any of the individuals you've mentioned. Unlike you, race (the fact that they were "white men") isn't an issue to me.
 
Wake up and smell the coffee already. I know it makes you uncomfortable to learn that some of these rich white boys favored eugenics, but facts are facts.

"The aristocratic, wealthy elite of America played a central role in the development of eugenics in America and abroad. Two such elite families are the Rockefellers and the Carnegies.

In 1902, Andrew Carnegie founded the Carnegie Institute which among other things, funded the Eugenics Record Office in America. The ERO (1910-1944) operated from Cold Spring Harbor in New York. Eugenics policies, which led to the sterilization of thousands of Americans, were developed in this office.

The Rockefellers, perhaps more so, were also heavily involved with eugenics. Rockefeller influence in American eugenics can be traced to the beginnings of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratories. John D. Rockefeller, along with Averell Harriman gave $11 million to create the facility in the early 1900′s. Rockefeller influence also spread overseas to Germany, where the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Psychiatry, and the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Eugenics, Anthropology and Human Heredity resided. Much of the money used to run these facilities came from Rockefeller. These weren’t just average scientific institutes; the Kaiser Wilhelm Institutes would become the center for Nazi eugenics programs."

http://www.oldthinkernews.com/?p=118

i have not seen you once in this thread criticize sanger...you seem to be defending her because other white men had the idea....there were many who believed in the ideology back then, its no secret christie
 
I find it amusing how Chris thinks she is blowing the lid off something big, as though we didn't already know that many people in the early 20th century were racist.
 
Wake up and smell the coffee already. I know it makes you uncomfortable to learn that some of these rich white boys favored eugenics, but facts are facts.

"The aristocratic, wealthy elite of America played a central role in the development of eugenics in America and abroad. Two such elite families are the Rockefellers and the Carnegies.

In 1902, Andrew Carnegie founded the Carnegie Institute which among other things, funded the Eugenics Record Office in America. The ERO (1910-1944) operated from Cold Spring Harbor in New York. Eugenics policies, which led to the sterilization of thousands of Americans, were developed in this office.

The Rockefellers, perhaps more so, were also heavily involved with eugenics. Rockefeller influence in American eugenics can be traced to the beginnings of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratories. John D. Rockefeller, along with Averell Harriman gave $11 million to create the facility in the early 1900′s. Rockefeller influence also spread overseas to Germany, where the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Psychiatry, and the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Eugenics, Anthropology and Human Heredity resided. Much of the money used to run these facilities came from Rockefeller. These weren’t just average scientific institutes; the Kaiser Wilhelm Institutes would become the center for Nazi eugenics programs."

http://www.oldthinkernews.com/?p=118

You might want to inform Hillary about these guys and see if she'll say nice things about them too....Sen. Rockefeller was a Democrat wasn't he ? He'll want to defend the family name too....
Whats your point ?.....Oh, that they were white guys? yeah how about that...Sanger was white too....
 
i have not seen you once in this thread criticize sanger...you seem to be defending her because other white men had the idea....there were many who believed in the ideology back then, its no secret christie

God, you're an idiot. First sentence: "Looks like Sanger got her kooky ideas..." And on the other thread I said she was nutty.

I'm not defending Sanger, lughead. I posted this as a defense to the thread about Hillary, and the unfair criticism that because she supports the work of Planned Parenthood, she must also support every dumb idea Sanger had.

I haven't seen any of you criticize the men of eugenics on this thread so I guess you must be defending them.
 
eugenics was not just about race as christie seems to believe and there were numerous proponents of it, including prominent dems, but christie seems fixated with only rich white guys

The modern field and term were first formulated by Sir Francis Galton in 1883,[12] drawing on the recent work of his half-cousin Charles Darwin.[13][14] At its peak of popularity eugenics was supported by prominent people, including Winston Churchill, [15] Margaret Sanger,[16][17] Marie Stopes, H. G. Wells, Theodore Roosevelt, George Bernard Shaw, John Maynard Keynes, John Harvey Kellogg, Linus Pauling[18] and Sidney Webb.[19][20][21]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

and of course she ignores the white guys who were critical of it and ignores the non whites who also practiced it
 
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