Ethical Question: Cloning Neanderthal

[Timshel]

While it may be deemed unethical to enslave other apes, but I'm interested in where do we draw the line between human and ape-like?

You said hominids. The other *great apes are hominids.

We draw the line at human, at least. Anything in the genus homo is human.

Obviously no hominid outside of the homo genus should have human rights but I would argue they have some kind of rights. Animals are a much different things than inanimate forms of property and I see no reason why we must treat them as if they are the same as a piece of land or a car.

 

[Darth Omar]

You said hominids. The other *great apes are hominids.

We draw the line at human, at least. Anything in the genus homo is human.

Obviously no hominid outside of the homo genus should have human rights but I would argue they have some kind of rights. Animals are a much different things than inanimate forms of property and I see no reason why we must treat them as if they are the same as a piece of land or a car.

Well, I like a good ribeye on the grill occasionally so yeah lol.

So, there are hominids and then there are humans? Nothing in between?

 

[Taft2016]

Well, I like a good ribeye on the grill occasionally so yeah lol.

So, there are hominids and then there are humans? Nothing in between?

What about lab experimentation?

Should we use our closest relatives as experiments to find cures for ourselves?

Would this be a suitable use for neanderthal?

 

[Taft2016]

We draw the line at human, at least. Anything in the genus homo is human.
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Who exactly is "we"?

Where has this been decided?

 

[Timshel]

Well, I like a good ribeye on the grill occasionally so yeah lol.

So, there are hominids and then there are humans? Nothing in between?

Well, chimps are closer than are other members of hominid.

There is nothing closer than chimp currently and what has existed in the past (Australopithecina or other extinct members of Panini) would not be capable of human rights. But again, I don't think it would be ethical to "enslave" them.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominini

 

[Timshel]

Who exactly is "we"?

Where has this been decided?

Your replies show how you have curled up into a ball and now all you can do is lash out with your sissy kicks.

Ask Doh'Mar, fucktard.

While it may be deemed unethical to enslave other apes, but I'm interested in where do we draw the line between human and ape-like?

 

[Taft2016]

Your replies show how you have curled up into a ball and now all you can do is lash out with your sissy kicks.

Ask Doh'Mar, fucktard.

Really?

You have been reduced to using the Bob Dole self plural tense to create an imaginary base of support for your flailing idiocy.

Loser.

 

[Timshel]

What about lab experimentation?

Should we use our closest relatives as experiments to find cures for ourselves?

Would this be a suitable use for neanderthal?

You should not be able to use them as if they are property in any case.

 

[Timshel]

Really?

You have been reduced to using the Bob Dole self plural tense to create an imaginary base of support for your flailing idiocy.

Loser.

Dumbass, DohMar asked

While it may be deemed unethical to enslave other apes, but I'm interested in where do we draw the line between human and ape-like?

So I answered...

We draw the line at human, at least. Anything in the genus homo is human.

Now go back you puddle and cry some more.

 

[Taft2016]

You should not be able to use them as if they are property in any case.

Use what? Lab apes or neanderthals?

 

[Taft2016]

So I answered...

You say "we" as if this is a settled question.

It clearly is not.

Stop lying.

Sad.

 

[TheDonald]

Wrong again. Different species can and do interbreed.

The fact is that if we were different species then any genetic markers of a breed dead for at least 40,000 years would long have been eradicated by homo sapien DNA.

What really happened is modern man invaded their territory and either killed them off and or they were assimilated into our lineage. Again humans and apes or chimps can not interbreed, though we share 98 percent of our DNA with them, so if we did interbreed with Neanderthals then they were human.......

 

[domer76]

The fact is that if we were different species then any genetic markers of a breed dead for at least 40,000 years would long have been eradicated by homo sapien DNA.

What really happened is modern man invaded their territory and either killed them off and or they were assimilated into our lineage. Again humans and apes or chimps can not interbreed, though we share 98 percent of our DNA with them, so if we did interbreed with Neanderthals then they were human.......

Since you missed it the first time, I'll repeat. Different species can and do interbreed.

I typed slowly, dumbfuck. Try to read it slowly.

 

[Darth Omar]

The fact is that if we were different species then any genetic markers of a breed dead for at least 40,000 years would long have been eradicated by homo sapien DNA.

What really happened is modern man invaded their territory and either killed them off and or they were assimilated into our lineage. Again humans and apes or chimps can not interbreed, though we share 98 percent of our DNA with them, so if we did interbreed with Neanderthals then they were human.......

Think about this lol: if the above is true, every living being bears generational guilt of genocide.

 

[Taft2016]

Think about this lol: if the above is true, every living being bears generational guilt of genocide.

If you extend genocide to other species, then this collective guilt becomes even greater.

 

[Darth Omar]

Since you missed it the first time, I'll repeat. Different species can and do interbreed.

I typed slowly, dumbfuck. Try to read it slowly.

But when different 'species' interbreed to produce fertile offspring, it raises the question of whether they are actually different species as opposed to variants of the same species.

 

[TheDonald]

Think about this lol: if the above is true, every living being bears generational guilt of genocide.

It's really similar to what happened with the Indians in America. Sure there were wars, but they were not eradicated. The only way that they survive is by the creation of reservations, but not all Indians went onto a reservation, those Indians accepted the new society and interbred with the people, and some became very successful. So there was no real genocide, just one more adequate mammal.

This is an Indian.............

 

[Bigdog]

But when different 'species' interbreed to produce fertile offspring, it raises the question of whether they are actually different species as opposed to variants of the same species.

Yep, the definition of "species" is malleable.

 

[Darth Omar]

It's really similar to what happened with the Indians in America. Sure there were wars, but they were not eradicated. The only way that they survive is by the creation of reservations, but not all Indians went onto a reservation, those Indians accepted the new society and interbred with the people, and some became very successful. So there was no real genocide, just one more adequate mammal.

This is an Indian.............

Oh, Shania lol.

Evolution may explain some things but it makes for a lousy basis for a worldview. Hitler was supposedly enamored with some of its implications.

It's easy to see why: The superiority of certain races flows easily from it. And you can take the next step in thinking it would better humanity to 'help natural selection along'.

 

[domer76]

But when different 'species' interbreed to produce fertile offspring, it raises the question of whether they are actually different species as opposed to variants of the same species.

lol

No it doesn't