Ethical Question: Cloning Neanderthal

TheDonald said:
Actually one theory is that Neanderthals are not truly extinct, but were overthrown by modern man and in the process have become interbred with modern homo sapiens.

https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/ In fact Europeans are 1 to 2 percent Neanderthal.

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Most people of the world are at least part neanderthal... That has been borne out by genome studies ...

The only truly pure homo sapiens are sub-Saharan black Africans...
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
If they were/are a different species, then surrogates would not work; because it would be like transplanting fertilized eggs from one species into another.
The host body would reject the eggs and they would die.
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Not necessarily. They expect a modern elephant would be a suitable surrogate for a woolly mammoth clone, and a human could do the same for a Neanderthal.

Then even if it was possible, it be the same as breeding a species of slaves and ethically this would be wrong.
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We breed other species for food, and others for farm work. How would this be markedly different in terms of ethics? Which is really the point of what I was trying to explore in this thread.
 
Taft2016 said:
Not necessarily. They expect a modern elephant would be a suitable surrogate for a woolly mammoth clone, and a human could do the same for a Neanderthal.



We breed other species for food, and others for farm work. How would this be markedly different in terms of ethics? Which is really the point of what I was trying to explore in this thread.
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You are part neanderthal, swine...
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
Racist scum like Taft have no sense of humor ...
He yearns for the days of slavery...
This post proves it...
Taft is a sub-human swine...
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Technically this would make a "specist" since we're not talking about human beings. We're talking about another species.

But it does make you a racist because you apparently view non-whites in the same category as non-humans.

Interesting.
 
Taft2016 said:
And your DNA matches 98% of that of a chimpanzee.

Banana?
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Fuck you racist ...sorry if the current science doesn't fit in with your traditional arian view of white supremacy, but neanderthal genome studies have shown that you and virtually all white people have a fair amount of neanderthal DNA but southern African indigenous people do not.
The only pure homo sapiens on the fucking planet are sub saharan African blacks...
You dreams of sub-species modern slavery have gone up in smoke...
Unless you are willing to become a slave to pure black Africans...You fucking swine...
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
Fuck you racist ...sorry if the current science doesn't fit in with your traditional arian view of white supremacy, but neanderthal genome studies have shown that you and virtually all white people have a fair amount of neanderthal DNA but southern African indigenous people do not.
The only pure homo sapiens on the fucking planet are sub saharan African blacks...
You dreams of sub-species modern slavery have gone up in smoke...
Unless you are willing to become a slave to pure black Africans...You fucking swine...
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And yet you were the one who associated historical slavery with non-humans.

Sorry, you're a racist.
 
Taft2016 said:
And yet you were the one who associated historical slavery with non-humans.

Sorry, you're a racist.
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Bullshit. Blacks are the ONLY pure homo sapiens.You are the one who longs for the good ole days when people could be owned like fucking cattle.
You tipped you racist hand asshole.
 
TheDonald said:
Wow that was clever, did your mom help you with that one?
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No ... genetic science did, asswipe.

A team of scientists comparing the full genomes of the two species concluded that most Europeans and Asians have between 1 to 4 percent Neanderthal DNA. Indigenous sub-Saharan Africans have no Neanderthal DNA because their ancestors did not migrate through Eurasia.

https://www.google.com/search?q=neanderthals+are+human&oq=neanderthals+are+human&aqs=chrome..69i57.10480j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
No we are not asshole, the neanderthals are you and your kin...
Fuck you.
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I'd love to believe you, but people who know more (which would probably include Neanderthals themselves) say otherwise:

"According to a new study that analyzed different aspects of the nasal complex in Neanderthals and other later Pleistocene fossils from Europe and Africa, Neanderthals were a distinct species of the genus Homo, and not a subspecies of anatomically modern humans (Homo sapiens neanderthalensis) as some scientists thought.Nov 19, 2014"

http://www.sci-news.com/otherscienc...eanderthals-separate-human-species-02284.html
 
Taft2016 said:
I'd love to believe you, but people who know more (which would probably include Neanderthals themselves) say otherwise:

"According to a new study that analyzed different aspects of the nasal complex in Neanderthals and other later Pleistocene fossils from Europe and Africa, Neanderthals were a distinct species of the genus Homo, and not a subspecies of anatomically modern humans (Homo sapiens neanderthalensis) as some scientists thought.Nov 19, 2014"

http://www.sci-news.com/otherscienc...eanderthals-separate-human-species-02284.html
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A distinct species that interbred with homo sapiens migrating through Eurasia... Your ancestors.
The genome doesn't lie, fuckface...
 
Taft2016 said:
Developing evidence suggests that Neanderthal was a separate and distinct species from modern man.

Developing technology suggests it may someday be possible to clone a Neanderthal from recovered DNA.

Even though human surrogates would be used for the cloning process, would the ethics of human cloning come into play?

Or because they are a separate species, would it simply be a matter of the ethics of cloning extinct species, such as the woolly mammoth?

Once cloned, would it be ethical to use Neanderthals as a workforce for modern man, much as we used other livestock for labor?

They would be pretty handy to have around. Higher intelligence than other livestock, and probably a capacity to even understand our languages, perhaps even communicate intelligently.

Opinions?
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The original post bumped for Fuckley's review.

To read that and see racism in it is a truly warped perspective.

Clearly he viewed historical slavery as the forced labor of a lesser species.

Sad.
 
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