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Once again, the world has to face the trageic results when you mix extremism with hate. This time it's some evil, narcissistic asshole in Norway, who wasted 80 some lives in order to gain attention for his mean spirited viewpoints.

Now here in America, the initial reaction was that Al Qaeda was somehow linked to this horror. But even after the facts reveal that the culprit was a totally home grown terrorist, some of our local papers opinion and op-ed analysis STILL tried to mentally link Al Qaeda to the situation, as if this incident will somehow take some steam out of the Al Qeada fear factor that drives much of our Homeland Security and basic national security appropriations and actions.

And this is what annoys me, because given the history of the world one cannot keep pretending that only people of a certain race or ethinic group or religious belief are capable of mass destruction and murder.....that it's "others" who are only capable of such evil acts, and that it "rarely happens here". I recall how Italy STILL has a political party expousing fascism, and Germany has one with shades of nazi ideology dripping from it, and how France's Sarkozy makes forcing muslim women to remove their ceremonial head scarves a rallying point for his society. Then you have the ethnic cleansing in Rwanda, Bosnai/Croatia/Kosovo, the murder of catholics in the Sudan, that Chile's Pinochet literally got away with murder, the far right, anti-immigrant nationalist Swedish Democrats the old National Front and it's offshoot the BNP in England....and God knows the plethora of separatists/supremacist groups that are alive and functioning here in the good old USA.

I could go on, but hopefully you get my point....we must all acknowledge the evil that dwells within our own backyard, and make the effort on any level to stamp out or halt it's spread. Remember, the jokes you think are harmless about someone's race or religion or culture that are told among your friends may be taken seriously by one...and as we see in Norway, one is all it takes. I see it like this...I don't have to like you or hang out with you or agree with everything you say or do...but so long as you don't break laws or hurt anyone, I do have to give you the same respect and courtesy that I expect to be given. Remember, as children in 1st grade we were taught to share and be nice to each other. Maybe applying those simple rules to the adults in the world might prevent another Norway terror strike.
 
Really ?.....AQ....? I saw some speculation before the facts were known, actually just minutes after the bombing but haven't seen any Al Qaeda references lately....

Link me up, I'd like to read some of that stuff.....
 
Once again, the world has to face the trageic results when you mix extremism with hate. This time it's some evil, narcissistic asshole in Norway, who wasted 80 some lives in order to gain attention for his mean spirited viewpoints.

Now here in America, the initial reaction was that Al Qaeda was somehow linked to this horror. But even after the facts reveal that the culprit was a totally home grown terrorist, some of our local papers opinion and op-ed analysis STILL tried to mentally link Al Qaeda to the situation, as if this incident will somehow take some steam out of the Al Qeada fear factor that drives much of our Homeland Security and basic national security appropriations and actions.

And this is what annoys me, because given the history of the world one cannot keep pretending that only people of a certain race or ethinic group or religious belief are capable of mass destruction and murder.....that it's "others" who are only capable of such evil acts, and that it "rarely happens here". I recall how Italy STILL has a political party expousing fascism, and Germany has one with shades of nazi ideology dripping from it, and how France's Sarkozy makes forcing muslim women to remove their ceremonial head scarves a rallying point for his society. Then you have the ethnic cleansing in Rwanda, Bosnai/Croatia/Kosovo, the murder of catholics in the Sudan, that Chile's Pinochet literally got away with murder, the far right, anti-immigrant nationalist Swedish Democrats the old National Front and it's offshoot the BNP in England....and God knows the plethora of separatists/supremacist groups that are alive and functioning here in the good old USA.

I could go on, but hopefully you get my point....we must all acknowledge the evil that dwells within our own backyard, and make the effort on any level to stamp out or halt it's spread. Remember, the jokes you think are harmless about someone's race or religion or culture that are told among your friends may be taken seriously by one...and as we see in Norway, one is all it takes. I see it like this...I don't have to like you or hang out with you or agree with everything you say or do...but so long as you don't break laws or hurt anyone, I do have to give you the same respect and courtesy that I expect to be given. Remember, as children in 1st grade we were taught to share and be nice to each other. Maybe applying those simple rules to the adults in the world might prevent another Norway terror strike.

I will agree with much that you are saying here but would you defend the wearing of the burkha? To my mind, It is a medieval practice mostly instigated by men on their female partners. It has no place in modern society, I welcome France and Belgium' s decision to ban this abhorrence to female rights. Where I live in Northern England until about 10 years ago you never saw anybody wearing the bhurka yet now it has become increasing common to see amongst young females. It is a practice that is increasingly frowned on in the Middle East, in fact in many countries it has been banned for some time. I was in Bangkok some weeks ago and was watching a woman wearing a contraption that I can only describe as a T-shaped piece of metal that went under the eyes, covered her nose and more or less covered her mouth. My friend Neil Attisha, who is an Iraqi Christian, told me that it originates from Egypt but I have a hard time defending such practices.
 
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Once again, the world has to face the trageic results when you mix extremism with hate. This time it's some evil, narcissistic asshole in Norway, who wasted 80 some lives in order to gain attention for his mean spirited viewpoints.

Now here in America, the initial reaction was that Al Qaeda was somehow linked to this horror. But even after the facts reveal that the culprit was a totally home grown terrorist, some of our local papers opinion and op-ed analysis STILL tried to mentally link Al Qaeda to the situation, as if this incident will somehow take some steam out of the Al Qeada fear factor that drives much of our Homeland Security and basic national security appropriations and actions.

And this is what annoys me, because given the history of the world one cannot keep pretending that only people of a certain race or ethinic group or religious belief are capable of mass destruction and murder.....that it's "others" who are only capable of such evil acts, and that it "rarely happens here". I recall how Italy STILL has a political party expousing fascism, and Germany has one with shades of nazi ideology dripping from it, and how France's Sarkozy makes forcing muslim women to remove their ceremonial head scarves a rallying point for his society. Then you have the ethnic cleansing in Rwanda, Bosnai/Croatia/Kosovo, the murder of catholics in the Sudan, that Chile's Pinochet literally got away with murder, the far right, anti-immigrant nationalist Swedish Democrats the old National Front and it's offshoot the BNP in England....and God knows the plethora of separatists/supremacist groups that are alive and functioning here in the good old USA.

I could go on, but hopefully you get my point....we must all acknowledge the evil that dwells within our own backyard, and make the effort on any level to stamp out or halt it's spread. Remember, the jokes you think are harmless about someone's race or religion or culture that are told among your friends may be taken seriously by one.

Thats a serious observation and absolutely true......whether its about Muslim fanatics, crazy Scientology, or Evangelical Christians or Christian Fundamentalists, or "teabaggers"....those are dangerous and hateful things to say even in jest....and it sometimes is the tipping point to drive someone over the edge......you're absolutely right....




..and as we see in Norway, one is all it takes. I see it like this...I don't have to like you or hang out with you or agree with everything you say or do...but so long as you don't break laws or hurt anyone, I do have to give you the same respect and courtesy that I expect to be given. Remember, as children in 1st grade we were taught to share and be nice to each other. Maybe applying those simple rules to the adults in the world might prevent another Norway terror strike.
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I will agree with much that you are saying here but I cannot understand why you are defending the wearing of the burka? It is a medieval practice mostly instigated by men on their female partners. It has no place in modern society. I welcome France and Belgium' s decision to ban this abhorrence to female rights.
Its no different that defending female circumcision or beating your wife or some of the other medieval shit they inflict on women....
If some idiot was burning cats or goats on an altar because it was his "religion", we wouldn't allow it.....
 
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Its no different that defending female circumcision or beating your wife or some of the others mid-evil shit they inflict on women....If some idiot was burning cats or goats on an altar because it was his "religion", we wouldn't allow it.....



"Mid-evil"?


Poor Blabo.
 
Once again, the world has to face the trageic results when you mix extremism with hate. This time it's some evil, narcissistic asshole in Norway, who wasted 80 some lives in order to gain attention for his mean spirited viewpoints.

Now here in America, the initial reaction was that Al Qaeda was somehow linked to this horror. But even after the facts reveal that the culprit was a totally home grown terrorist, some of our local papers opinion and op-ed analysis STILL tried to mentally link Al Qaeda to the situation, as if this incident will somehow take some steam out of the Al Qeada fear factor that drives much of our Homeland Security and basic national security appropriations and actions.

And this is what annoys me, because given the history of the world one cannot keep pretending that only people of a certain race or ethinic group or religious belief are capable of mass destruction and murder.....that it's "others" who are only capable of such evil acts, and that it "rarely happens here". I recall how Italy STILL has a political party expousing fascism, and Germany has one with shades of nazi ideology dripping from it, and how France's Sarkozy makes forcing muslim women to remove their ceremonial head scarves a rallying point for his society. Then you have the ethnic cleansing in Rwanda, Bosnai/Croatia/Kosovo, the murder of catholics in the Sudan, that Chile's Pinochet literally got away with murder, the far right, anti-immigrant nationalist Swedish Democrats the old National Front and it's offshoot the BNP in England....and God knows the plethora of separatists/supremacist groups that are alive and functioning here in the good old USA.

I could go on, but hopefully you get my point....we must all acknowledge the evil that dwells within our own backyard, and make the effort on any level to stamp out or halt it's spread. Remember, the jokes you think are harmless about someone's race or religion or culture that are told among your friends may be taken seriously by one...and as we see in Norway, one is all it takes. I see it like this...I don't have to like you or hang out with you or agree with everything you say or do...but so long as you don't break laws or hurt anyone, I do have to give you the same respect and courtesy that I expect to be given. Remember, as children in 1st grade we were taught to share and be nice to each other. Maybe applying those simple rules to the adults in the world might prevent another Norway terror strike.

Excellent! :good4u: :clap: :clap: :clap:
 
Sorry to burst your anti-Christian bubble, but Islam is still a far greater threat to western civilization than any right-wing extremist Christian. Most Christians are reasonable people. The same cannot be said of most Muslims in some countries. Case in point:

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http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Does that sound like a free, equitable society to you? Does that sound like a people you can reason with?
 
Then we are even more fucked up than I thought.....I shouldn't be surprised though....it won't be long before men will be marrying sheep instead of each other....



That's perfectly alright. We are used to your professions of ignorance regarding subjects you've already advanced an opinion on.



Regarding the sheep, I suppose you have that to look forward to, Blabo. I'm not judging, you understand.



Congratulations on your impending engagement.





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Then we are even more fucked up than I thought.....I shouldn't be surprised though....it won't be long before men will be marrying sheep instead of each other....

That will never become popular. Too many people find wool causes them to itch.
 
That's perfectly alright. We are used to your professions of ignorance regarding subjects you've already advanced an opinion on.



Regarding the sheep, I suppose you have that to look forward to, Blabo. I'm not judging, you understand.



Congratulations on your impending engagement.





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I have always had great difficulty understanding how so many are able to turn a blind eye to such things as apostasy, denial of female and homosexual rights in some Muslim countries. Yet would not tolerate such abuse on their own shores? I will say though that your posting of a sheep is unwelcome and juvenile.
 
I have always had great difficulty understanding how so many are able to turn a blind eye to such things as apostasy, denial of female and homosexual rights in some Muslim countries. Yet would not tolerate such abuse on their own shores? I will say though that your posting of a sheep is unwelcome and juvenile.



I have given your objection the consideration it merits.
 
You might start addressing some of the issues I've raised. Let's start with apostasy, do you think it right that some Muslim countries have no problem with considering death as a suitable punishment for renouncing Islam as their religion? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam



I don't make a practice of exhibiting a keen sense of outrage regarding prevailing attitudes in countries I don't inhabit or plan to visit, since they tend to be none of my affair.


Do carry on, though. This is utterly fascinating.
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Here you go Christiefan.....you're gonna love this one....maybe it'll get across the border and into your neighborhood school soon....probably won't be as popular as stoning though.....http://www.theblaze.com/stories/is-...ddle-school-ask-the-menstruating-young-girls/



Poor Blabo.


Fearmonger much?


Are you aware that stoning, classification of menstruating women as "unclean" and some of the other things you want us to fear are also prescribed in the Holy Bible?


You might try reading it sometime.
 
I guess you'll be jumping with joy when France or the US maybe allows stoning women in the town squares.....:palm: its religious law you know....

Give me one reason why France or the US would allow stoning women... on Main St., I guess, since town squares are a thing of the past.
 
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