Electric cars soaked by saltwater from hurricane go up in flames

[Lionfish]

Ever heard of Never Seez on bolt and nut threads?

Believe me, it works. I put it on my spinners, hub, etc. I haven't had one loosen, and you can break them free much easier.

Works great on axles that are prone to rust, just don't get it on your hands.

 

[Nomad]

You don't want to know, Mad. You've been proving that on two different threads where you've posted to me. You didn't read the OP link about the shotgun weilding man and you didn't read the link about what causes electric car fires or the fact there are more gas car fires vs. electric.

Too many other people posting here for me to waste my time clicking on links and slogging through entire articles because you're too lazy to encapsulate them in your posts.

Your problem not mine.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Ever heard of Never Seez on bolt and nut threads?

Believe me, it works. I put it on my spinners, hub, etc. I haven't had one loosen, and you can break them free much easier.

Not the problem here. The cover of the battery pan requires gasketed bolts that are stainless steel. Stainless bolts wouldn't rust making them easier to remove. The gasket on the bolt would prevent leakage at one.

They already make such an item for metal roofing for example:

So, you use something like this:

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Too many other people posting here for me to waste my time clicking on links and slogging through entire articles because you're too lazy to encapsulate them in your posts.

Your problem not mine.

Mine neither. Have a nice day, Mad.

 

[ExpressLane]

Not the problem here. The cover of the battery pan requires gasketed bolts that are stainless steel. Stainless bolts wouldn't rust making them easier to remove. The gasket on the bolt would prevent leakage at one.

They already make such an item for metal roofing for example:

So, you use something like this:

If they can seal an oil pan they could seal a belly pan.

 

[RB 60]

Not the problem here. The cover of the battery pan requires gasketed bolts that are stainless steel. Stainless bolts wouldn't rust making them easier to remove. The gasket on the bolt would prevent leakage at one.

They already make such an item for metal roofing for example:

So, you use something like this:

Yes. I have a metal roof on my house and my garage.

Stainless bolts are much more expensive. Harder materials wear tooling much quicker.
If the CNC operator is using the 3 wire method to check tolerances, He'd best stay off facebook and check them often.

Go with hardened and coat them.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Yes. I have a metal roof on my house and my garage.

Stainless bolts are much more expensive. Harder materials wear tooling much quicker.
If the CNC operator is using the 3 wire method to check tolerances, He'd best stay off facebook and check them often.

Go with hardened and coat them.

Well, if the greentards hadn't banned cadmium as a corrosion plating material, those bolts could be used. Zinc plating is less effective. In any case, the bolt would need a gasket on it.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Well, if the greentards hadn't banned cadmium as a corrosion plating material, those bolts could be used. Zinc plating is less effective. In any case, the bolt would need a gasket on it.

Link? The only thing I could find was that cadmium-plated tools caused corrosion on titanium.

https://web.archive.org/web/2007100.../breaking-through-technological-barriers.html
Titanium also was very sensitive to contaminants such as chlorine and cadmium. Pentel pens could not be used to draw on sheets of the metal because their chlorine-based ink left etch marks. Wing panels that were spot welded in the summer failed within six or seven weeks, but those made in the winter lasted indefinitely. The problem was traced to Burbank’s water, which was heavily chlorinated in the summer to prevent algae growth but not in the winter. Switching to distilled water to wash the panels after acid treatment prevented a recurrence. When bolt heads dropped off under high heat, Skunk Works troubleshooters found that cadmium-plated wrenches left enough residue to weaken the fittings. Hundreds of tool boxes had to be inspected to get rid of the now-useless implements.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Link? The only thing I could find was that cadmium-plated tools caused corrosion on titanium.

https://web.archive.org/web/2007100.../breaking-through-technological-barriers.html
Titanium also was very sensitive to contaminants such as chlorine and cadmium. Pentel pens could not be used to draw on sheets of the metal because their chlorine-based ink left etch marks. Wing panels that were spot welded in the summer failed within six or seven weeks, but those made in the winter lasted indefinitely. The problem was traced to Burbank’s water, which was heavily chlorinated in the summer to prevent algae growth but not in the winter. Switching to distilled water to wash the panels after acid treatment prevented a recurrence. When bolt heads dropped off under high heat, Skunk Works troubleshooters found that cadmium-plated wrenches left enough residue to weaken the fittings. Hundreds of tool boxes had to be inspected to get rid of the now-useless implements.

I know about this because I used to have to contract out for cadmium plating.

Why is Cadmium Plating Banned?
Cadmium is a highly toxic cumulative poison and an IARC Group 2A material (probable human carcinogen). Because it leaches easily, it is a frequent environmental contaminant from aircraft and engine washdowns. It is heavily regulated throughout the world, with a PEL of 0.1 mg/m3 in the US. Under the European rules ELV (End-of-life Vehicles), WEEE (Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment) and RoHS (Restriction of Hazardous Substances), cadmium is restricted to no more than 0.01wt% of any vehicle and electronic material or coating, with exemptions for aircraft and military use. These exemptions are only temporary and are intended to be removed once alternatives become available. Under the new European REACH statute (Registration, Evaluation, Authorization and Restriction of Chemicals), cadmium plating is forbidden except for aircraft and some safety and electrical equipment. REACH has no exemption for military use, posing a problem for sustainment of military vehicles in Europe.

The result of this worldwide pressure is that cadmium (Cd) plating (which was once widely used in everything from automotive bolts to padlocks and deck screws) has been removed from almost all commercial use. The only remaining major uses are aircraft and military applications, and the legal exemptions for these systems are intended only to remain in force for a limited time.

There are DoD HAZMAT policy memos now being drafted and circulated regarding the elimination of restricted and banned materials on DoD weapons system programs.

https://www.alumiplate.com/solutions/cadmium-plating-alternative/

Why is cadmium plating banned?
According to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), cadmium is highly toxic and exposure to it and its compounds can cause health problems. These include pulmonary irritation, kidney disease, and lung cancer. Cadmium is also an IARC Group 2A material that leeches easily, so it isn’t environmentally friendly.

Under the European REACH statute, cadmium plating is banned except for certain uses. And worldwide cadmium plating has been removed from almost all commercial uses. The only remaining uses are aircraft and military applications, however it’s expected these will be phased out too.

This is why cadmium alternatives, like Zinc-Nickel, are used for many cases instead.
https://www.sifcoasc.com/cadmium-replacements

 

[RB 60]

Well, if the greentards hadn't banned cadmium as a corrosion plating material, those bolts could be used. Zinc plating is less effective. In any case, the bolt would need a gasket on it.

Yes, a corrosion resistant seal of some sort.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I know about this because I used to have to contract out for cadmium plating.

Why is Cadmium Plating Banned?
Cadmium is a highly toxic cumulative poison and an IARC Group 2A material (probable human carcinogen). Because it leaches easily, it is a frequent environmental contaminant from aircraft and engine washdowns. It is heavily regulated throughout the world,...

https://www.alumiplate.com/solutions/cadmium-plating-alternative/

Why is cadmium plating banned?
According to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), cadmium is highly toxic and exposure to it and its compounds can cause health problems. These include pulmonary irritation, kidney disease, and lung cancer. Cadmium is also an IARC Group 2A material that leeches easily, so it isn’t environmentally friendly.

Under the European REACH statute, cadmium plating is banned except for certain uses. And worldwide cadmium plating has been removed from almost all commercial uses. The only remaining uses are aircraft and military applications, however it’s expected these will be phased out too.

This is why cadmium alternatives, like Zinc-Nickel, are used for many cases instead.
https://www.sifcoasc.com/cadmium-replacements

Sooo being a carcinogenic is the Libs fault? Do you blame the Left for everything that doesn't go your way, Terry?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Sooo being a carcinogenic is the Libs fault? Do you blame the Left for everything that doesn't go your way, Terry?

No, overreaching is the greentards fault in this case. There was no provable reason cadmium needed to be banned other than laboratory studies showed it had some nasty properties. This is one of those we should ban it because it could be bad for the environment things. It's part of the 'zero tolerance' mentality towards regulations.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

No, overreaching is the greentards fault in this case. There was no provable reason cadmium needed to be banned other than laboratory studies showed it had some nasty properties. This is one of those we should ban it because it could be bad for the environment things. It's part of the 'zero tolerance' mentality towards regulations.

Your own link stated "It is heavily regulated throughout the world", Terry. Why did you dodge the question about liberals? Is it because, like your claims of election fraud, you have no evidence, only opinion?

 

[Hawkeye10]

I am expecting that the EV insurance problem will continue to get worse.

 

[Saint Guinefort]

Two Tesla cars, one in Palm Harbor and another in Pinellas Park, seemed to spontaneously combust after becoming flooded with saltwater during the hurricane, Florida officials said.

On Aug. 30, Palm Harbor Fire Rescue responded to a Tesla on fire in Dunedin, according to the department’s Facebook post.

“If you own a hybrid or electric vehicle that has come into contact with saltwater due to recent flooding within the last 24 hours, it is crucial to relocate the vehicle from your garage without delay,” Palm Harbor Fire Rescue said in the post.

Firefighters said exposure from saltwater can trigger spontaneous combustion of lithium-ion batteries, used in electric cars, but also found in some golf carts and electric scooters.

In the weeks following the saltwater surge, there were 12 reports of electric vehicle fires in Collier and Lee counties, according to the U.S. Fire Administration.

One of those fires grew so severe it burned down two houses on Sanibel Island, the administration said.

“According to the NHTSA, residual salt within the battery or battery components can form conductive ‘bridges’ that can lead to short circuit and self-heating of the battery, resulting in fires,” the USFA said. “The time frame in which a damaged battery can ignite has been observed to vary widely, from days to weeks.”


https://news.yahoo.com/electric-cars-soaked-saltwater-hurricane-205349787.html

Thank heavens when you flood an ICE car completely in salt water there's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH THE VEHICLE AFTERWARDS.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

How so?

Hmmm..

So if something isn't in a statement then it shouldn't be claimed as supporting something?

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Sometimes when you are losing it is just better to shut your pie hole.

Sometimes it's best to know the score before you claim someone is losing.

Are you able to count past 10 or understand any comment that isn't literal.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

The truth about electric cars is they are NOT really very green to manufacturer or drive.

Is that "truth" as opposed to facts?

EVs are much greener than ICE vehicles.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/life-cycle-emissions-evs-vs-combustion-engine-vehicles/

 

[Bigdog]

Is that "truth" as opposed to facts?

EVs are much greener than ICE vehicles.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/life-cycle-emissions-evs-vs-combustion-engine-vehicles/

From your own source, Dick ...

TOTAL: EV 39 tCO2e
Hyb 47 tCO2e
ICE 55 tCO2e

Any transportation vehicle that creates nearly 40 tons of CO2 is NOT green.

Any car that emits 71% of the CO2 (as your source shows) that an ICE car emits is NOT green.

Any white lib climate changer that is NOT a hypocrite regarding CO2 will ride a bicycle (roughly 500-1,000 lbs. of CO2) using your sources parameters.

And for relevancy, the pandemic's 5.4% reduction in CO2 emissions had absolutely zero effect on CO2 growth. That's right, atmospheric CO2 continued to grow at the same rate during the pandemic.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

From your own source, Dick ...

TOTAL: EV 39 tCO2e
Hyb 47 tCO2e
ICE 55 tCO2e

Any transportation vehicle that creates nearly 40 tons of CO2 is NOT green.

Any car that emits 71% of the CO2 (as your source shows) that an ICE car emits is NOT green.

Any white lib climate changer that is NOT a hypocrite regarding CO2 will ride a bicycle (roughly 500-1,000 lbs. of CO2) using your sources parameters.

And for relevancy, the pandemic's 5.4% reduction in CO2 emissions had absolutely zero effect on CO2 growth. That's right, atmospheric CO2 continued to grow at the same rate during the pandemic.

Thanks for proving a rock is stupid since you are stupider than a rock.