drinking and driving

in ca driving while impaired is illegal - whether you are drunk or high on some other drug

the legality of the drug is not relevant - impaired is impaired

really...i had no idea

the issue here though is DUI's....no other drug kills as many on the road as alcohol...don't try and change the subjecgt
 
really...i had no idea

the issue here though is DUI's....no other drug kills as many on the road as alcohol...don't try and change the subjecgt

alcohol may be the leading drug of choice or cause, but even over the counter drugs like antihistamines or decongestants can cause a driver to be impaired, but you are correct, drunks are the leading cause of duis
 
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alcohol may be the leading drug of choice or cause, but even over the counter drugs like antihistamines or decongestants can cause a driver to be impaired, but you are correct, drunks are the leading cause of duis

i agree with you...i didn't mean to say that we should allow any impairment, rather, i meant only to point out how stupid it is that marijuana is an illegal drug and yet alcohol related accidents far out number, the point of absolute absurdity, any drug related accidents, including marijuana and the drugs you listed
 
Marijuania really doesn't impair you as bad as alcohol. Really I can't think of anything that has the ability to impair you as bad as alcohol and still leave you thinking it's a good idea to drive.
 
Marijuania really doesn't impair you as bad as alcohol. Really I can't think of anything that has the ability to impair you as bad as alcohol and still leave you thinking it's a good idea to drive.

wtf is marijuania? is that some new wannabe marijuana drug the emo's at your school are doing? :)

your point is fair watermark....however...speed, cocaine, crack....if those drugs (all really a family of each other) are done for a period of time, the result is as bad as alcohol.....because you are awake for days and the impairment is significant....fortunately, many just get tired and go to sleep, unfortunately, there are many who combine one or more of those drugs with alcohol and the results are disasterous.

alcohol is still the number one drug that causes automobile deaths....IMO....if there were tests available for other drugs like there is for alcohol, we would see the stats change....probably not much...but the stats would change
 
Like, you know, you couldn't drive on LSD or DMT, but I also doubt you'd be capable of getting behind the wheel.

i don't know what dmt is....but i have in fact driven on LSD...every time i took a hit....i only tried it a few times, in HS and shortly after, i was the only one anyone "trusted" to drive while under the influence

you're talking nonsense trying to sound smart
 
wtf is marijuania? is that some new wannabe marijuana drug the emo's at your school are doing? :)

your point is fair watermark....however...speed, cocaine, crack....if those drugs (all really a family of each other) are done for a period of time, the result is as bad as alcohol.....because you are awake for days and the impairment is significant....fortunately, many just get tired and go to sleep, unfortunately, there are many who combine one or more of those drugs with alcohol and the results are disasterous.

alcohol is still the number one drug that causes automobile deaths....IMO....if there were tests available for other drugs like there is for alcohol, we would see the stats change....probably not much...but the stats would change

I dunno, maybe if you took speed to stay up for days on end you would be as impaired alcohol. Alcohol is definitely up there with it anyway.
 
i don't know what dmt is....but i have in fact driven on LSD...every time i took a hit....i only tried it a few times, in HS and shortly after, i was the only one anyone "trusted" to drive while under the influence

you're talking nonsense trying to sound smart

Yous ain't gots no street smarts. You don't even knows what this is, bo.
 
The problem with alcohol is society throws all different laws at it.

For example, in cases of DWI it's assumed the driver intentionally drove and was aware and responsible for their decision. Compare that to a woman who has sex while intoxicated. In certain jurisdictions the man can be charged with rape as it's considered the woman was not capable of making a decision.

So, which is it? Is a person aware and making a conscious choice or not?
 
I've never said anything before but my younger brother was killed by a drunk driver just over 4 years ago as he was crossing a road. So I have to say that your comments are in very poor taste. The driver eventually got two years for the crime but it hardly makes up for it.

That is truly terrible. I'm so sorry to hear it.

Getting two years for homicide by vehicle is a travesty. I hope this person is haunted for the rest of his life that his actions resulted in the death of an innocent person.
 
The problem with alcohol is society throws all different laws at it.

For example, in cases of DWI it's assumed the driver intentionally drove and was aware and responsible for their decision. Compare that to a woman who has sex while intoxicated. In certain jurisdictions the man can be charged with rape as it's considered the woman was not capable of making a decision.

So, which is it? Is a person aware and making a conscious choice or not?

Conservatives don't care about it being logically consistent, they just want as many people in prison for as long as possible.
 
This is just Watermark trying desperately to look provocative. Usually he pulls his pants down and prances.

Now THAT's bad taste.

So sorry to hear of the loss of your brother. That's just awful Tom, and I am being sincere.

WM was just doing his usual thing but he caught me at a bad time whilst I was thinking about my brother,. Thanks for your comments though we'd had our differences but things like that make you realise how weird and strange life can be.
 
That is truly terrible. I'm so sorry to hear it.

Getting two years for homicide by vehicle is a travesty. I hope this person is haunted for the rest of his life that his actions resulted in the death of an innocent person.

The guy that did it was a bit of a loner and he had previous form for driving offences, he'd previously been in prison for assault.
 
I've never said anything before but my younger brother was killed by a drunk driver just over 4 years ago as he was crossing a road. So I have to say that your comments are in very poor taste. The driver eventually got two years for the crime but it hardly makes up for it.
I am deeply sorry.
 
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