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Phantasmal said:
Like trade deficits, that’s not how I would phrase it, it’s just part of dealing with other countries. I just find Trump to be an uninformed hypocrite in these matters. Economist say they don’t matter. I truly don’t understand enough about the deficit, currency and trade to find a solution. I just know that Donald as the President doesn’t understand it, either.
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that's like advising battered women to stay in bad relationships.
economists are paid to present globalist idiot policy, as "the only way".

national sovereignty gets in the way of profit maximization.

you should have gone with bernie, he's an actual liber who understands things, and he agreed with trump on tpp.
 
Bourbon said:
Are you a Market Statistician ... Yes or No?

If so, please feel free to post your Statistics refuting the claim.
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1) The economic growth is north of 3%, better than the past 8 years.
2) The stock market is slightly down this year, but better than 2001,2002, 2008, 2011... so clearly not the worst since 72
3) Inflation is tame, interest rates still historically low... which is far better than the double digit inflation of Carter couple with extremely high interest rates.

That is simply a few metrics that show it is not the worst. What metrics make you think it is the worst?
 
AssHatZombie said:
that's like advising battered women to stay in bad relationships.
economists are paid to present globalist idiot policy, as "the only way".

national sovereignty gets in the way of profit maximization.

you should have gone with bernie, he's an actual liber who understands things, and he agreed with trump on tpp.
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I voted for Bernie in the primaries.
 
Phantasmal said:
Like trade deficits, that’s not how I would phrase it, it’s just part of dealing with other countries. I just find Trump to be an uninformed hypocrite in these matters. Economist say they don’t matter. I truly don’t understand enough about the deficit, currency and trade to find a solution. I just know that Donald as the President doesn’t understand it, either.
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they matter. consider China takes about $850 out of our economy each year.
How do you think China finances it's BRI and desert cities building?
 
Cypress said:
Deja Vu.

This reminds me exactly of how things played out in the 24 months before the onset of the Great Republican Recession in 2008.

Rightwing posters singing the praises of George Dumbya Bush's economy.

Liberal posters - like Desh and UScitizen - providing ominous and prescient warnings that the Bush economy was under-regulated, over-leveraged, built on debt, and headed for an eventual crash of epic proportions.
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Let's review what happened two years prior... Democrats took control of Congress.

The deregulation occurred under Clinton, not Bush.

Republicans warned about Fannie and Freddie and liberals rushed to defend them.
 
Cypress said:
Deja Vu.

This reminds me exactly of how things played out in the 24 months before the onset of the Great Republican Recession in 2008.

Rightwing posters singing the praises of George Dumbya Bush's economy.

Liberal posters - like Desh and UScitizen - providing ominous and prescient warnings that the Bush economy was under-regulated, over-leveraged, built on debt, and headed for an eventual crash of epic proportions.
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not the same.
there is no hosing bubble there is actual GDP growth across all sectors. interest rates are going up. all different.
Bt that doesn't mean there won't be a slowdown but that doesn't mean a crash either
 
AssHatZombie said:
its time for you to get real. your grim globalist vision is just a bad idea, dreamed up by assholes. humanity is rejecting that view. we have tools to modulate trade impacts. tariffs etc. they're just a little rusty due to globalist anti americans being in charge.
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Keep living in your world of dreams while American workers continue to lose jobs over tariffs, and Trumps tax cuts.

Trump didn’t know the GOP tax bill incentivizes business to offshore jobs:
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-did...vizes-business-to-offshore-jobs-367fe5bea9dd/
 
Superfreak said:
LMAO... markets began declining in March of 2000. Democrats blame Bush for 'crashing the economy', despite the downturn starting almost a year before he took office.

Clinton repeals glass steagall (along with vast majority of both parties in both houses of Congress), that is major factor in fake housing boom that turned into a bust. But again, that is all the fault of Bush as well.

The stupidity of comments by Desh, Cypress and yourself on these matters is rather amusing.
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Did you see Cypress' newest yesterday? He agreed that anyone who votes Republican is racist. Leaving aside he voted Republican in his youth he's also calling millions of black, asians and hispanics racist because they don't vote like him. Bad enough he doesn't understand economics but now this sh*t? I'd love to see him call LeaningRight, an actual Native American, racist. Fvcking p*ssy.
 
Superfreak said:
1) The economic growth is north of 3%, better than the past 8 years.
2) The stock market is slightly down this year, but better than 2001,2002, 2008, 2011... so clearly not the worst since 72
3) Inflation is tame, interest rates still historically low... which is far better than the double digit inflation of Carter couple with extremely high interest rates.

That is simply a few metrics that show it is not the worst. What metrics make you think it is the worst?
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Your first point is a total lie
Your second point is also not correct
Thirdly, if inflation is tame this economy is not growing.
 
cawacko said:
Did you see Cypress' newest yesterday? He agreed that anyone who votes Republican is racist. Leaving aside he voted Republican in his youth he's also calling millions of black, asians and hispanics racist because they don't vote like him. Bad enough he doesn't understand economics but now this sh*t? I'd love to see him call LeaningRight, an actual Native American, racist. Fvcking p*ssy.
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He's not well...
 
AssHatZombie said:
so what's your solution to job loss? capitulate more to china?
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The solution sure aint what we are doing now as farmers crops rot in the fields or in storage, and China increases their South American purchases.
I noted that you have failed to address the negative provisions in Trumps tax bill. Thats what happens when you throw shit up against a wall and see what will stick.
 
floridafan said:
The solution sure aint what we are doing now as farmers crops rot in the fields or in storage, and China increases their South American purchases.
I noted that you have failed to address the negative provisions in Trumps tax bill. Thats what happens when you throw shit up against a wall and see what will stick.
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so what other idea do you have? ....crickets....why you're losing.
 
floridafan said:
Your first point is a total lie
Your second point is also not correct
Thirdly, if inflation is tame this economy is not growing.
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LOL

1) The past four quarters of GDP growth were 2.3, 2.2, 4.2 and 3.5... the average is indeed north of 3%. https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth
2) Where are you getting your data? it is indeed better than each of those years at this point. https://ycharts.com/indicators/sandp_500_total_return_annual
3) seriously, you should not be talking economics. Are you saying there has been no growth in the past ten years?
 
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