You are making up an older debate I think. Please link us to this national debate to make "the pill" illegal. It had to be before my time and that's a long way back.
Does anyone here think Birthcontrol Pills should be banned?
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You are making up an older debate I think. Please link us to this national debate to make "the pill" illegal. It had to be before my time and that's a long way back.
It was in the 1960's when the pill was first introduced and first got FDA approval.
Like I said; before all of our time. I was 6 years old and birth control was not on my kind. So what does this have to do with anything today?
LMAO; you're a hoot dude!
I am interested in studying how much society has progressed and how once "liberal" ideas often become mainstream and the fight is left behind as the next one is taken up.
Legality of Birth control, desegregation, Legalized interracial marriage, and now legalization of many drugs, and homosexual marriage.
maineman
Banned
as can be easily demonstrated, progressive liberalism flat out WON the 20th century. Things that were crazy ultra leftwing ideas a century ago are mainstream today.
Sign at a tea party rally : "Keep your socialist hands off my Medicare!"
lol
Many of these issues track the same line of Supreme Court cases that deal with the "right to privacy" as is so vilified by the right as its used in Row v. Wade.
Medicare is another great example....
I define social conservatism as a fear of change or progress and a fight to keep things the same even if changing would be better.
cawacko
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Interesting to know that the teachers union is made up of social conservatives.
There is one small group that follows the same thinking process but is not necessary made up of social conservatives. They, however, limit their issues to one area, education. Social Conservatives seem to try to fight all progress, until it becomes accepted, then they pretend they were never against it.
In other words, you're fine with the trashing of the Constitution by turning all citizens into wards of the Great State.
Yes, Roosevelt was very successful in implementing his Socialist Democracy onto the citizens thanks to a depression and massive global war. But it is hardly anything to celebrate unless you believe that the massive accumulation of debt, massive deficits and urban decay thanks to moral decline and government dependency is a good thing; not to mention the political corruption that such programs and penchant to spend other peoples money to win elections brings.
Leftist like you whine incessantly about inequality and poverty. Yet you do not see how these policies are a symptom of the disease.
You rant about Big Corporations yet give your politicians a pass in the misguided and ignorant belief that they care more than anyone else on the planet and the equally arrogant presumption that people are too stupid to know what is good and fair and therefore, need your well-intentioned "deciders" to steal the wealth of others for redistribution.
If you think that today's world is a sign of advancement and success, then you clearly do not see. Reality and history has never been generous to leftist ideologues.
So yes, you have advanced the erosion of the family to the extent that millions of children are raised by dysfunctional parents suffering from ignorance, drugs and sexual disease who will grow into welfare dependents incapable of fending for themselves. You have advanced the eventual bankruptcy of the state that will be born by generations to come. You have advanced the erosion of education by seeking equal outcomes and lowering standards so that no one's self esteem is hurt. You have advanced poverty and turned generations into dependent wards of the state rather than independent of the state, creating further divisions among the have and those who do not have built on a message of class envy.
Yes Socialist Progressive Liberals; it is a record to celebrate and you should OWN it so that there is little doubt for those who will suffer when it implodes of its own penchant to spend vast sums of other peoples money till there is none left to spend.
Thatcher hit the nail on the proverbial head when she opined that Socialism was an ideology where eventually you run out of other peoples money to spend.
cawacko
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Well, social security, civil rights, medicade & medicare were all passed with large bi-partisan majorities.
The teachers union is a large group who has significant power over one of the most important areas of our country. They fight any and all change. By your definition they are social conservatives.
By the time they passed they had majorities, for many years prior to passing they did not.
Not all people who fear change are social conservatives, but all social conservatives fear change. CAN YOU FOLLOW BASIC LOGIC?
It is not progress social Consevatives fight; it is the steady erosion and decline of humanity evidenced by Progressive PC Correctedness. Many like you are just too dumb to recognize it and think that test tube babies and dysfunctional single parent households can do the job of two responsible opposite sex parents committed to each other and intent on raising and nurturing adjusted children.
You celebrate a culture that finds more value in preventing the execution of a murderer than that of an unborn fetus. A culture that celebrates slavery to Government dependency rather than liberty and independence. A culture that is intollerant to Christian religious practices but quakes in fear of Muslim intollerance. A culture that seeks to prevent all from language that might offend, except for Christians.
I find it interesting when dullards on the left see this as a form of progress when it is actually a steady erosion into eventual societal decline and moral bankruptcy. But that moral bankruptcy will match the fiscal bankruptcy which is also an eventual outcome of Progressive Liberal ideology.
maineman
Banned
as a progressive liberal, I am proud to "own" the accomplishments of my ideology over the past century. Women vote now... blacks have civil rights now... there are child labor laws now... we have medicare and medicaid and social security now... workers can organize now... the environment is cleaner now... liberalism did all that.
Wrong; women's right to vote, civil rights and child labor laws were not unique to Liberal Progressives; they were the gradual changes of an educated secularist society.
Medicare and Social Security are not evidence of progress, but efforts to prolong the failures of Liberalism leading to poverty and Government dependency. They are efforts to advance the power of the State over its citizens, and SS merely to fund the massive deficits Progressive States have a penchant for and is nothing that could be construed as "secure."
Workers could always organize since the 1800s; but today a vast majority of Americans recognize the Marxist failure of Unions which is why they are in vast decline. The only area unions have had great success is in the public sector thanks to crony partisan politics and a disregard of the publics interest and conflict of interests.
Yes indeed, wrap your liberal arms about it and hold it tight so that there is no mistake about ownership.
cawacko
Well-known member
I'm just going off your words counsel.