Do conservatives really care about Kirk, or his message?

So far you've shared two stories about black people: One in which a poorly qualified person did NOT get a position and the other in which a qualified person got there by merit.

So you have defeated your own point.



Half Mexican but very white. Sounds like you did a thorough analysis. Did you get to see their papers.



Ahhh, the WHITE people who speak Spanish. They're OK, right?



Oh my! A silver mine! That must add a couple of "white points" to the person. You know, to offset all the MEXICAN.



Awwwwww. You didn't get a letter from Harvard and it's all because black people get everything and white people get nothing. Pobrecito.

Don't worry, Harvard doesn't have any white people....you wouldn't have felt at home there.




...because he was Mexican. Riiiiiiiiight. But he was only half-Mexican, right?


C'mon dude. Sometimes you just don't get your dream. Sometimes it's because you aren't actually as great as you think you are. It happens.
He tries to deny it, but SlowPain lets the mask slip on his Latino hate quite often.
 
So far you've shared two stories about black people: One in which a poorly qualified person did NOT get a position and the other in which a qualified person got there by merit.

So you have defeated your own point.
Med school entrance requirements are LESS for minority students.

For example, recent data for 2025 shows White matriculants with an average total MCAT of 512.5 and a GPA of 3.81, while Black or African American matriculants had an average MCAT of 505.7 and a GPA of 3.62.

And yet a Black student is more likely to matriculate into med school than a white student. So when you go to that neurosurgeon if you get a Black surgeon it is only natural to wonder if you got the best neurosurgeon or if he was accepted to med school with lesser qualifications. The same goes for residency progtrams too. You wonder if they were accepted because they earned their way the like Ben Carson did or if a woke program advanced them into the position.





Half Mexican but very white. Sounds like you did a thorough analysis. Did you get to see their papers.



Ahhh, the WHITE people who speak Spanish
. They're OK, right?



Oh my! A silver mine! That must add a couple of "white points" to the person. You know, to offset all the MEXICAN.
Well he did go to medical and a residency with me and he was my medical partner for several years so I do know him pretty well. And no he can't speak Spanish. :laugh:


Awwwwww. You didn't get a letter from Harvard and it's all because black people get everything and white people get nothing. Pobrecito.

Don't worry, Harvard doesn't have any white people....you wouldn't have felt at home there.
Hey I would not have gone to Harvard anyway. My wife was a federal Court reporter and the bread winner while I was in Med School. Anyway the couple docs that I have worked with from Harvard weren't that good anyway. I went to UT Southwestern my top choice for medical school because it was in Dallas and I did not have to sell my home and relocate my family. Beside if you practice in Texas going to the best medical school in Texas is an advantage.

...because he was Mexican. Riiiiiiiiight. But he was only half-Mexican, right?


C'mon dude. Sometimes you just don't get your dream. Sometimes it's because you aren't actually as great as you think you are. It happens.:laugh: I don't care if you believe me or not.

The bottom line in profession where excellence is critical merit based hiring is the best way to get the best qualified people be they be Black Brown or White. What is the matter are you afraid you can't compete?
 
I have grown to admire Charlie Kirk immensely since his tragic killing. Based on media characterizations, I thought he was some kind of hateful firebrand. I've watched, and I've learned about the man. He was what we want everyone to be. I don't care how much people disagreed w/ him - I did and do - but he wanted the marketplace of ideas. He used the Socratic method to get people to THINK, and to have calm & open dialogue about the issues.

In the past few days, what I have seen is many on the right USING his death to advance their own agenda, demonize Democrats, and sow further division in this country.

It's disgusting, and dishonors Kirk's life & legacy, imo. The irony as I read some of the comments sections on videos and articles - calling out the left for using "hateful" rhetoric, while also calling them DemonRats, communists, socialists, evil, and the enemy. Talking about Jesus Christ while warning people that their neighbors can be "enemies" (directly contradicting a very famous quote from Jesus about neighbors).

They care more about their agenda. There are so many hypocrites out there, who can't see themselves.

Millions around the world held peaceful vigils to mourn Charlie Kirk yesterday. Contrast that with the murder, rape, arson, and looting that was the response of the left after George Floyd died of the fentanyl overdose.

We who are the decent people of the world don't need to demonize the Evilcrats - what democrats are is evident to all. Evilcrats are indeed the enemy of civil discourse, the enemy of civil rights, the enemy of individual liberty. You stood up to your fellow leftist @Hume and I applaud you for that. You seem to get it. But you are the minority on the left, and if your position is sincere, will be shunned and cancelled by the left.
 
He was a hate-merchant who attacked the vulnerable. He deserves our sympathy. He did not deserve to die. But he does not deserve our admiration.

Sorry, man. You lost me on this one. Pretty fucked up of you.

Hatred and outright lies, though the standard for you of the Evilcrat Party - are not the path to power you think them to be.

Your murder of Mr. Kirk has awakened a moral outrage to the filth you peddle. We have had all we will take from you who are evil. We will NOT respond with violence - but we will protect ourselves against your violence. We will not lie about you - but we will expose your lies and call you the liars that you are. We will not loot, murder, rape, or burn as you do at any and all provocation. But we will no longer stand aside as you wage war on this nation.

The reign of evil is over. It matters not that you are too stupid to grasp it.
 
He has a right to those opinions. I disagree, but it’s his right. He treats people respectfully most of the time. He fundamentally misunderstands big chunks of the Constitution.

Everything Leech posted is an outright lie. Kirk said not one thing on that list.

Leech thinks that slander and demagoguery will still work. He is simply too stupid to grasp what has been awoken in the world. Not just this country - millions in London, Seoul, Mumbai. etc. turned out to hold peaceful vigils yesterday.

The old way of just lying, flinging shit to smear the decent people is over. Evil will have to again retreat to the shadows - your time is over.
 
Some points for peckerwood boy
  • Civil Rights Act of 1964: Kirk called the passage of this landmark legislation a "mistake" and an "anti-white weapon".
  • Black pilots: In 2024, Kirk stated, "If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified'".
  • Kirk was accused of antisemitism for promoting "replacement theory". In 2023, he claimed Jewish donors were funding "anti-whiteness" by supporting liberal causes and that Jews controlled Hollywood and other institutions. Fox News issued a correction regarding one report on his statements about Jewish people.
  • Violence against LGBTQ+ people: In 2023, Kirk commented that people should have "just took care of" transgender people "the way we used to take care of things in the 1950s and 60s," a period marked by police violence and institutionalization against queer people. A reporter also recalled him referencing a Bible passage that calls for stoning gay people to death.

Prove any claim?

Ah but you can't - you're a fucking liar - a Heinrich Himmler level demagogue spewing filth. You who are evil will not be able to continue to lie - you have awakened the decent people in the world - and we will oppose your bile and hate.

Slink back to your sewer.
 
Yeah, he has a right to say, "Gay people should be stoned to death". Very respectful. You're full of shit.

But you don't have the right to outright lie that he said it.

You are a fucking liar - a Nazi level demagogue knowingly slandering those you fear - even after you - those like you - murdered him.

Begone evil one - your time is done.
 
OMG. We've shown you actual footage of Kirk saying his incendiary comments and this is what you think?
No worries. All MAGAts are lying scumbags who will gaslight their own mothers if it turns a profit for them.

Kirk was worth $12M when he died. All bilked from racist, misogynistic and/or fearful cowards who turned toward White Christian Nationalism as a solution to their desires.

Charlie Kirk was best known for founding Turning Point USA in 2012. The conservative nonprofit organization has affiliates, including Turning Point News, Turning Point Action, the Turning Point Endowment, and Students for Trump. Turning Point USA has a Professor Watchlist that lists college professors who allegedly "discriminate against conservative students, promote anti-American values and advance leftist propaganda in the classroom." The organization has been accused of attempting to influence student government elections and engaging in racist practices and illegal involvement in the 2016 presidential election. Turning Point USA is listed as an alt-lite organization by the Anti-Defamation League and was called a far-right organization by CBS News. Charlie founded the organization when he was 18 years old, and in 2019, he created a new 501(c)(4) organization called Turning Point Action, which is a political action committee intended to target Democrats.

Kirk hosts and produces the radio program "The Charlie Kirk Show," and he has published the books "Time for a Turning Point: Setting a Course Toward Free Markets and Limited Government for Future Generations" (2016), "Campus Battlefield: How Conservatives Can WIN the Battle on Campus and Why It Matters" (2018), and "The MAGA Doctrine: The Only Ideas That Will Win the Future" (2020). He also produced the 2021 TV special "Freedom Night in America feat. Charlie Kirk & Eric Metaxas at Dream City Church in Phoenix LIVE."


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I have grown to admire Charlie Kirk immensely since his tragic killing. Based on media characterizations, I thought he was some kind of hateful firebrand. I've watched, and I've learned about the man. He was what we want everyone to be. I don't care how much people disagreed w/ him - I did and do - but he wanted the marketplace of ideas. He used the Socratic method to get people to THINK, and to have calm & open dialogue about the issues.

In the past few days, what I have seen is many on the right USING his death to advance their own agenda, demonize Democrats, and sow further division in this country.

It's disgusting, and dishonors Kirk's life & legacy, imo. The irony as I read some of the comments sections on videos and articles - calling out the left for using "hateful" rhetoric, while also calling them DemonRats, communists, socialists, evil, and the enemy. Talking about Jesus Christ while warning people that their neighbors can be "enemies" (directly contradicting a very famous quote from Jesus about neighbors).

They care more about their agenda. There are so many hypocrites out there, who can't see themselves.
Given you judged him based on media characterization you are part of the problem. How many other misconceptions do you have based on media propaganda?
 
THE ONLY REASON they think that is because SOME people are put in their position because of the COLOR of their skin. Do you think Claudine Gay became President because the body of her work or by DEI. She checked off the female and Black box and they ignored her weak body of work and the fact that she plagiarized what little work that she did.

True Ben Carson is a case in point. The POINT is people don't know if their Black neurosurgeon is a Ben Carson or a Claudine Gay like DEI hire. .



Not true.



It is true not all white men are competent.

It was a true story. I also had a Black girl in my med school class that did very well. She was in the top 10% but she got there by merit. She had a 3.9 GPA and a 51 MCAT. I know this because she was in our study group and was a close friend.

I also had a friend in medical school and now my former partner that was half Mexican (technically) although he was very white. His mother was from two Spanish parents from Spain. His mother was born in Mexico where her father ran a silver mine. Anyway I had a better GPA and MCAT than he did but Harvard sent him a invitation to interview and sent me nothing. :laugh: He wanted to stay in Texas so he ended up at UT Southwestern where I went. He did get a full ride 4 year scholarship to med school because he was Mexican though. :rofl2:
THE ONLY REASON they think that is because SOME people are put in their position because of the COLOR of their skin. Do you think Claudine Gay became President because the body of her work or by DEI. She checked off the female and Black box and they ignored her weak body of work and the fact that she plagiarized what little work that she did.

True Ben Carson is a case in point. The POINT is people don't know if their Black neurosurgeon is a Ben Carson or a Claudine Gay like DEI hire. .



Not true.



It is true not all white men are competent.

It was a true story. I also had a Black girl in my med school class that did very well. She was in the top 10% but she got there by merit. She had a 3.9 GPA and a 51 MCAT. I know this because she was in our study group and was a close friend.

I also had a friend in medical school and now my former partner that was half Mexican (technically) although he was very white. His mother was from two Spanish parents from Spain. His mother was born in Mexico where her father ran a silver mine. Anyway I had a better GPA and MCAT than he did but Harvard sent him a invitation to interview and sent me nothing. :laugh: He wanted to stay in Texas so he ended up at UT Southwestern where I went. He did get a full ride 4 year scholarship to med school because he was Mexican though. :rofl2:

Where is Claudine Gay now?
 
Millions around the world held peaceful vigils to mourn Charlie Kirk yesterday. Contrast that with the murder, rape, arson, and looting that was the response of the left after George Floyd died of the fentanyl overdose.

We who are the decent people of the world don't need to demonize the Evilcrats - what democrats are is evident to all. Evilcrats are indeed the enemy of civil discourse, the enemy of civil rights, the enemy of individual liberty. You stood up to your fellow leftist @Hume and I applaud you for that. You seem to get it. But you are the minority on the left, and if your position is sincere, will be shunned and cancelled by the left.
FB_IMG_1757923618894.jpgDublin Ohio...thousands gathered
 
Nothing personally. I'm saying that trump has a double standard. trump would treat the death of a liberal commentator with silence or some tepid comment about violence. He'd never put on a display like he's doing for Kirk. And conservatives would celebrate the liberal's death on social media.
well, we've already seen trump do that at least once, probably more. SOME conservatives would celebrate a liberals death on social media.........we've seen that before as well.
 
1757946873481.pngMy vision of GOD....on the day of Judgement, we sit before God with this huge TV screen and our entire life is presented from the day we are born til the day we die. Question? Do you really believe ol Charlie ain't gonna wanna excuse himself? Just askin
 
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