Do Cons belive its time to take up arms?

Wow Cawacko, you supported the Iraq War and yet went to three anti-war rallies? I'm impressed....and confused!

Property damage is uncool. But, getting massively pissed off about an illegal and immoral war that results in oceans of bloodshed is in a different universe that going ballistic and threatening people's families over health care.

Now, I could understand if some wingnuts broke windows to protest the Ruby Ridge incident, or some fucked up crap like that. But busting windows and threatening peoples wives and children over health care? Hey man, no liberal was destroying property or theatening anyone's wife over the Bush tax cuts, the Bush gutting of environmental laws, or a host of other wingnut domestic policy initiatives.

Maybe it's just being a political junkie but I wanted to see what the rallies were all about. They were also only 10 minutes away from me so it was easy to get to. I'm really glad I went.

According to the local media the violence was done by splinter anarchist groups. So if I'm being intellectually honest with myself I can't claim those splinter groups speak for all anti-war people at the rally just like I wouldn't say some bad apples at the tea party rallys speak for all the people there.
 
Maybe it's just being a political junkie but I wanted to see what the rallies were all about. They were also only 10 minutes away from me so it was easy to get to. I'm really glad I went.

According to the local media the violence was done by splinter anarchist groups. So if I'm being intellectually honest with myself I can't claim those splinter groups speak for all anti-war people at the rally just like I wouldn't say some bad apples at the tea party rallys speak for all the people there.

C'mon man, I know you went because you thought those PETA ladies - the one's who take off their shirts and bras - would be there. I know you man.


Ha, j/k. I can totally understand wanting to check it out. I'd probably go look at a Tea Bag protest if there was one nearby, merely out of morbid curiosity, and the possibility of getting a great laugh.

yeah man, I know there were anarchists who showed up at a few of those anti-war protests. They're a bunch of kids who like to get attention. And the fact of the matter is, I don't think these KKK-types at the Tea Bag parties represent the majority of tea baggers. I can't imagine the majority of teabaggers actually feeling good about yelling nigger and fag at Congressmen or congresswomen. My deal, is that they should not be made to feel comfortable at tea bag parties. And silence, or worse - pretending that these bubbas are liberal "infiltrators" - is enabling of that crapola
 
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I've said it many times, defending the constitution foreign or domestic. any issues with that?
Yea....I have a problem with that. Who gets to define what a domestic enemy is? Some insane libertarian group like the michigan militia? Fuck that!

I'd be one of the first ones they'd shoot....and I'm a moderate!!
 
C'mon man, I know you went because you thought those PETA ladies - the one's who take off their shirts and bras - would be there. I know you man.


Ha, j/k. I can totally understand wanting to check it out. I'd probably go look at a Tea Bag protest if there was one nearby, merely out of morbid curiosity, and the possibility of getting a great laugh.

yeah man, I know there were anarchists who showed up at a few of those anti-war protests. They're a bunch of kids who like to get attention. And the fact of the matter is, I don't think these KKK-types at the Tea Bag parties represent the majority of tea baggers. I can't imagine the majority of teabaggers actually feeling good about yelling nigger and fag at Congressmen or congresswomen. My deal, is that they should not be made to feel comfortable at tea bag parties. And silence, or worse - pretending that these are liberal "infiltrators" - is an enabling of that crapola


Haha, yes women are always at the forefront (sp?) of what I'm thinking. In fact if I could have gotten a number or two at those three events considering the circumstances that might have been my greatest accomplishment yet! Alas it was not to be.
 
in the famous sorta words of Archie Bunker, 'would it make you any happier, little girl, if they were getting shot at?'

they are getting their warnings right now. they can either heed them and fix the inestimable damage they are causing, or things will escalate. its' pretty damned simple actually.

mark my words, you dems and libs will not listen. you will rely on the thuggish enforcement tactics of the FBI, ATF, and DHS, to protect your fraidy cat little asses, but the first groups of people that are hauled off or killed by the US government forces marks the escalation. At that point, the gunfire and bombings will likely start. You think the murrah building was bad, its gonna get worse. welcome to your nightmare.
well either that or your just plain wrong, that this is much needed reform that will greatly benefit our people and these people are simply just thugs who should be arrested and tried for any criminal acts they commit.
 
Wow Cawacko, you supported the Iraq War and yet went to three anti-war rallies? I'm impressed....and confused!

Property damage is uncool. But, getting massively pissed off about an illegal and immoral war that results in oceans of bloodshed is in a different universe that going ballistic and threatening people's families over health care.

Now, I could understand if some wingnuts broke windows to protest the Ruby Ridge incident, or some fucked up crap like that. But busting windows and threatening peoples wives and children over health care? Hey man, no liberal was destroying property or theatening anyone's wife over the Bush tax cuts, the Bush gutting of environmental laws, or a host of other wingnut domestic policy initiatives.
I know what you mean. That's why I call him Wacko. I mean hell, he was born and raised in Ohio but still roots for USC. The mans twisted I'm telling ya!
 
Yea....I have a problem with that. Who gets to define what a domestic enemy is? Some insane libertarian group like the michigan militia? Fuck that!

I'd be one of the first ones they'd shoot....and I'm a moderate!!

I wouldn't really worry about anyone from Michigan shooting straight.
 
Yea....I have a problem with that. Who gets to define what a domestic enemy is? Some insane libertarian group like the michigan militia? Fuck that!
I'd consider their judgement a hell of a lot saner than anyone in the federal government. At least we have americas best interests in mind. the feds just have their interests in mind.

I'd be one of the first ones they'd shoot....and I'm a moderate!!
doubtful, but you believe what you want to.
 
I know what you mean. That's why I call him Wacko. I mean hell, he was born and raised in Ohio but still roots for USC. The mans twisted I'm telling ya!


If I'm not mistaken, wacky went to USC, that's why he's down with USC. When it comes to college football, loyalty to alma mater supercedes loyalty to birth place.


As for me, my college football loyalties - such as they are - are flexible, depending on where I'm living at the time. And whether they have a cool name.

Go UC-Santa Cruz Banana Slugs!
 
If I'm not mistaken, wacky went to USC, that's why he's down with USC. When it comes to college football, loyalty to alma mater supercedes loyalty to birth place.


As for me, my college football loyalties - such as they are - are flexible, depending on where I'm living at the time. And whether they have a cool name.

Go UC-Santa Cruz Banana Slugs!

Banana Slugs is a cool mascot!

I was at Whole (Paycheck) Foods earlier this week with a SC Trojans sweatshirt on and the gal at the checkout stand asked me if that was Santa Cruz. I laughed for a second picturing me at that school but this was a girl from a small town next to Chico with earrings coming out of every possible place on her head. She was cool though, talked to her for a few minutes while holding up the line.
 
Banana Slugs is a cool mascot!

I was at Whole (Paycheck) Foods earlier this week with a SC Trojans sweatshirt on and the gal at the checkout stand asked me if that was Santa Cruz. I laughed for a second picturing me at that school but this was a girl from a small town next to Chico with earrings coming out of every possible place on her head. She was cool though, talked to her for a few minutes while holding up the line.


Wow, a total faux pas to mix up the Banana Slugs with the Trojans. That totally sounds like something some valley rube from chico would say.


Banana Slugs = Best. College. Mascot. Ever.
 
Let me tell you little Socialist punks something... If you think America is going to sit back and let the chicanery that's happening in Washington continue unabated, you've got another thing coming. People are MAD... MAD AS HELL over this, and the continued attitude of this Congress, and it's arrogant assumption that it doesn't have to listen to the people who elected it! You want to violate the Constitutional rights of half of America or more, and think you can pull that off, you fucking go for it punk! You'll be put down like the rabid animals you are, if that is the case!

There are a LOT of people out here, FED UP! Disgusted with YOU and your partisan political bullshit! We are growing sick and tired of being called "TEABAGGERS" and denigrated personally for believing in God or owning a Gun or Pickup truck! Mostly, we are sick of you trying to seize control of power to implement outright Marxist Socialism on America against their will! Americans will not stand for this shit! I promise you that! I am not going to tell you when that time is coming, you will know a second after the bullet penetrates your empty skull! But this country is nearing that tipping point, and you fuckwits better either realize that or get your affairs in order.

Yup, Dixie, you can go back on it now... I know it was a bit over the top even for you!
 
Let me tell you little Socialist punks something... If you think America is going to sit back and let the chicanery that's happening in Washington continue unabated, you've got another thing coming. People are MAD... MAD AS HELL over this, and the continued attitude of this Congress, and it's arrogant assumption that it doesn't have to listen to the people who elected it! You want to violate the Constitutional rights of half of America or more, and think you can pull that off, you fucking go for it punk! You'll be put down like the rabid animals you are, if that is the case!

There are a LOT of people out here, FED UP! Disgusted with YOU and your partisan political bullshit! We are growing sick and tired of being called "TEABAGGERS" and denigrated personally for believing in God or owning a Gun or Pickup truck! Mostly, we are sick of you trying to seize control of power to implement outright Marxist Socialism on America against their will! Americans will not stand for this shit! I promise you that! I am not going to tell you when that time is coming, you will know a second after the bullet penetrates your empty skull! But this country is nearing that tipping point, and you fuckwits better either realize that or get your affairs in order.

TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS, TEABAGGERS,

Im ready for that bulleit now!!!???!!???
 
Let me tell you little Socialist punks something... If you think America is going to sit back and let the chicanery that's happening in Washington continue unabated, you've got another thing coming. People are MAD... MAD AS HELL over this, and the continued attitude of this Congress, and it's arrogant assumption that it doesn't have to listen to the people who elected it! You want to violate the Constitutional rights of half of America or more, and think you can pull that off, you fucking go for it punk! You'll be put down like the rabid animals you are, if that is the case!

There are a LOT of people out here, FED UP! Disgusted with YOU and your partisan political bullshit! We are growing sick and tired of being called "TEABAGGERS" and denigrated personally for believing in God or owning a Gun or Pickup truck! Mostly, we are sick of you trying to seize control of power to implement outright Marxist Socialism on America against their will! Americans will not stand for this shit! I promise you that! I am not going to tell you when that time is coming, you will know a second after the bullet penetrates your empty skull! But this country is nearing that tipping point, and you fuckwits better either realize that or get your affairs in order.

Bump
 
..."1. White powder and swastikas were mailed to Rep. Grijalva. On October 21, an envelope containing “a plastic bag of white powder and two pieces of paper with swastikas written on them” was reportedly mailed to Rep. Raul Grijalva’s (D-AZ) campaign office. The powder was determined to be non-toxic.


2. Byron Williams set out to kill people at Tides Foundation and ACLU. On July 18, Byron Williams was stopped by California Highway Patrol and engaged in a shootout with law enforcement. He later said he planned to murder individuals at the Tides Foundation and ACLU. His mother said he was angry about “Congress railroading through all these left-wing agenda items.” As reporter John Hamilton documented, Williams said he saw Fox News’ Glenn Beck as “a schoolteacher” and that “it was the things [Beck] exposed that blew my mind.” Indeed, the gunman, Byron Williams, was driven by belief in conspiracy theories that have been pushed by Beck and other members of the right-wing media.

3. AZ federal judge threatened, Grijalva office fired on after ruling on AZ immigration law. Politico reported in July:

Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) said in a statement he shut down his Yuma district office after staff members discovered a bullet had shattered a window there Thursday. And authorities said U.S. Judge Susan Bolton received hundreds of threats at her downtown Phoenix court offices after issuing the injunction, according to news reports.

4. Phoenix man indicted for alleged murder threats against Grijalva and his aides. The Yuma Sun reported on June 14 that a Phoenix man was indicted on federal charges for “allegedly threatening to kill U.S. Rep. Raul Grijalva in late April, over Grijalva’s opposition to the state’s new immigration law.” The article added: “Prosecutors say Haynes is accused of calling Grijalva’s office in Tucson twice on April 23 and threatening to ‘come down there and blow the brains out’ of Grijalva and his employees.”

5. Man arrested for allegedly threatening to kill Sen. Patty Murray. Politico reported on April 6:

Charles Alan Wilson, 64, was arrested at his home in central Washington after he allegedly called Murray’s office on numerous occasions over the last few weeks saying that she “had a target on her back, ” and “I want to [expletive] kill you,” according to court documents. The alleged phone calls stretched over almost two weeks and were said to be in relation to Murray’s vote to pass health care overhaul legislation.

Wilson, who was arrested in Selah, Wash., also allegedly told undercover FBI agents that he carries a concealed firearm with a permit, and said he was “extremely angry” with the passage of health care legislation, according to the news release. If convicted, Wilson could face up to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

6. Members of right-wing militia group arrested for allegedly plotting overthrow of the U.S. government. Nine members of the “Hutaree militia” were arrested in March and charged with plotting a violent uprising against the U.S. government, a plot that was to begin with an attack on law enforcement personnel. The Southern Poverty Law Center has called the Hutaree militia as a member of the radical right-wing patriot movement.

7. AP: Man arrested for allegedly making threatening phone calls to Pelosi. The AP reported that in the days after the vote on the health care reform bill, “The FBI arrested a California man Wednesday for allegedly making threatening phone calls to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.”

8. Threats made against Rep. Betsy Markey. A Denver television station reported that Rep. Betsy Markey’s (D-CO) chief of staff “said the calls came on Saturday before the House cast its final vote on health care reform. She said in the first, the caller said to one of Markey’s staff members, ‘better hope I don’t run into you in a dark alley with a knife, a club or a gun.’ In another instance, a caller said something like ‘better tell your boss that she better be careful when she comes back here to Colorado.’”

9. Gas line outside the house of the brother of Rep. Tom Perriello was cut. Rep. Tom Perriello’s (D-VA) brother’s address was erroneously posted online by a Tea Party blogger who invited activists to descend on the house. In March, a gas line outside the brother’s house was cut.

10. Threats made against Rep. Stupak after he voted for final version of health care bill. Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) was the target of threatening faxes and phone calls, includingdeath threats. Some of the faxes included “racial epithets used in reference to President Obama,” according to CBS News.

11. Picture of a noose faxed to Rep. Clyburn. Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC), the Majority Whip, said in a March interview on CNN that his office had received a fax of a noose after he voted in favor of the health care reform bill.

12. Brick thrown at Democratic county headquarters in Rochester, NY. New York Daily News reported on March 22 that, after the House health care vote, a “brick, to which a piece of paper bearing the message “Extremism is defense of liberty is no vice” was attached with a rubber band” was thrown through the headquarters of the Democratic county headquarters in Rochester, New York.

13. Rep. Slaughter threatened with brick and “snipers.” CNN reported on March 24: “Rep. Louise Slaughter, D-New York, said her Niagara Falls district office had a brick thrown through one of its windows and a message that referred to ‘snipers’ was left on one of her campaign offices.”

14. Rep. Giffords’ office window shattered. CNN reported that in March, “a glass panel at the Tucson office of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Arizona, was shattered, spokesman C.J. Karamargin said. It wasn’t clear how the window was shattered, but visitors have to go through a gated courtyard to enter the office, and staffers suspect someone may have shot a pellet gun at the glass, he said.”

15. White powder mailed to Rep. Weiner with “drop dead” message. NBC News reported on March 26:

Authorities are investigating a package with white powder and an angry letter that referenced the health care legislation that was sent to Congressman Weiner’s Kew Gardens office today.

The letter said the Congressman should “drop dead” and complained about the historic health care legislation passed by Congress this week.

Preliminary field tests showed the white powder was harmless.

16. Rep. Driehaus threatened and right-wing blogger publishes his home address. Politico reported on March 24 that a right-wing blogger had published the home address of Rep. Steve Driehaus (D-OH) and asked protestors to show up at his house. In addition, Driehaus reportedly received death threats.

17. Brick thrown through window of Witchita County Democrats’ offices. The Kansas City Star reported in March:

Mike Vanderboegh of Pinson, Ala., former leader of the Alabama Constitutional Militia, put out a call on Friday for modern “Sons of Liberty” to break the windows of Democratic Party offices nationwide in opposition to health care reform. Since then, vandals have struck several offices, including the Sedgwick County Democratic Party headquarters in Wichita.

“There’s glass everywhere,” said Lyndsay Stauble, executive director of the Sedgwick County Democratic Party. “A brick took out the whole floor-to-ceiling window and put a gouge in my desk.”

Stauble said the brick, hurled through the window between Friday night and Saturday morning, had “some anti-Obama rhetoric” written on it..."

http://nocureforthat.wordpress.com/...nstances-of-recent-violence-by-conservatives/

I wonder why anyone would think a Teabagger would commit a violent act?
 
DIXIE, do you understand rhetoric like you posted in this thread has consiquences?
 
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