Dixie, you sure have been quiet about the meltdown of your canidate Cain... Whatsup?

PostmodernProphet said:
???...for which?.....are you saying you were unaware this was first reported by Politico or are you saying you were unaware Politico is a liberal source........
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Before today I had never heard of Politico. I dont care who the origional source was unless it was a false report.
 
Alias said:
The one who played the race card is the one who started this. It's the same type of crap used on Clarance Thomas.
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Ok, let me get this stright, if a Liberal says something is racial, thats him playing the race card. If a Conservative says something is racial, thats those who brought it up in the first place playing the race card... Do I have it stright?
 
Dixie said:
SPRINGFIELD, Mo. (AP) - Democrat Barack Obama, the first black candidate with a shot at winning the White House, says John McCain and his Republican allies will try to scare them by saying Obama "doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills."

Obama often makes references to his distinctions as a candidate, such as saying there are doubts among some voters because he has "a funny name." At times he refers to his race as well, saying he looks different that any previous candidate but then adding that the differences are not just about race. Addressing supporters Tuesday night at a fundraiser in Springfield, he said, "It's a leap, electing a 46-year-old black guy named Barack Obama."


Was Obama "playing the race card" here, Jughead? I don't recall you chastising him for it... maybe I missed it?
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1) They do it too is not a valid argument?
2) Trying to justify charges against you by screaming race is different than evaluating how a campaign is going to go. BTW, Obama was wrong McCain was more honorable than to had done that.
 
Jarod said:
1) They do it too is not a valid argument?
2) Trying to justify charges against you by screaming race is different than evaluating how a campaign is going to go. BTW, Obama was wrong McCain was more honorable than to had done that.
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So you agree that Obama did the same thing Herman Cain did? But, was it "playing the race card" or being candidly honest about what is the truth? I really think we need to clarify what constitutes "playing the race card" here, because we can't just make everything someone ever says regarding race or racism, be considered as "playing the race card." We need some kind of distinction, which we can all clearly agree, is over the line, and constitutes "playing the race card" or "racism" for that matter. I don't think Cain stepped over the line, he said something that was completely honest and correct, and he was not blaming anyone specifically for being racist, he even said as much.
 
Jarod said:
Ill say it again, I dont care about what he did, and I havent seen any Democrats saying they do. I care if he is not handeling a crisis well, because if he gets to be President he will have to handel cirsises....
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You mean like how to get a stain off of a blue dress?
 
Jarod said:
1) They do it too is not a valid argument?
2) Trying to justify charges against you by screaming race is different than evaluating how a campaign is going to go. BTW, Obama was wrong McCain was more honorable than to had done that.
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jarod claims obama never played the race card and when shown he has, lashes out like a child
 
Dixie said:
So you agree that Obama did the same thing Herman Cain did? But, was it "playing the race card" or being candidly honest about what is the truth? I really think we need to clarify what constitutes "playing the race card" here, because we can't just make everything someone ever says regarding race or racism, be considered as "playing the race card." We need some kind of distinction, which we can all clearly agree, is over the line, and constitutes "playing the race card" or "racism" for that matter. I don't think Cain stepped over the line, he said something that was completely honest and correct, and he was not blaming anyone specifically for being racist, he even said as much.
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No, I agree you claim President Obama did the same thing as Cain.

The way I see it, they both used race to a different degree and for different resons.
 
Dixie said:
And as for the "handling" of this, please do tell us, what exactly IS the appropriate way to handle such a thing? People keep saying Cain hasn't handled this well... but what the hell is he supposed to do? Suspend his campaign, stop talking about his 999 plan or any of his ideas, and focus intensely for the next two weeks on merely answering the same silly redundant questions about this, over and over again? Some of you brilliant political Einsteins tell me, what would YOU have done differently here? The way I see it, Cain has handled it appropriately, he issued the statement that the allegations are false, he did nothing inappropriate, and there is nothing to this. There is nothing more he can say or do about it, and it's best he get back on message and not allow this to become a distraction. That is what he has done... so, how has he "handled it poorly?"
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He shouldn't have said he didn't remember. He was asked if he was accused of sexual harassment. Usually a person would remember such a thing happening considering there was a payout. Now, whether he paid or the Restaurant Association paid Cain, being the Head Honcho , would have known about it.

He should have said there was an "incident" but it was settled. Or an allegation was made but it was resolved. Or.....

The point being he wasn't forthcoming and it looks like he had something to hide.

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Dixie said:
Okay, let's remove ourselves from Liberal La-la-Land for a minute, and rejoin reality... a "sexual harassment allegation" can result over something as insignificant and innocent as a compliment or nice gesture. I know this first hand, because someone I personally know, had to go through it. The guy is stone cold in love with his wife and would NEVER cheat, the idea never crossed his mind... there was a fairly attractive receptionist who worked for a company who was his client, and he talked to her almost daily, when he visited his client. She had recently been dumped by her boyfriend on Valentines Day, of all days...a story she shared with him on her own. He really felt sorry for her more than anything, and so he sent her some flowers and a card, the card had a poem about life...some inspirational crap... nothing romantic. The next day, his supervisor called him into the office to discuss a "sexual harassment" incident. Obviously, he had done nothing inappropriate, he thought he was being considerate and nice, nothing more... she interpreted it as "sexual harassment" and lodged a complaint. His supervisor explained, there was nothing he could do, he was obligated to follow up. There was never a charge made, the guy didn't get fired, and I don't know if the woman ever got paid off or whatnot, but it was a bunch of trumped up bullshit about nothing, all because he tried to do something nice for someone he felt sympathy for. I'm not saying this is the case with Cain, I don't know the details, but to automatically jump to the conclusion that Cain did something inappropriate on the basis someone claimed "sexual harassment" is absurd and patently unfair.

This surfaced from the Perry camp. One of Perry's top advisers worked for Cain during his 2004 Senate run, and had just recently joined the Perry team. Cain had briefed him on the incident in 2004, so he certainly had the information. Perry has had serious trouble gaining traction and catching Romney, and the more debates he flubbed, the more Herman Cain began to emerge as the challenger to Romney which Perry had hoped to be, so it all makes perfect political sense that it came from Perry.

And as for the "handling" of this, please do tell us, what exactly IS the appropriate way to handle such a thing? People keep saying Cain hasn't handled this well... but what the hell is he supposed to do? Suspend his campaign, stop talking about his 999 plan or any of his ideas, and focus intensely for the next two weeks on merely answering the same silly redundant questions about this, over and over again? Some of you brilliant political Einsteins tell me, what would YOU have done differently here? The way I see it, Cain has handled it appropriately, he issued the statement that the allegations are false, he did nothing inappropriate, and there is nothing to this. There is nothing more he can say or do about it, and it's best he get back on message and not allow this to become a distraction. That is what he has done... so, how has he "handled it poorly?"
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apple0154 said:
He shouldn't have said he didn't remember. He was asked if he was accused of sexual harassment. Usually a person would remember such a thing happening considering there was a payout. Now, whether he paid or the Restaurant Association paid Cain, being the Head Honcho , would have known about it.

He should have said there was an "incident" but it was settled. Or an allegation was made but it was resolved. Or.....

The point being he wasn't forthcoming and it looks like he had something to hide.

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So now you're changing your defense of Clinton and are saying that he should have admitted that he had sex with Monica, when he was first asked.
 
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