Dixie, you sure have been quiet about the meltdown of your canidate Cain... Whatsup?

Dixie said:
Because, here you are, about to piss yourself over this silly story about Cain flirting with a woman... while your guy, Bill Clinton, did FAR FAR worse than anything Cain has even been accused of, and you told us that was his personal life and had nothing to do with him doing his job. In fact, there are numerous examples of infidelity on part of Democrats, left and right... from FDR, JFK, MLK, all the way to Anthony Weiner... and it's routinely swept under the rug or dismissed as no big deal, didn't effect how they did their job, nothing to see here... move along. It's when it involves a black Conservative, like Cain or Clarence Thomas, that's when all of a sudden, this is a big deal and we all have to pay attention and hold people accountable and get to the bottom of it.
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Infidelity and sexual harassment are not the same thing.
 
The Dude said:
Cain is sinking faster than Greek debt
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Really? You have some inside connection with the pollsters or something? Because, I haven't seen where he is dropping in the polls, he seems to be as popular as ever, and his campaign reports an increase in contributions... if he's sinking, it sure doesn't look like any sinker I've ever seen. But of course, with your unbiased and professional word on this, we can take it to heart I'm sure!
 
You think the Democrats are behind this, Dixie? You're delusional. Democrats wouldn't spend their time/resources on Cain this early in the game. Cain is not even considered a threat to Obama. I guarantee one of the other Republican campaigns is behind this, and it doesn't take much imagination to figure out who that might be...

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/10/herman-cain-texas-poll-rick-perry-/1

It all seems so familiar...

http://www.thenation.com/article/dirty-tricks-south-carolina-and-john-mccain
 
Thor said:
You think the Democrats are behind this, Dixie? You're delusional. Democrats wouldn't spend their time/resources on Cain this early in the game. Cain is not even considered a threat to Obama. I guarantee one of the other Republican campaigns is behind this, and it doesn't take much imagination to figure out who that might be...

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/10/herman-cain-texas-poll-rick-perry-/1

It all seems so familiar...

http://www.thenation.com/article/dirty-tricks-south-carolina-and-john-mccain
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Actually he said he thought Perry was behind it and while I have no idea if forced to guess I would say Perry too.
 
Thor said:
You think the Democrats are behind this, Dixie? You're delusional. Democrats wouldn't spend their time/resources on Cain this early in the game. Cain is not even considered a threat to Obama. I guarantee one of the other Republican campaigns is behind this, and it doesn't take much imagination to figure out who that might be...

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/10/herman-cain-texas-poll-rick-perry-/1

It all seems so familiar...

http://www.thenation.com/article/dirty-tricks-south-carolina-and-john-mccain
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What's the deal here? I have not said that I think Democrats are behind this, it would be kind of stupid if they were... why not wait until he was nominated to roll this out? No... it came from Perry's camp, because Perry has two former Cain staffers on his staff, and one of them knew of this because Cain had briefed him on it previously. But let's not act like this doesn't happen all the time in politics on BOTH sides... Barack's birth certificate issue arose from the camp of Hillary Clinton... or as I like to call her, the Mother of the Birther Movement! I think some of Bill's earlier sex scandals came out through his Democrat opposition as well... so it happens on both sides.

Still... I can't figure out why you retards keep reading me posting something I haven't posted. Brain damage, maybe?
 
Dixie said:
Because, here you are, about to piss yourself over this silly story about Cain flirting with a woman... while your guy, Bill Clinton, did FAR FAR worse than anything Cain has even been accused of, and you told us that was his personal life and had nothing to do with him doing his job. In fact, there are numerous examples of infidelity on part of Democrats, left and right... from FDR, JFK, MLK, all the way to Anthony Weiner... and it's routinely swept under the rug or dismissed as no big deal, didn't effect how they did their job, nothing to see here... move along. It's when it involves a black Conservative, like Cain or Clarence Thomas, that's when all of a sudden, this is a big deal and we all have to pay attention and hold people accountable and get to the bottom of it.
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Ill say it again, I dont care about what he did, and I havent seen any Democrats saying they do. I care if he is not handeling a crisis well, because if he gets to be President he will have to handel cirsises....
 
Dixie said:
And oh by the way, can you please link me to some site that isn't obsessed with smearing Cain... this site's first 20 stories are about Herman Cain, and none of them are positive. I like to have information from sources who at least pretend to be non-biased.
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I dont know why they took it down, it took me about .02 seconds to find another one... you can find it just as fast if you care to know the truth about your canidate.

http://newsone.com/nation/newsonestaff2/herman-cain-racism-2/
 
PostmodernProphet said:
Politico is "Republicans"?..........
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I personally do not know what Politico is, but I doubt it is Republicans or Democrats. Are they attacking Cain for allegations of Sexual Harrassment or are they reporting on the allegations? It seems that the attacks have come from Romney and the media, including FOX NEWS is reporting it.
 
Jarod said:
I personally do not know what Politico is, but I doubt it is Republicans or Democrats. Are they attacking Cain for allegations of Sexual Harrassment or are they reporting on the allegations? It seems that the attacks have come from Romney and the media, including FOX NEWS is reporting it.
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they were the source of the allegations......and yes.....Democrats.......
 
Jarod said:
I personally do not know what Politico is, but I doubt it is Republicans or Democrats. Are they attacking Cain for allegations of Sexual Harrassment or are they reporting on the allegations? It seems that the attacks have come from Romney and the media, including FOX NEWS is reporting it.
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Okay, let's remove ourselves from Liberal La-la-Land for a minute, and rejoin reality... a "sexual harassment allegation" can result over something as insignificant and innocent as a compliment or nice gesture. I know this first hand, because someone I personally know, had to go through it. The guy is stone cold in love with his wife and would NEVER cheat, the idea never crossed his mind... there was a fairly attractive receptionist who worked for a company who was his client, and he talked to her almost daily, when he visited his client. She had recently been dumped by her boyfriend on Valentines Day, of all days...a story she shared with him on her own. He really felt sorry for her more than anything, and so he sent her some flowers and a card, the card had a poem about life...some inspirational crap... nothing romantic. The next day, his supervisor called him into the office to discuss a "sexual harassment" incident. Obviously, he had done nothing inappropriate, he thought he was being considerate and nice, nothing more... she interpreted it as "sexual harassment" and lodged a complaint. His supervisor explained, there was nothing he could do, he was obligated to follow up. There was never a charge made, the guy didn't get fired, and I don't know if the woman ever got paid off or whatnot, but it was a bunch of trumped up bullshit about nothing, all because he tried to do something nice for someone he felt sympathy for. I'm not saying this is the case with Cain, I don't know the details, but to automatically jump to the conclusion that Cain did something inappropriate on the basis someone claimed "sexual harassment" is absurd and patently unfair.

This surfaced from the Perry camp. One of Perry's top advisers worked for Cain during his 2004 Senate run, and had just recently joined the Perry team. Cain had briefed him on the incident in 2004, so he certainly had the information. Perry has had serious trouble gaining traction and catching Romney, and the more debates he flubbed, the more Herman Cain began to emerge as the challenger to Romney which Perry had hoped to be, so it all makes perfect political sense that it came from Perry.

And as for the "handling" of this, please do tell us, what exactly IS the appropriate way to handle such a thing? People keep saying Cain hasn't handled this well... but what the hell is he supposed to do? Suspend his campaign, stop talking about his 999 plan or any of his ideas, and focus intensely for the next two weeks on merely answering the same silly redundant questions about this, over and over again? Some of you brilliant political Einsteins tell me, what would YOU have done differently here? The way I see it, Cain has handled it appropriately, he issued the statement that the allegations are false, he did nothing inappropriate, and there is nothing to this. There is nothing more he can say or do about it, and it's best he get back on message and not allow this to become a distraction. That is what he has done... so, how has he "handled it poorly?"
 
Dixie said:
Okay, let's remove ourselves from Liberal La-la-Land for a minute, and rejoin reality... a "sexual harassment allegation" can result over something as insignificant and innocent as a compliment or nice gesture. I know this first hand, because someone I personally know, had to go through it. The guy is stone cold in love with his wife and would NEVER cheat, the idea never crossed his mind... there was a fairly attractive receptionist who worked for a company who was his client, and he talked to her almost daily, when he visited his client. She had recently been dumped by her boyfriend on Valentines Day, of all days...a story she shared with him on her own. He really felt sorry for her more than anything, and so he sent her some flowers and a card, the card had a poem about life...some inspirational crap... nothing romantic. The next day, his supervisor called him into the office to discuss a "sexual harassment" incident. Obviously, he had done nothing inappropriate, he thought he was being considerate and nice, nothing more... she interpreted it as "sexual harassment" and lodged a complaint. His supervisor explained, there was nothing he could do, he was obligated to follow up. There was never a charge made, the guy didn't get fired, and I don't know if the woman ever got paid off or whatnot, but it was a bunch of trumped up bullshit about nothing, all because he tried to do something nice for someone he felt sympathy for. I'm not saying this is the case with Cain, I don't know the details, but to automatically jump to the conclusion that Cain did something inappropriate on the basis someone claimed "sexual harassment" is absurd and patently unfair.

This surfaced from the Perry camp. One of Perry's top advisers worked for Cain during his 2004 Senate run, and had just recently joined the Perry team. Cain had briefed him on the incident in 2004, so he certainly had the information. Perry has had serious trouble gaining traction and catching Romney, and the more debates he flubbed, the more Herman Cain began to emerge as the challenger to Romney which Perry had hoped to be, so it all makes perfect political sense that it came from Perry.

And as for the "handling" of this, please do tell us, what exactly IS the appropriate way to handle such a thing? People keep saying Cain hasn't handled this well... but what the hell is he supposed to do? Suspend his campaign, stop talking about his 999 plan or any of his ideas, and focus intensely for the next two weeks on merely answering the same silly redundant questions about this, over and over again? Some of you brilliant political Einsteins tell me, what would YOU have done differently here? The way I see it, Cain has handled it appropriately, he issued the statement that the allegations are false, he did nothing inappropriate, and there is nothing to this. There is nothing more he can say or do about it, and it's best he get back on message and not allow this to become a distraction. That is what he has done... so, how has he "handled it poorly?"
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Your first paragraph, I agree with 100%.

Your second paragraph, I agree with 100%.

Re your second paragraph, he needed a consistant story that did not change over the days, then he needed to say, "now lets get back to work fixing whats wrong in America."

Are you willing to address the fact that he has played the race card?
 
Jarod said:
Your first paragraph, I agree with 100%.

Your second paragraph, I agree with 100%.
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Wow... Two-for-two? That's some kind of freaking record!

Re your second paragraph, he needed a consistant story that did not change over the days, then he needed to say, "now lets get back to work fixing whats wrong in America."

Are you willing to address the fact that he has played the race card?
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His story hasn't really changed as I am aware of, he originally indicated she wasn't paid, then later discovered that was incorrect and had to recant, but that's not changing your story, that's clarifying what you said in light of new information you were previously unaware of. And he HAS said, now let's get back to work fixing what's wrong... the media made a big deal about him not wanting to talk about this anymore!

And he did not "play the race card" here, he simply said what is the sad truth of the matter, there are people who want to undermine his campaign because they don't want a black man to win the GOP nomination. Do you not believe that is true, Jughead? Cain played the TRUTH card, not the RACE card.
 
Dixie said:
Wow... Two-for-two? That's some kind of freaking record!



His story hasn't really changed as I am aware of, he originally indicated she wasn't paid, then later discovered that was incorrect and had to recant, but that's not changing your story, that's clarifying what you said in light of new information you were previously unaware of. And he HAS said, now let's get back to work fixing what's wrong... the media made a big deal about him not wanting to talk about this anymore!


And he did not "play the race card" here, he simply said what is the sad truth of the matter, there are people who want to undermine his campaign because they don't want a black man to win the GOP nomination. Do you not believe that is true, Jughead? Cain played the TRUTH card, not the RACE card.
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Ya, right.
 
SPRINGFIELD, Mo. (AP) - Democrat Barack Obama, the first black candidate with a shot at winning the White House, says John McCain and his Republican allies will try to scare them by saying Obama "doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills."

Obama often makes references to his distinctions as a candidate, such as saying there are doubts among some voters because he has "a funny name." At times he refers to his race as well, saying he looks different that any previous candidate but then adding that the differences are not just about race. Addressing supporters Tuesday night at a fundraiser in Springfield, he said, "It's a leap, electing a 46-year-old black guy named Barack Obama."


Was Obama "playing the race card" here, Jughead? I don't recall you chastising him for it... maybe I missed it?
 
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