disability insurance fraud 60 minutes

patriot66 said:
i probably qualify for partial disability with my back problems, won't even try, to many democrat frauds on it, I wouldn't get a sniff, it's the new food stamps
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Yes, I am positive there are no conservatives who committ fraud, they are perfect.
 
cawacko said:
I'm sure the contingency fee for lawyers varies depending on the case. For instance my wife and her siblings are in a fight against her mom's ex-boyfriend and my wife's lawyers contingency fee is 40%.

The purpose of this piece done by 60 Minutes was showing the amount of money attorneys have received which continues to drive them to this industry.
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Would you like some actual data?

http://www.allsup.com/allsup-representation/fees
The SSA determines the fee that any representative can charge for SSDI representation. Currently, under the SSA's fee agreement approval process, it is 25 percent of the retroactive dollar amount awarded, not to exceed $6,000 (as of June 22, 2009*). Those who are approved for SSDI benefits, sometimes very quickly, and do not receive a retroactive award generally pay lower fees.

Example: If you are awarded a $1,000 monthly benefit and the award is retroactive 12 months ($12,000), your fee would be $3,000 (.25 x $12,000). You would keep the other $9,000 of your retroactive award. All of your monthly benefits ($1,000) are yours to keep going forward.

Example: If your claim takes 42 months to get your $1,000 monthly benefit, your representation fee would be capped at $6,000 on the $42,000 retroactive award rather than $10,500 (.25 x $42,000)
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cawacko said:
What is the difference between federal disability insurance and social security disability insurance?
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As far as I know, there isn't "federal disability". If someone knows differently, please post.

Some states have state disability - California does, and you can be on it a year; after that, you have to go for social security disability

Then there is soc security disability and SSI

Soc Security disability is basically for people who have worked; SSI for those who haven't.

But details here:
http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/245/~/difference-between-social-security-disability-and-ssi-disability

And by the way - apparently not everyone thinks 60 minutes was accurate. I didn't watch the program myself, so can't say
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10/07/60-minutes-report-denounced-for-disability-misi/196317


National disability organizations have criticized a misleading CBS News 60 Minutes report on Social Security disability which relied on anecdotal evidence to deceptively portray the vital program as wasteful and unsustainable, despite the fact that award rates fell during the recession and that fraud is less than one percent of the program.

On October 6, 60 Minutes stoked fears that the Social Security Disability Insurance program is "ravaged by waste and fraud," relying on Senator Tom Coburn's (R-OK) partisan investigation and anecdotal evidence to hype growth in the program while misleadingly claiming that it "could become the first government benefits program to run out of money."

In response, organizations that advocate for and support people with disabilities nationwide have criticized the report. Rebecca Vallas, co-chair of the Social Security Task Force at the Consortium for Citizens with Disabilities -- a coalition of approximately 100 national disability organizations -- told Media Matters the coverage was "sensational" and did a "tremendous disservice" to people with disabilities:

The recent 60 Minutes broadcast is just the latest in an array of sensational and misleading media reports that have perpetuated myths and stereotypes about the Social Security disability programs and the people they help. These media reports do a tremendous disservice to viewers as well as to people with disabilities. Any misuse of these vital programs is unacceptable; however it is unfortunate and disappointing when media reports mislead their viewers by painting entire programs with the brush of one or a few bad apples, without putting them in the context of the millions of individuals who receive benefits appropriately, and for whom they are a vital lifeline -- as well as the many disability advocates around the country who work hard to protect the rights of individuals with significant disabilities and serious illnesses who have been wrongly denied Social Security disability benefits.
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Note: of course, many companies offer enhanced disability coverage through their insurance plans. Not federal though; that's administered by private companies.
 
tekkychick said:
As far as I know, there isn't "federal disability". If someone knows differently, please post.

Some states have state disability - California does, and you can be on it a year; after that, you have to go for social security disability

Then there is soc security disability and SSI

Soc Security disability is basically for people who have worked; SSI for those who haven't.

But details here:
http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/245/~/difference-between-social-security-disability-and-ssi-disability

And by the way - apparently not everyone thinks 60 minutes was accurate. I didn't watch the program myself, so can't say
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10/07/60-minutes-report-denounced-for-disability-misi/196317
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The whole premise of this 60 Minutes piece is on the federal disability insurance program. It's stated in the first paragraph of the OP.
 
annata said:
OASI, and DI are the 2 trust funds - wasn't sure where SSIdraws out of...I went here...lol.. what I found..
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Haha. The piece stated the people who used this federal disability insurance program often ran out of unemployment money but were not at social security age yet. That's why I'm confused when they (on this board) reference data from social security.
 
cawacko said:
Haha. The piece stated the people who used this federal disability insurance program often ran out of unemployment money but were not at social security age yet. That's why I'm confused when they (on this board) reference data from social security.
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It's confusing. I mentioned I did trust funding adjusment for BDI years ago, so i knew a bit about it
 
cawacko said:
Haha. The piece stated the people who used this federal disability insurance program often ran out of unemployment money but were not at social security age yet. That's why I'm confused when they (on this board) reference data from social security.
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As far as I know, if you've worked but are now on disability, that's social security disability - that IS the federal disability program.

Note this from the op:
The Social Security Administration, which runs the disability program says the explosive surge is due to aging baby boomers and the lingering effects of a bad economy
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I assume they are using the term "federal disability program" to cover both social security and SSI, which are two different programs. SSI is more limited I believe that soc security disability.

I could be wrong and there's some third program out there at the federal level. Of course, this doesn't include VA disability
 
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