Didn't Conservatives staple teabags to their faces because of this very thing?

President Clinton made an offhand confession on Tuesday night that he had raised taxes "too much" in his first budget in 1993, and the remark drew mockery from Congressional Republicans today. Angry Democrats accused him of repudiating a package they had stuck their necks out to pass without a single Republican vote."

An offhand remark?

This is a smoking gun?
 
It the policy is a failure because it is increasing the deficit and debt that would indicate that those increases are not good policy.

Well, they stapled teabags to their faces ten years ago because of those increases, yet aren't stapling teabags to their faces today.

Why?
 
This has nothing to do with Conservatives creating record high deficits after spending the last ten years stapling teabags to their faces because of record high deficits.

And stapling teabags has nothing to do with finding links to conservatives who criticized the deficit which was the original post I replied to that you are trying so hard to refute with bad faith claims like somebody is not an elected official or only mentioned the topic once or voted for the tax cut.
 
It the policy is a failure because it is increasing the deficit and debt that would indicate that those increases are not good policy.

We were told over and over and over that deficits of any kind were unacceptable back when Obama first became President.

We were told that we had to have balanced budgets and couldn't burden our children and grandchildren with debt.

Now that those same people have increased the deficit back to the trillion-dollar level, suddenly *I'm* being partisan by showing the results of that policy?
 
This has nothing to do with Conservatives creating record high deficits after spending the last ten years stapling teabags to their faces because of record high deficits.

And stapling teabags has nothing to do with finding links to conservatives who criticized the deficit which was the original post I replied to that you are trying so hard to refute with bad faith claims like somebody is not an elected official or only mentioned the topic once or voted for the tax cut.
 
We were told over and over and over that deficits of any kind were unacceptable back when Obama first became President.

We were told that we had to have balanced budgets and couldn't burden our children and grandchildren with debt.

Now that those same people have increased the deficit back to the trillion-dollar level, suddenly *I'm* being partisan by showing the results of that policy?

Duh? And you take political attacks seriously? They are about as relevant as Obama being born in Africa, Hillary having a child sex ring, or Trump colluding with Russians. The sad part is people actually believed these claims.
 
So you are not concerned about the debt and deficit?

Personally, no. I am not concerned about either.

What concerns me is Conservative posturing over the two and why you take that posturing seriously and why you feel compelled to foist that posturing on me simply because I point out that Conservative policy failed to do what they've been screaming about for the last 10 years.

Seriously, what gives Flash?



hen why is that a "policy failure?"

Because Conservatives said that the tax cut would pay for itself.

They say that over and over.

Trump's Treasury Secretary said that. His chief economic advisor said that. Conservatives on these very boards say that.
 
And stapling teabags has nothing to do with finding links to conservatives who criticized the deficit

Of which you only found one.

ONE.

That's all you found.

Then you demanded I accommodate you by doing your work for you.

Fuck off, Flash. Do your own fucking work.
 
I replied to that you are trying so hard to refute with bad faith claims like somebody is not an elected official or only mentioned the topic once or voted for the tax cut.

First of all, Flash, of the links you first posted, only one had commentary consistent with the message.

None of the others did.

In fact, a couple of the links didn't even mention the deficit.

So what you did was act in bad faith; you posted links, you didn't read the links you posted, and you hoped we would accommodate that bad faith.

Why the fuck should we?

Why don't you read your own links before posting them?

Not mentioning the deficit is detrimental to your argument that Conservatives are railing about it.

How can Conservatives rail about the deficit if they don't even mention it?

Don't worry, I know you won't answer that.

You'll just continue lying that you posted proof when we both know you didn't.
 
An offhand remark?

This is a smoking gun?

A smoking gun for what? I simply said Bill Clinton said he thought he raised taxes too much and you asked when he said it and I said 1995.

Where does "smoking gun" come from. Another distraction on your part. Bill Clinton did say that--that is the only point. You are trying to create something different.
 
Of which you only found one.

ONE.

That's all you found.

Then you demanded I accommodate you by doing your work for you.

Fuck off, Flash. Do your own fucking work.

Not true. I found several but you dismissed them for irrelevant reasons.
 
And stapling teabags has nothing to do with finding links to conservatives who criticized the deficit which was the original post I replied to that you are trying so hard to refute with bad faith claims like somebody is not an elected official or only mentioned the topic once or voted for the tax cut.

You only found ONE LINK.

Five of your other links didn't address it, even though you lied and said they did.

I had to physically go into each link, read it for you, then post the context within which the deficit was mentioned (if it even was mentioned, which it wasn't in a couple of your links).

So what happened was that you got mad because I accurately pointed out Conservative hypocrisy, and because of your bothsiderism compulsion, you spammed the board and my thread with links that didn't even address the central issue at hand; the tax cut-induced deficit expansion.

Only one of your links actually railed on the deficit caused by the tax cut, and that was a link from before the tax cut was even passed.

Nothing since.
 
They are about as relevant as Obama being born in Africa, Hillary having a child sex ring, or Trump colluding with Russian

What!?

You think Conservatives expanding the deficit with their tax cuts is the same as alleging Obama was born in Kenya?
 
Personally, no. I am not concerned about either.

What concerns me is Conservative posturing over the two and why you take that posturing seriously and why you feel compelled to foist that posturing on me simply because I point out that Conservative policy failed to do what they've been screaming about for the last 10 years.

Seriously, what gives Flash?

I don't take any of that phony posturing seriously--from Democrats or Republicans. Your problem is that you think you have to side with one party and to make that palatable you have to create an evil and good dichotomy. And you fall for all the phony arguments made by Democrats because you think that makes you a "good" person. That is the way they attract our votes--you don't have to fall for the phony "us or them" arguments.
 
A smoking gun for what? I simply said Bill Clinton said he thought he raised taxes too much and you asked when he said it and I said 1995

Well, not really because you even admit it was an "offhand remark".

Clinton vetoed a proposed tax cut in 1999, remember?

Of course you don't remember, because you didn't even know about it.
 
Like you believe claims that Republicans rail about the very deficits caused by their tax cuts.

I don't believe their claims, I only stated that there are conservatives who are critical. Whether they are serious or not had nothing to do with the original claim.

Since you aren't concerned about the debt or deficits you shouldn't care what those Republicans are saying or stapling to their faces.
 
Not true. I found several but you dismissed them for irrelevant reasons.

No, what you did was a lazy Google search and you just posted links without reading them.

In fact, I broke down one of those very links for you and showed how dishonest about it you were. Right here, actually. Post #90 on this thread.

You didn't respond to that, of course, because doing so would be an admission of your bad faith.

So don't lie to me. I can tell when you're lying.
 
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