Devout CATHOLICS Bishop Biden & Pope Pelosi - have Dem voters found religion?

StoneByStone said:
They don't believe individuals should be forced to give to charity. However, they do believe in using taxes to improve society. So the Christian thing to do with that money would be to help the poor, not build a wall to keep our foreigners.
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building a wall improves society -and it's done all over the world now
 
anatta said:
no Jesus was clear to maintain the public's law separate from God's law
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In certain ways, such as paying taxes and obeying the laws of your government. But he never said that elected officials shouldn't create laws and policies based on their values.
 
StoneByStone said:
The Hebrew Bible is extremely Nationalist and is basically a religion of Israelite Nationalism. However, the New Testament is Globalist and says clearly that there "is no Greek or Jew in Christ."
https://sojo.net/22-bible-verses-welcoming-immigrants

Christianity, like any religion, is full of contradictions. But generally speaking, Christians will side with the New Testament over the Old Testament.
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Why would God create Human cultures, and then want cultures to vanish via immigration?

That would be the typical Religious interpretation.

I'm a little more off beat.

I believe like the Gnostics, that divine beings created by God created life on Earth, and that reincarnation is real.

It's interesting that the Gnostic bibles were left out.

I also believe in evolution, obviously everything evolve.

But, that doesn't disprove God.
 
StoneByStone said:
Religion is stupid. I'm not saying it makes sense, I'm just saying this is how Christianity is. It's a Globalist religion.
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It doesn't make anymore sense that life came to be from nothing, either.

I do believe God would respect cultures, it is part of who we are.

It's often Atheists who seek to destroy cultures.
 
StoneByStone said:
#deflection
We're not talking about me, we're talking about how Conservatives are able to justify calling themselves Christian while fighting against policies that help the poor. If you're ready to admit these Conservatives are hypocrites, then we can talk about me.

Sure, but in a true Christian society, we'd accept anyone who wants to come to this country. We wouldn't have "merit-based immigration" like Conservatives want, because then we'd be turning away foreigners who want help.

I don't think it should. I don't think either Testament should be taken seriously. However, when Christians have to choose between Testaments due to a contradiction, they generally side with the New Testament. Unless, of course, when it comes to politics.
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I definitely agree that God would be for helping the poor.

Catholics tend to believe that.

Evangelicals tend to believe in greed, thrift, violence, actual sins.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
I definitely agree that God would be for helping the poor.

Catholics tend to believe that.

Evangelicals tend to believe in greed, thrift, violence, actual sins.
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In America, Catholics are usually more liberal than Protestants, probably because so many of them live in big cities.
 
StoneByStone said:
They don't believe individuals should be forced to give to charity. However, they do believe in using taxes to improve society. So the Christian thing to do with that money would be to help the poor, not build a wall to keep our foreigners.
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Dead wrong, again. :palm:
 
StoneByStone said:
In America, Catholics are usually more liberal than Protestants, probably because so many of them live in big cities.
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Because, we're basically swing voters.

Catholics are suppose to believe in helping the poor, against war & guns more align with Democrats.

Catholics are suppose to believe against abortion, pornography & Gay marriage more align with Republicans.

But, White Catholics are far from Democrats in America.

58 - 64% of White Catholics voted Trump.

It would probably be a lot higher without Irish Catholics, who tend to be a little more soft & Democrat.

Italian Americans & Polish Americans were definitely Trump supporters at least in 2016 they were.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/trump-and-the-white-vote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish-American_vote
 
StoneByStone said:
In America, Catholics are usually more liberal than Protestants, probably because so many of them live in big cities.
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Polish Americans swinging for Trump, is probably which won him the election. (It's states with a lot of Poles like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania which went Republican for the first time in decades)
Probably since Reagan.

There Trump goes thinking Poland owes Jews Holocaust compensations.

Between the Russian probe, Trump signing a law to have Poland pay Jews Holocaust compensations, and with Trump's big mouth, and ignorance.

I don't think as many Polish Americans will vote Trump the 2nd time.

I think like myself, we were willing to edge for Trump, hoping he would sort out illegals, outsourced jobs, and Abortion.

The guy is a failure fckface.
 
StoneByStone said:
I agree, but that's not the point. The Christian thing would be to accept all foreigners.
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Why should Catholics accept non-Catholics into their countries?

That's called religious suicide.

While, a lot of Latinos are Catholic originally, huge numbers of them become Pentecostal, or Evangelicals upon arrival.

In my Pawling, NY, the Latinos mostly of Guatemalan & sometimes Ecuadorian descent have their own Pentecostal & Evangelical churches in Spanish.

Very, very few of them come to our Catholic church.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Trump signing a law to have Poland pay Jews Holocaust compensations
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Lets' be clear ...

It is a law passed unanimously by the Senate, and unanimously by voice vote in the House. A law that has no power to force any restoration of property and applies to 47 countries that have already agreed to study the issue. A law that simply asks the studies be reported to congress
 
Bigdog said:
Lets' be clear ...

It is a law passed unanimously by the Senate, and unanimously by voice vote in the House. A law that has no power to force any restoration of property and applies to 47 countries that have already agreed to study the issue.
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If Poland signed a law to get the USA to pay Mexico reparations for stealing their land 180 years ago.

Your lot would be foaming at the mouth.

But, because Soviet Communists stole ALL PEOPLE's lands in Poland 75 years ago, including from Poles, Germans, Ukrainians, Jews, etc.

Jews are the ultimate victims.

Nope, can't work with anyone else to get properties back.

It's anti-Semitism that they lost their properties to Communism, that BTW, they largely supported.

Many top officials in Soviet Poland were Kosher, Jakub Berman, Hillary Minc, Roman Zambrowski, Roman Romkowski, Jozef Rozanski, Salomon Morel.

To tell you the truth, the only top official I'm aware of Soviet Poland of Polish Goyim origins is Boleslaw Bierut.
 
Bigdog said:
Lets' be clear ...

It is a law passed unanimously by the Senate, and unanimously by voice vote in the House. A law that has no power to force any restoration of property and applies to 47 countries that have already agreed to study the issue. A law that simply asks the studies be reported to congress
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The government leases you properties in the first place.

That's why if you don't pay property tax, you lose your house.

I'm pretty sure none of them have paid property tax on those properties.

So, they can go fck themselves, and so can the dumb Protestant American Neocons who think oh Poland owes them.
 
Bigdog said:
Lets' be clear ...

It is a law passed unanimously by the Senate, and unanimously by voice vote in the House. A law that has no power to force any restoration of property and applies to 47 countries that have already agreed to study the issue. A law that simply asks the studies be reported to congress
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I couldn't be happier, that Poland's enemies are all replacing themselves.

Russia, the USA, Israel, the UK, and the EU, are all Balkanized sh(tholes.

Once you go into chaotic civil war, fighting the Balkanized elements.

Catholic Europe will probably reign supreme.

That is if you jerks don't start a Nuclear war first.
 
Honestly, maybe many countries are paying for their "Sins"

Balkanized largely by their past mistakes.

Pakistanis, Indians & Nigerians in UK for colonizing those countries.

Turkic Muslims & Caucasus Muslims flooding Moscow, for colonizing those countries.

Arabs in France for France colonizing Arabs.

The USA being colonized by Latinos & Blacks, for their mistakes against Latinos & Blacks.

Germany being colonized by Turks for siding with Turks to kill Whites in 2 World Wars.

Israel being filled with Arab Palestinians, for colonizing Palestine.
 
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