DeSantis showboating could cost Florida billions

Illegals are supposed to be arrested and deported, Marty.

Poor Marty.

As if repeating a premise solves a syllogism.

Members of a political debate site are supposed to be capable of intelligent discourse, dumbo. You never demonstrate anything but your obsessions.
 
Thanks Lil Ron Ron. Just so you know, you can stop now, you have no chance to EVER be President.

I'm personally already seeing the impact of this; the company I hired to do my driveway pavers cancelled the contract because they lost almost their entire labor force. A favorite restaurant of ours was closed Sunday evening, they have had to reduce hours because of their labor shortage. Once this law goes into effect, hotels, restaurants, service companies, roofers, etc will experience a huge loss of labor. All so DeSantis can maintain his dream of being the next white supremacist President.

"A new Florida law cracking down on undocumented immigrants, signed last month by far-right Gov. Ron DeSantis and set to take effect on July 1, has pushed thousands of workers to flee the state.
Now even some capitalists who otherwise support DeSantis and the state's GOP-controlled House and Senate are beginning to speak out about how the law is likely to hurt their bottom lines."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/desantis-anti-immigrant-law-sparks-mass-worker-exodus-in-florida

The anti-immigrant folks existed in the GW Bush administration. He recognized what you pointed out and recommended better work visa programs.

Our nation needs immigration reform, but there are too many racists like DeSantis and Trump running the Republican Party to make that happen anytime soon. It will be the businessmen losing money who need to push it through.
 
As if repeating a premise solves a syllogism.

Members of a political debate site are supposed to be capable of intelligent discourse, dumbo. You never demonstrate anything but your obsessions.

Whatever ruined Earl's career was likely to be brain related.
 
As if repeating a premise solves a syllogism.

Members of a political debate site are supposed to be capable of intelligent discourse, dumbo. You never demonstrate anything but your obsessions.

So, Marty, illegals are not supposed to be arrested and deported?


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Your childish taunts are an indication of an immature person.

Poor Marty.
 
Indeed I do remember.

In the past, the foreign worker situation worked beautifully.

They came here for the harvest on temporary visas, stayed til it was over and returned to their countries.

The far left Democratic Socialist loons saw a way to harvest illegals for their votes. Everything went south then.

You have to be a citizen to vote. So there is no harvesting illegals for their Votes!

And you just showed how impossible you are to be able reason, or use common sense, and how incredibly dishonest, deceptive, and ignorant you are Earl.

Brilliant!:palm:
 
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You have to be a citizen to vote. So there is no harvesting illegals for their Votes!

And you just showed how impossible you are to be able reason, or use common sense, and how incredibly dishonest and ignorant you are Earl.

Brilliant!:palm:

Wrong.


Laws permitting noncitizens to vote in the United States

Ballotpedia
https://ballotpedia.org › Laws_permitting_noncitizens...
Wisconsin. The following localities allow noncitizen voting in some or all local elections.



DC Latest Jurisdiction to Allow Noncitizens to Vote

The Daily Signal
https://www.dailysignal.com › 2023/03/13 › dc-joins-...
Mar 13, 2023 — Five states—California, Illinois, Maryland, New York, and Vermont—allow noncitizen voting in local elections for municipal offices or school ...

Get a clue, Gecko and lose the immature ad homs. They fit you perfectly, not me.
 
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Wouldn't it be better to work out a bipartisan plan to allow these workers to become documented and legal? The (R)s control the U.S. House; why aren't they putting forth some solutions, rather than whining about nonexistent "problems" like trans athletes and CRT and Hunter Biden?

Yup.

As with everything Republi'can', they are lying and gaslighting. When they have power they never do anything to help make legal migration/immigration easier.

They weaponize that they 'just want them to come here legally' while the only thing they do in the back ground is try to reduce the ways for anyone to come here legally.

The biggest things we have seen Republi'cans' do when they had power was try to shut down many more areas of legal immigration and deny the Dreamers a path to citizenship and to end Birth Right Citizenship.
 
Are 5.5 million illegals here since Biden took office enough?

Biden’s open borders and sanctuary cities are backfiring on these Far left Democratic Socialist loons.
 
remember when the demmycunts used to say the way to deal with illegal immigrants was to go after the people who employed them?.....

If you are not playing a game and intent on TRULY reducing and ending it, then that is the only real way to do it.

As long as all the Trump hotels are waving what migrants see as big money, to sneak in and work at my hotels and golf courses, with a wink and a nod, saying 'we will not check or enforce the laws against you', then you will ALWAYS get migrants taking the chance and coming, when they either succeed and get for them is a good paying job, or they just get sent home.


it you tell Trump and his hotels and golf courses, you are REQUIRED to do the following before hiring, and they face penalties (fines, etc) if they do not, then that can deter them and if no jobs are offered the migrants will stop coming.

So whether that is a policy position you would support or not any smart person can see that if you do TRULY want to curtail it, you must get those offering money (the enticement) to stop offering. The rest is just gaslighting game play. A pretense you are against illegal migrants while ensuring they will keep coming so you can use them as a political football.
 
Wrong.


Laws permitting noncitizens to vote in the United States

Ballotpedia
https://ballotpedia.org › Laws_permitting_noncitizens...
Wisconsin. The following localities allow noncitizen voting in some or all local elections.



DC Latest Jurisdiction to Allow Noncitizens to Vote

The Daily Signal
https://www.dailysignal.com › 2023/03/13 › dc-joins-...
Mar 13, 2023 — Five states—California, Illinois, Maryland, New York, and Vermont—allow noncitizen voting in local elections for municipal offices or school ...

Get a clue, Gecko.

You get a clue you lying deceptive son-of-a-BITCH!

Some areas, and not very many, allow non-citizens to vote in "LOCAL ELECTIONS ONLY".

Not in any state, are non-citizens allowed to vote in State or Federal elections.

So again, you are being deceptive, dishonest, and lying your ass off!

YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF FOR BEING SUCH A LYING FOOL!

SO I am calling your lying ass out.

You either be honest, or I will be right here to point out your intentional lying here in the forum!

So you may continue to grown me all you want!

And you can even Ban me if you like, but I am doing a Public Service here by telling the TRUTH!
 
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Indeed.

“Among the requirements is that businesses with over 25 employees use a federal system known as E-Verify to determine whether the employees are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

The new law will also invalidate driver's licenses issued in other states to drivers who lack legal status and prohibits local governments from providing money to organizations that issue identification cards to immigrants without legal status.

It will also require that hospitals in the state that accept Medicaid include a citizenship question on forms, thus discouraging many immigrants from getting medical care.

The law also provides $12 million for DeSantis’ migrant relocation program. The governor made headlines last year when he flew a group of Venezuelan migrants from Texas to Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts, to protest federal immigration policy.”

Sounds good to me.
 
You get a clue you lying deceptive son-of-a-BITCH!

Some areas, and not very many, allow non-citizens to vote in "LOCAL ELECTIONS ONLY".

Not in any state, are non-citizens allowed to vote in State or Federal elections.

So again, you are being deceptive, dishonest, and lying your ass off!

YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF FOR BEING SUCH A LYING FOOL!

SO I am calling your lying ass out.


Stop squirming, Gecko.

Gecko posted:

“You have to be a citizen to vote. So there is no harvesting illegals for their Votes!”

You lied, Gecko and your playground taunts are ineffective when you are caught in a bald-faced lie.

Poor Gecko.

You are a hoot, Gecko.
 
Republi'cans : 'Inflation is bad. Wages going up must be controlled and curtailed. '


Also Republi'cans' : Cutting down LEGAL MIGRATION would increase working-class wages and create jobs.


Sure if you stop legal immigration or greatly reduce it and end the migrants coming in, the employers in Agriculture and Hospitality would have no choice but to continually raise wages until they attracted Americans willing to do that very undesirable work.

The problem is that Farms picking fruits and vegetables DO NOT have the price elasticity to pass on much higher wage costs, as they compete with farm goods coming in from other countries. So the end result would be killing off many areas of farming within America.

Hospitality (Hotels, Resorts, restaurants, etc) can arguably afford it and pass on the higher costs but that causes significant inflation then .

These are the competing demons of not taking a holistic approach to immigration/migration that republicunts refuse to consider, acting as if you can just put the hammer down on one side of the equation and not have to think about the other.

Historically republicans were very open to ways to manage this challenge in productive ways. Todays republicunts, do not want a productive solution. They want the system to break.
 
Thanks Lil Ron Ron. Just so you know, you can stop now, you have no chance to EVER be President.

I'm personally already seeing the impact of this; the company I hired to do my driveway pavers cancelled the contract because they lost almost their entire labor force. A favorite restaurant of ours was closed Sunday evening, they have had to reduce hours because of their labor shortage. Once this law goes into effect, hotels, restaurants, service companies, roofers, etc will experience a huge loss of labor. All so DeSantis can maintain his dream of being the next white supremacist President.

"A new Florida law cracking down on undocumented immigrants, signed last month by far-right Gov. Ron DeSantis and set to take effect on July 1, has pushed thousands of workers to flee the state.
Now even some capitalists who otherwise support DeSantis and the state's GOP-controlled House and Senate are beginning to speak out about how the law is likely to hurt their bottom lines."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/desantis-anti-immigrant-law-sparks-mass-worker-exodus-in-florida

while this specific policy is good,

he will never be president.

nobody likes an ingrate.

all he had to do was wait four years.

that's so clear it's obvious he's a deep state shill.
 
Republi'cans : 'Inflation is bad. Wages going up must be controlled and curtailed. '


Also Republi'cans' : Cutting down LEGAL MIGRATION would increase working-class wages and create jobs.


Sure if you stop legal immigration or greatly reduce it and end the migrants coming in, the employers in Agriculture and Hospitality would have no choice but to continually raise wages until they attracted Americans willing to do that very undesirable work.

The problem is that Farms picking fruits and vegetables DO NOT have the price elasticity to pass on much higher wage costs, as they compete with farm goods coming in from other countries. So the end result would be killing off many areas of farming within America.

Hospitality (Hotels, Resorts, restaurants, etc) can arguably afford it and pass on the higher costs but that causes significant inflation then .

These are the competing demons of not taking a holistic approach to immigration/migration that republicunts refuse to consider, acting as if you can just put the hammer down on one side of the equation and not have to think about the other.

Historically republicans were very open to ways to manage this challenge in productive ways. Todays republicunts, do not want a productive solution. They want the system to break.

What do liberals want when it comes to migration and immigration? Because right now it's completely out of control ...isn't that correct? America should be taking care of their own first... and clearly that's not the case... https://cis.org/Arthur/Bidens-Released-Least-2020522-Southwest-Border-Migrants
 
The Florida legislators are imploring the illegals living there to stay, they claim the law was only to stop new immigrants from coming and has no teeth. The immigrants aren’t buying it. Florida Republicans are morons.
 
What do liberals want when it comes to migration and immigration? Because right now it's completely out of control ...isn't that correct? America should be taking care of their own first... and clearly that's not the case... https://cis.org/Arthur/Bidens-Released-Least-2020522-Southwest-Border-Migrants

Liberals want as many illegals as humanly possible to cross the border…for their votes.

Of course Gecko says that illegals can not vote and of course he is wrong. They are voting.

Democrats always put illegals ahead of legal Americans who pay our taxes and fight our wars.
 
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