Dems to grant statehood to DC and Puerto Rico

LV426 said:
Why stop with DC and PR? I say make all US territories into states. Go up to 57. It's long past time for a 21st Century Superpower to still have territories and colonies.
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CFM said:
Replacing an old cunt with someone that views the Constitution correctly isn't court stacking.
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They know that. It's just that the court is the only way they get any legislation passed. And they know the court can't reverse the decision if this is why they should use the normal method but their ideas are so unpopular it wouldn't work.

They are losing their only power.
 
Earl said:
PR has to pass a referendum.
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Actually, they don't.

There is no legally-binding process in the Constitution, which says:

Article IV, Section 3, Clause 1:

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.


The road to American statehood has been anything but orderly, and the 37 states that have traveled it spawned a score of seedy subplots.

Puerto Rico is not required to hold a successful plebiscite as a step toward statehood.

Traditionally, plebiscites have been used as leverage by political leaders seeking statehood for their territory.

Only 11 of the 37 states admitted to the Union after the original 13 held similar votes. And often, the results had only marginal relevance to the eventual attainment of statehood.

In 1837, Florida residents approved statehood by a 2-to-1 margin. But it was only after eight years - and a constitutional convention Congress did not authorize - that the state was admitted to the Union.

Colorado voters actually rejected statehood in their only plebiscite in 1859 - and didn't make their preference known again until they voted on a constitution in 1865 (only to be rejected by President Andrew Johnson) and again in 1876, when statehood finally prevailed.

So if not the wishes of the people, what has been the overriding factor propelling territories toward statehood?

Population maybe?

Not really. There has never been a strictly enforced "magic number" of residents to either compel or forbid Congress to make a territory into a state.

The Northwest Ordinance of 1787 required that any new state have at least 60,000 free inhabitants. Though many statehood applications were vetoed for not meeting this requirement, several others applied for and received waivers.

The populations of newly admitted states have ranged wildly, from a low of 34,000 (Illinois in 1818) to 1.4 million (Oklahoma in 1907).

Has geographic size been a factor?

The record suggests more inconsistency. After all, Texas could have been five states - but Congress admitted it as only one. Conversely, before Iowa Territory was admitted as a state Congress actually tried to shrink its boundaries.

Has length of time as a territory had any bearing on statehood?

Here again, there is no clear pattern. Alabama existed as a territory for only 33 months before attaining statehood. New Mexico had to wait more than 61 years.

Six of the 37 post-Colonial states never were territories. Four of the six (Vermont, Kentucky, Maine and West Virginia) were carved from existing states. California was under military jurisdiction just prior to statehood.

Texas, an independent republic, became a state immediately upon its annexation to the United States. (In yet another show of inconsistency, the independent Republic of Hawaii was annexed in 1898, then relegated to territorial status for six decades.)

In 1796, Tennessee virtually barged into the Union by drafting a constitution, electing two U.S. senators and declaring itself a state - all without congressional permission. The strategy worked. Congress admitted the state in short order.

Six future states would use this "Tennessee plan" to gain admission. Another four, including Florida, would draft constitutions without congressional permission, but not take the extra step of electing representatives to Congress.



https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1993-11-07-9311080427-story.html
 
LV426 said:
Meanwhile, 200,000+ people have died from COVID the last 7 months because President Stupid lied to us, and you repeated his lies.
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Wrong again LyingVagina426. It's thanks to the WHO and Marxist third world shithole China which unleashed the virus on the planet.

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Arks&sparka said:
They know that. It's just that the court is the only way they get any legislation passed. And they know the court can't reverse the decision if this is why they should use the normal method but their ideas are so unpopular it wouldn't work. They are losing their only power.
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Exactly.
 
archives said:
If they win the Senate, House, and President, they can, now or at some time down the road, exactly why Mitch is worried about the Democrats eliminating the filibuster, that would set the GOP back decades
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^Still stuck on dumbass. :palm:

Senate Democrats pass "nuclear option"
 
archives said:
No it isn’t, it is under Federal authority, but it is not all Federal land, for example, the Georgetown area was not originally part of the District but is apart of the City today. If DC became a State the Government would rest on land not belonging to the State, it would still be independent
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T. A. Gardner said:
If DC became a state, the Republicans should start a national referendum to move the capitol somewhere else. Right now DC is a sort of "neutral ground." That was the intent. As a state, having nothing but the capitol of the country there is inherently unfair to the other 50 states. So, let them all make a decision on where the new US capitol will be.
That would turn the Democrat's move into a disaster for Democrats as the government is moved out of DC leaving it just a broken, rundown, slum of a failed city like Detroit or Baltimore.

Puerto Rico won't agree to becoming a state and you can't force it on them.
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Republicans don't make the decisions for where the capitol is.

BLHAHAHAHAHA!

Idiots!
 
Arks&sparka said:
They know that. It's just that the court is the only way they get any legislation passed. And they know the court can't reverse the decision if this is why they should use the normal method but their ideas are so unpopular it wouldn't work.

They are losing their only power.
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They know they can't get anything passed in the legislative manner in which it's supposed to be passed so they support the courts legislating it for them.
 
CFM said:
They know they can't get anything passed in the legislative manner in which it's supposed to be passed so they support the courts legislating it for them.
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Yeah once they lose that ability, they're going to have to go by popularity and it's a lot harder to get things past that way as it should be. These are people not their playthings.
 
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