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apparently you didnt get enough sleep last night...go back to bed, we all don't need to hear your dishonest whining for another whole day
Democratic strategist James Carville upset about oil spill; White House pushes back
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apparently you didnt get enough sleep last night...go back to bed, we all don't need to hear your dishonest whining for another whole day
Not surprising. Look, if you want this to end, you should just stay away from these threads, and stop mentioning my name as a "hack" (which is clearly a defensive reaction from someone who has been utterly humiliated). Either that, or just admit you were wrong.
One last time: what claim do you need me to back up?
This was a bad one for him today. He kept bringing up all of these various "memories" he had as we discussed the coverage of the Valdez, and it turns out they're verbatim from Beck.
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Not surprising. Look, if you want this to end, you should just stay away from these threads, and stop mentioning my name as a "hack" (which is clearly a defensive reaction from someone who has been utterly humiliated). Either that, or just admit you were wrong.
One last time: what claim do you need me to back up?
Shocker! He can't do it. You don't even know what claim you need a link for.
This was a priceless thread - another in a long list of Yurtsie idiocy, hypocrisy & just plain weirdness.
Nice going, Yurtsie!
zappasguitar
Well-known member
Shocker! He can't do it. You don't even know what claim you need a link for.
This was a priceless thread - another in a long list of Yurtsie idiocy, hypocrisy & just plain weirdness.
Nice going, Yurtsie!
can you believe it?!
Post after post of pure, uncut Yurtastic drivel!
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how cute...the two love birds zappy and dunceler ganging up on dear ol' yurt
of course, they have nothing of substance to offer
of course, they have nothing of substance to offer
zappasguitar
Well-known member
how cute...the two love birds zappy and dunceler ganging up on dear ol' yurt
of course, they have nothing of substance to offer
Now now now...let's not "attack the messenger" like you've been whining about all afternoon...
Do you ever take a moment to consider the potential irony before posting something?
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do you ever take a moment to consider thinking before posting something?
Oh, but I do! That's why, when I ask someone to back up a claim, I can actually tell them the claim that I want them to back up.
You should try that, Yurtsie!
Oh, but I do! That's why, when I ask someone to back up a claim, I can actually tell them the claim that I want them to back up.
You should try that, Yurtsie!
Yurt is a flaming San Fransexual.
Groan.
Damo, it’s amazing that your memories from 22 years ago are almost exactly like the talking points on Glenn Becks website.
Let’s face it: neither you, I, or anybody else can have reliable “memories” of press coverage from 22 years ago. Speculations, guesswork, and assertions don’t cut it. Glenn Beck can cherry pick a handful of factoids (interestingly, no links or sourcing provided to fact check it), but that amounts to little more than cherry picking facts to support a pre-determined conclusion. I see this tactic with climate science deniers all the time.
My recent recollection, which is more reliable than crap that happened 22 years ago, is that message board liberals have virtually never resorted to blaming Poppy, or harshing on him about Valdez. All the liberal comments on message boards that I can recall harshed on Exxon, and on the SCOTUS for providing cover for Exxon and screwing Alaska fisherman. While Exxon Valdez has been mentioned numerous times on this board, I don’t ever recall liberals screeching about Poppy.
I’m pissed off about this spill, and it’s beyond politics. I’m pissed at Obama, but there’s some salient facts that are undisputable. Exxon Valdez was a stranded tanker that was leaking oil. There was nothing to do but containment and cleanup. A blown out well 5000 feet down on the ocean floor is a whole other universe. No one appears to be quite sure how to contain it or deal with it. It reaches levels of complexity that are orders of magnitude beyond a stranded tanker. The brilliant Ayn Randian captains of industry promised us that they knew what they were doing, but obviously that was flat out wrong.
The oil companies flat out lied and acted with malicious intent in the events surrounding Valdez. The promised to have the proper equipment and crews in place and ready to go at a moments notice. It was all lies. They didn’t have the equipment, and they had phantom crews on “stand by”. That’s what people were pissed about. The oil companies are responsible for clean up. Not the US Taxpayer or the US Coast Guard.
In the context of destroyed Louisiana wetlands, destruction of fishing families, and dead pelicans, it is lame to guess and speculate on how mean the press was to Poppy.
christiefan915
Catalyst
I've been doing searches on Beck's claim that Bush's environmental approval rating went from 60 to 39% in 30 days and guess what? Nada, zero, zilch. It's only on Beck's site or sites where people quote from it. I suppose we'll have to take Beck's word for this statistic (ha ha).
christiefan915
Catalyst
I went back to Bush41 because your comment about this being Obama's Katrina is bogus. You're trying to compare a natural disaster with a man-made accident.
The Exxon spill and the BP explosion, both oil company disasters, both caused by the shady practices of those companies. It's not that hard to understand.
egordon0315
Just me.
So is my memory. de ja vous. This will be a exponentially bigger disaster, but at least it involves more than just New Orleans, so maybe the US will sit up and pay attention. Only 11 people died this time. Many more will be destroyed than the 1800+ killed after Katrina.
I'm sure you can imagine the lawyer ads that are on NO local TV soliciting suits and class action suits. BP is toast. Maybe because the US government is not at fault, initially, this will make a difference.
But we in Louisiana will never again expect the federal government to "man up". If this were San Francisco Bay or the New York harbor, the leak would have been sealed the first day.
egordon0315
Just me.
Sorry, my friend, but "Katrina" was a man-made disaster, too. And, quite frankly, caused, in part, by oil companies decimating the Louisiana protective wetlands, which allowed the storm surge which overcame the poorly designed and poorly constructed levees.
We're not over it down here.
And, now. This.
QFT
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
NFT