Democrat second biggest contributor has been arrested.

Guille said:
And you miss the point...there aren't two sides here.
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Again, being a bigger donor to the DEMS is because the DEMS didn't have larger contributors. The GOP did. So no matter how you slice it, this guy was a crook just hedging his bets as to who would pass favorable laws.
 
Guille said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
You'll never get that...people have differences, and will group under common problems and suggested solutions. I just want more alternatives...as a large portion of the wold seems to function with more than 2 political parties.
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I think you're wrong, political parties are artificial. The way I prefer to handle this is to armor up and go to war with my family by my side, fuck the political parties.
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Irrational and just plain absurd. So who are you going to fight? Everyone that disagrees with you? And if there are those who agree to side with you, that is a side in a social/civil war. If you "win", you're way is to establish a monarchy or oligarchy. History has shown that ain't good in the long run.

This is the problem with the MAGA folk....they believe/think that a fascist leaning lout like Trump is "for them". Trump's history prior to and including his run in politics tells a tale that is anything but that.

Nothing is perfect, but with more political parties you can challenge and alter how things are done for the masses.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Irrational and just plain absurd. So who are you going to fight? Everyone that disagrees with you? And if there are those who agree to side with you, that is a side in a social/civil war. If you "win", you're way is to establish a monarchy or oligarchy. History has shown that ain't good in the long run.

This is the problem with the MAGA folk....they believe/think that a fascist leaning lout like Trump is "for them". Trump's history prior to and including his run in politics tells a tale that is anything but that.

Nothing is perfect, but with more political parties you can challenge and alter how things are done for the masses.
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Ah...you think we're civilized. Well then why do you complain so much about the wrongs done to people? We're not civilized...as I said, I'll go to war with my family against all others.
 
Guille said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Again, being a bigger donor to the DEMS is because the DEMS didn't have larger contributors. The GOP did. So no matter how you slice it, this guy was a crook just hedging his bets as to who would pass favorable laws.
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We don't have two parties sweetcheeks.
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Yeah, we do.....one is just lesser the of two evils, depending on which side of the fence you're on. That's why both conspired to keep Nader off the debating stage during the 2000 Presidential campaign. He wouldn't have won, but he sure as hell would have changed the dynamic of campaign topics that the people would have taken to. Neither Dem or Repub wanted that!
 
Taichiliberal said:
Yeah, we do.....one is just lesser the of two evils, depending on which side of the fence you're on. That's why both conspired to keep Nader off the debating stage during the 2000 Presidential campaign. He wouldn't have won, but he sure as hell would have changed the dynamic of campaign topics that the people would have taken to. Neither Dem or Repub wanted that!
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No...we don't. "Both" sides are bought and paid for.
 
Guille said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Irrational and just plain absurd. So who are you going to fight? Everyone that disagrees with you? And if there are those who agree to side with you, that is a side in a social/civil war. If you "win", you're way is to establish a monarchy or oligarchy. History has shown that ain't good in the long run.

This is the problem with the MAGA folk....they believe/think that a fascist leaning lout like Trump is "for them". Trump's history prior to and including his run in politics tells a tale that is anything but that.

Nothing is perfect, but with more political parties you can challenge and alter how things are done for the masses.
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Ah...you think we're civilized. Well then why do you complain so much about the wrongs done to people? We're not civilized...as I said, I'll go to war with my family against all others.
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So by your "logic", since you can't win in political discourse, you immediately want to have another Civil War rather than confront the issue by starting another political party.

That's absurd, because the Tea Party demonstrated how to take over a political system without firing a shot! Hell, Ghandi led the way to TAKE BACK HIS COUNTRY without violence. King changed the dynamic of social discourse in a similar fashion.

Now, you keep spouting all this armchair tough guy guff....very similar to STY doing his Oather thing prior to Jan. 6th. Neither of you were at the Capitol the day of that attempted insurrection. But know this....the FBI has NOT laid into the white separatist/anti-gov't movement like they did in the 1960's against the Civil Rights and Anti-Vietnam War movements. If they did brother, you WOULD have your Turner Diaries wet dream come true...and like the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for.
 
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Taichiliberal said:
So by your "logic", since you can't win in political discourse, you immediately want to have another Civil War rather than confront the issue by starting another political party.

That's absurd, because the Tea Party demonstrated how to take over a political system without firing a shot! Hell, Ghandi led the way to TAKE BACK HIS COUNTRY without violence. King changed the dynamic of social discourse in a similar fashion.

Now, you keep spouting all this armchair tough guy guff....very similar to STY doing his Oather thing prior to Jan. 6th. Neither of you were at the Capitol the day of that attempted insurrection. But no this....the FBI has NOT laid into the white separatist/anti-gov't movement like they did in the 1960's against the Civil Rights and Anti-Vietnam War movements. If they did brother, you WOULD have your Turner Diaries wet dream come true...and like the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for.
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Here's the problem...you think "political discourse" matters. It doesn't.
 
Guille said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Yeah, we do.....one is just lesser the of two evils, depending on which side of the fence you're on. That's why both conspired to keep Nader off the debating stage during the 2000 Presidential campaign. He wouldn't have won, but he sure as hell would have changed the dynamic of campaign topics that the people would have taken to. Neither Dem or Repub wanted that!
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No...we don't. "Both" sides are bought and paid for.
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This is true.....but all by the same people for the same outcomes. But I will agree with you on this...the line between Dem and GOP is becoming thinner and more blurred as time goes by.

This is why you need a third party. It can be done, people just have to stop being jackasses to each other and agree on common ground and who is ( or are) the true enemy of the people.
 
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Guille said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
So by your "logic", since you can't win in political discourse, you immediately want to have another Civil War rather than confront the issue by starting another political party.

That's absurd, because the Tea Party demonstrated how to take over a political system without firing a shot! Hell, Ghandi led the way to TAKE BACK HIS COUNTRY without violence. King changed the dynamic of social discourse in a similar fashion.

Now, you keep spouting all this armchair tough guy guff....very similar to STY doing his Oather thing prior to Jan. 6th. Neither of you were at the Capitol the day of that attempted insurrection. But no this....the FBI has NOT laid into the white separatist/anti-gov't movement like they did in the 1960's against the Civil Rights and Anti-Vietnam War movements. If they did brother, you WOULD have your Turner Diaries wet dream come true...and like the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for.
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Here's the problem...you think "political discourse" matters. It doesn't.
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Then what is your alternative?
 
Taichiliberal said:
No one is denying the amount.....but think; all this means is that there were BIGGER donors to the GOP than the Dems. Understand?

When all is said and done, BOTH PARTIES ACCEPTED MONEY FROM A CROOK.

Third party set up, anyone?
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Yeah, OK :rolleyes:
 
Guille said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Then what is your alternative?
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What I'm already doing. Money, connections, and sometimes some other things I won't talk about here.
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So you actually have no real answer or course of action. You just spout off a lot of vague generalities, empty threats and empty rhetoric. Remember, YOU said both parties are "bought & paid for"....then you imply that you're going to join in or do the same with "money, connections". So in effect you're not offering any suggestion to correct the situation/problem, you just want to be a part of it. :palm:

Sorry, but you don't have the capitol to be a big player in local politics, let alone national. Too many right wing posters on various sites make all types of unproveable and unrealistic claims of wealth, professional job status, etc. I've found over the years that they do this to shore up their statements and assertions when facts and logical discourse won't. They spend way too much time on these sites to conduct any real business, which also may suggest they are just part of management or a paid troll. Also, their inability to logically, rationally and factually sustain a debate beyond a certain point dismisses any intellectual accreditation they may claim.

Like I said before, the OP misses the point that we're dealing with a bitcoin crook who buttered both sides of the political bread. That there were more wealthier GOP donators than him does NOT signify that he was/is a liberal democrat. It just means that there are more GOPers with deeper pockets.

That pretty much covers it here. If you've got any new angle to add, I'll respond. If not, I'll just move on.
 
Guille said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Then what is your alternative?
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No political parties. Just people talking to each other.
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A lofty sentiment. And after the "talk", then what? What if you don't get mutual agreement? Do you have a show of hands and majority rule? And how do you organize distribution of wealth, goods and services?

Like it or not, you're going to have to establish some sort of (GASP!) government to take care of business. In other words, what you need to do after you have your fantasy revolution.
 
RB 60 said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
No one is denying the amount.....but think; all this means is that there were BIGGER donors to the GOP than the Dems. Understand?

When all is said and done, BOTH PARTIES ACCEPTED MONEY FROM A CROOK.

Third party set up, anyone?
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Yeah, OK :rolleyes:
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Geez, you're such a child! You can't just flat out concede a point because I made it? GTFU, would ya please?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I am pretty sure the Epstein killed himself, and this guy is likely to go out the same way.
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Yeah, and there's a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell you cheap!

This guy is just a hustler who got caught. Epstein had papers on serious movers and shakers in the world doing dirty deeds. Big difference.
 
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