Democrat NO Check on Power in Senate: Stimulus to GROW even bigger

he def ran on tax cuts to 95% of people
if the economy was inflated by bogus housing numbers and bankers running a casino, why do dems think the economy needs to or can be bigger?
 
"Among the initiatives that could be cut are $50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts, $14 million for cyber security research by the Homeland Security Department, $1 billion for the National Science Foundation, $400 million for research and prevention of sexually transmitted diseases, $850 million for Amtrak and $400 million for climate change research. But so far, none of the suggestions come close to being enough to shrink the package on the scale proposed "

Personally, I don't think some of that stuff belongs in a STIMULUS package; I definitely think the climate stuff doesn't, but have defended the NEA funding, since there are lots of jobs there.

I agree that it isn't the time to get nitpicky, but it also wouldn't shock me if they put stuff like this in to begin with as bait & planned on cutting it, just to show some compromise. The fundamental intent & structure of the bill is not really changed. Also, it's my understanding that they have scheduled a vote, so I don't think they plan to get mired in this stuff; from what Obama is saying, he's pushing it forward.

The GOP is truly pissed, btw. Lindsey Graham just made a big statement about how Obama isn't including them & showing leadership, which stands in such contrast to so many comments on this board regarding how Obama is letting them run w/ the bill...
 
Onceler said:
"Among the initiatives that could be cut are $50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts, $14 million for cyber security research by the Homeland Security Department, $1 billion for the National Science Foundation, $400 million for research and prevention of sexually transmitted diseases, $850 million for Amtrak and $400 million for climate change research. But so far, none of the suggestions come close to being enough to shrink the package on the scale proposed "

Personally, I don't think some of that stuff belongs in a STIMULUS package; I definitely think the climate stuff doesn't, but have defended the NEA funding, since there are lots of jobs there.

I agree that it isn't the time to get nitpicky, but it also wouldn't shock me if they put stuff like this in to begin with as bait & planned on cutting it, just to show some compromise. The fundamental intent & structure of the bill is not really changed. Also, it's my understanding that they have scheduled a vote, so I don't think they plan to get mired in this stuff; from what Obama is saying, he's pushing it forward.

The GOP is truly pissed, btw. Lindsey Graham just made a big statement about how Obama isn't including them & showing leadership, which stands in such contrast to so many comments on this board regarding how Obama is letting them run w/ the bill...
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The GOP isn't pissed at all. They're pretending to be pissed, getting whatever concessions they can get their hands on, will claim they aren't enough and that they were shut out and won't vote for the final bill. That's the game. Why would you accept anything they say at face value?

The list above isn't even close to being exhaustive. If you want to look at the "centrist" wish list you can go here:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/Collins-Nelson-Cuts/?resultpage=1&

And these are the "centrists."
 
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