Democrat Mary Peltola defeats Sarah Palin in special election for Alaska's House seat

Walt said:
And yet over 51% voted for her? If they keep up that "horror" for the next two months, then Peltola will win again.
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No, you don't understand ranked voting. More like 35% which would be all the dims in the state. The votes for #'s 3 - 22 all went to Palin and Peltola.

Walt said:
Peltola is a Yup'ik, a tribe that has been in the Bethel area 10,000 years before the federal government even existed. They stay there because it is their home.
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I know more about Bethel than you can ever find on Wlikipedia. FFS, I work there 10 - 12 weeks a year in my semi-retirement.
 
floridafan said:
You know nothing about Alaska
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Maybe one of the "progressives" here can explain to FF that I've been living in AK since '99 and as the former state dental director of their community health centers I've worked in clinics in Metalakatla, Ketchikan, Wrangell, Anchorage, Talkeetna, Fairbanks and Bethel. I don't believe I'm capable of lowering myself to where I can explain this in simple enough terms to FF (fuckface?).
floridafan said:
You know nothing about Peltota
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That is correct. Very few in AK do. She got all the votes from all the dims in the state because she was the only one running with a (D) before her name.
 
anonymoose said:
No, you don't understand ranked voting. More like 35% which would be all the dims in the state. The votes for #'s 3 - 22 all went to Palin and Peltola.
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Peltola got 40% of the first votes, not 35%. In a three way race, she came in first. Then Begich voters were given a choice that if they could not have Begich, who would they want. That created a head to head between Peltola and Palin, which gave Peltola 51.5%.
 
anonymoose said:
Maybe one of the "progressives" here can explain to FF that I've been living in AK since '99 and as the former state dental director of their community health centers I've worked in clinics in Metalakatla, Ketchikan, Wrangell, Anchorage, Talkeetna, Fairbanks and Bethel. I don't believe I'm capable of lowering myself to where I can explain this in simple enough terms to FF (fuckface?). That is correct. Very few in AK do. She got all the votes from all the dims in the state because she was the only one running with a (D) before her name.
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Suc h complete bull shit!
 
anonymoose said:
She got all the votes from all the dims in the state because she was the only one running with a (D) before her name.
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She got 51.5% of the vote, because she was not Palin. The majority of Alaskans do not want Palin. The majority of Alaskan Republicans do want Palin. Those two facts make it impossible for Republicans to win.
 
Walt said:
Peltola got 40% of the first votes, not 35%. In a three way race, she came in first. Then Begich voters were given a choice that if they could not have Begich, who would they want. That created a head to head between Peltola and Palin, which gave Peltola 51.5%.
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Correct. I was estimating. Sounds about right, 40% dems in AK. Most that voted for Begich did not put Palin as the second choice. And Palin encouraged her supporters to vote for Peltola as their 2nd . She and Begich hate each other.
 
Walt said:
She got 51.5% of the vote, because she was not Palin. The majority of Alaskans do not want Palin. The majority of Alaskan Republicans do want Palin. Those two facts make it impossible for Republicans to win.
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That is possible. Like I said earlier I can't stand Palin. I'm sure Peltola is a very nice person. Most folks from Bethel are. But I know their politcs and I have no doubt she will consistently vote against the best interests of AK. Even Mark Begich, who is far more politically savvy than Peltola couldn't bring himself to vote in AK's best interests only to stay on the good side of the rest of the dims in the senate. Hence, his political career is over. Now he's a lobbyist.
 
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Walt said:
And yet over 51% voted for her? If they keep up that "horror" for the next two months, then Peltola will win again.
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As Wednesday began, Peltola had nearly 75,000 votes, or nearly 40 percent, followed by Palin with more than 58,000, or 31 percent; and Begich, another Republican, with more than 52,000, or 28 percent. Another 3,000, or less than 2 percent, went for write-in candidates.
Although Peltola supports Democratic pillars such as abortion access, she diverges from her caucus on some of the more traditional issues associated with her solid-GOP state, like guns and energy policy.

“Guns are a part of Alaska’s culture and a core tool of a subsistence lifestyle,” she told the Anchorage Daily News earlier this month. “I grew up hunting, my husband is a hunter, and I will continue to own guns and defend the right of Alaskans to own guns.”

She also told the newspaper that she prioritizes promoting Alaskan-produced oil and gas as a way for the nation to become more energy-independent.
https://rollcall.com/2022/08/31/peltola-wins-alaska-special-election-to-fill-youngs-house-seat/


Another Sinema and Manchin except in the House?
So the two repubs got 59% of the first choice vote while the dem got 40%.

Speaking to Alaska’s News Source after the results came out, Palin encouraged Begich to “take one for the team” and criticized the ranked-choice voting system.

“If he could take one for the team — the team being Alaska — that’s what I would do. Had I not prevailed as that second, I would have said, ‘You know what, what can we do to ensure — even when costing me personally, potentially a position in Congress — what can we do to ensure that Alaska’s future is secure?’” Palin said.

She went on to say regarding Peltola that “as a person, I love her” but admitted they represent “very polarizing views.”

Begich released a statement congratulating Peltola. He also questioned how Peltola will represent Alaskans and encouraged voters not to vote for Palin in the general election.

“The biggest lesson as we move into the 2022 General Election, is that ranked choice voting showed that a vote for Sarah Palin is in reality a vote for Mary Peltola,” Begich wrote. “Palin simply doesn’t have enough support from Alaskans to win an election.”
https://www.alaskasnewssource.com/2...rst-alaska-native-first-female-congresswoman/

Palin will not drop out. I'll probably vote 1. Begich 2. Libertarian Chris Bye 3. Palin* 4. Peltola

*While holding nose, then a long warm shower.
 
Walt said:
The November election will be this same election, with the same candidates, and process, just two months later. The only thing that will change in those two months is that Peltola will be more known, and seem more reasonable.

There is one other thing that will change, that might give you hope. Turnout will probably be higher in a November election. But that means more moderates, who really do not want a fascist like Palin.
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inflation is the factor at the polls this year, happens every time democrats come in and drive prices through the roof while slashing retirements
 
Stringfellow Hawk said:
inflation is the factor at the polls this year, happens every time democrats come in and drive prices through the roof while slashing retirements
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The abortion issue is a much more important issue to women, then we have the ongoing trump saga, which has taken the air and enthusiasm out of the GOP. If inflation was that big, Palin would have won.
 
anonymoose said:
That is possible. Like I said earlier I can't stand Palin. I'm sure Peltola is a very nice person. Most folks from Bethel are. But I know their politcs and I have no doubt she will consistently vote against the best interests of AK. Even Mark Begich, who is far more politically savvy than Peltola couldn't bring himself to vote in AK's best interests only to stay on the good side of the rest of the dims in the senate. Hence, his political career is over. Now he's a lobbyist.
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Mark Begich was mayor of Anchorage. If you eliminate the cities, and the more rural areas of Alaska (like the Bethel region) what do you have left? There is not much of Alaska represented.

The majority of Alaska is Republican, so a saner Republican is going to win. The majority of Alaskan Republicans are crazy, so a saner Republican is going to have trouble winning the Republican nomination. Given a choice, more and more of the saner Republicans are willing to vote for a Democrat over a crazier Republican.

The Southern Democrats had a similar problem, except the Democratic Party kept the saner ones, and gave up on the crazier ones. And thus the solid Democratic South became the Solid Republican South. There is a good chance that Palin(and the rest of the crazies) can hand Alaska over to the Democrats for a few decades.
 
Stringfellow Hawk said:
Palin like Hillary was a documented loser, she was not expected to win
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Like Hillary, Palin is a major loser whining about her loss.

Our nation needs less fucking morons and whiners in leadership positions. Pedo Don is twice the whiner Palin and Hillary have ever been.
 
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