Crisis in the Gulf is the fault of Environmentalists!

Prissy, you are a fraud. You've probably never held a regular job anywhere, much less in the oil industry. I don't believe a word you have to say on this subject, just like I don't trust anything you have to say on much of anything, because you've proven to be a habitual liar over and over again.
 
Dixie said:
But it's important to remember the reason this catastrophe is so impossible to deal with. The rig was located some 50 miles offshore, in water a mile deep. Why do we have oil rigs 50 miles out into the ocean? Well, because, when people go visit the lovely beaches of Mississippi and Louisiana, they certainly don't want to see those eyesore rigs on the horizon! Environmentalists insisted that if we drill in the Gulf, it has to be far enough out that no one can visually see them from the coast. It is because we allowed this regulated restriction, that we have an impossible problem on our hands now.
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Yeah, the beach businesses would have been happy with those rigs in close. You have a bit of a point on the Alaska thing, but moving them out of sight is due mostly to the NIMBY attitude.

BP/Transocean are to blame and they should be held responsible. They should be driven out of business for this, but our government decided to protect them from the result of their mistakes.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
So what you're suggesting is that we can trust BP to do for ecologically sensitive areas, like the California and Alaskan reserves, what they've done for the Gulf Coast? Nice Topper, Nice!

Well lets look at the bright side Topper. If the Gulf Coast wasn't an ecologically sensitive region, it is now! And we have BP to thank for that. :)

Damn those turbolibs to hell!

Thank God there's responsible companies, like BP, we can count on to do things the right way. [/sarcasm]
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mott as usual your thinking is about as deep as a curb puddle. I've said on here many times I want BP skull dragged. But I want it to be because they were negligent and not acting like other majors. I know I shouldn't expect much from a buckeye fan who couldn't even get into Ohio slow.
 
Cypress said:
Because that's where the only remaining large oil fields are in the gulf of mexcio, dummy.


The inner continental shelf on the gulf has been drilled like swiss cheese for 50 years. All the major oil fields have been found there. The only elephant fields left are in the deep water. I know this. The oil companies know this. Apparently, a buffoon like you doesn't know this.

I realize you heard this bullshit on some rightwing blog, but trust me you've been easily duped. Again. I am intimately familiar with oil exploration in the gulf of mexico, so if I were you I would just stop believing whatever you read on the Sarah Palin twitter.

Thanks for the comedy.


p.s. Dr. Dixie: they are still routinely drilling production and outpost wells on the inner continental shelf of the gulf. What made you think they're not?? The Glenn Beck facebook page? Nearly every day of the week someone is drilling wells in on the gulf shelf near land. Some of my well were drilled within view of land. How do I know? Because when I choppered out to the rig I could still see louisiana.
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Bullshit Cypress, I was trying to figure out if you were a Geologist. No you are not. Cause that was funny shit. An Elephant field was just found in 50 ft of water off Louisiana. Florida's shelf hasn't been explored in 30 years. You must have been a technical assistant. You know some lingo so you think your an expert.
 
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[ QUOTE=Cypress;656020]Because that's where the only remaining large oil fields are in the gulf of mexcio, dummy.


The inner continental shelf on the gulf has been drilled like swiss cheese for 50 years. All the major oil fields have been found there. The only elephant fields left are in the deep water. I know this. The oil companies know this. Apparently, a buffoon like you doesn't know this.

I realize you heard this bullshit on some rightwing blog, but trust me you've been easily duped. Again. I am intimately familiar with oil exploration in the gulf of mexico, so if I were you I would just stop believing whatever you read on the Sarah Palin twitter.

Thanks for the comedy.


p.s. Dr. Dixie: they are still routinely drilling production and outpost wells on the inner continental shelf of the gulf. What made you think they're not?? The Glenn Beck facebook page? Nearly every day of the week someone is drilling wells in on the gulf shelf near land. Some of my well were drilled within view of land. How do I know? Because when I choppered out to the rig I could still see louisiana.[/QUOTE]
 
cypress those are 5 yr old talking points, Again take a look at discoveries in the last 3 years on the shelf. Take a look at HALF THE GULF that hasn't allowed drilling in 30 years. We'd still be in the deep drilling probably just a fraction of what's going on today though.
 
Topspin said:
cypress those are 5 yr old talking points, Again take a look at discoveries in the last 3 years on the shelf. Take a look at HALF THE GULF that hasn't allowed drilling in 30 years. We'd still be in the deep drilling probably just a fraction of what's going on today though.
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I'm fully aware of what parts of the gulf are drilled, having been involved in numerous lease sales. And I know what my oil finder friends are doing, even though I've been out of the industry.

The only part of the gulf that is significantly off limits is the eastern, near flordia. No doubt, here's still oil to be had in the shallow water - the inner shelf - , but its mostly the subsalt plays, and outpost development of existing fields. As I said - outpost and development drilling.

This isn't florida. This spill is louisiana. And the citizens of louisiana, texas, alabama and mississipi are all very much into drilling. Dixie's post is a bunch of bullshit that he read on a rightwing blog.

The point is that The oil barons would still be drilling the deep water - the outer shelf and continental slope - no matter what. That's where the gi-nourmous untapped fields are. Proven fact. Tree huggers didn't force them to drill the deep water. That's complete bullshit. They drilled the deep water because those fields are cash cows. Its a fact that the deep water play is the most prolific exploration region in north america. That's where most of the untapped, multi-billion barrel fields are. It all comes down to money, not to some dirty hippies being mean to the oil barons.
 
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Dixie Bullshits the Board on Treehuggers

We routinely drilled the deep water plays off of Angola and Nigeria.

Why?

Not because some Angolan tree huggers forced us to go out into the deep water. There's is no viable environmental advocacy groups in Angola.

We did it because of money and profit. The deep water plays in west Africa and the Gulf of Mexico are gi-normous cash cows.
 
I said we would be doing some deep, I'm guessing you were a land guy. Florida has not been explored for 30 yrs in the shelf. There is Zero way you can legitimately write that off as not having oil.
 
Topspin said:
I said we would be doing some deep, I'm guessing you were a land guy. Florida has not been explored for 30 yrs in the shelf. There is Zero way you can legitimately write that off as not having oil.
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Yeah, but the bottom line is the premise of Dixie's meme was complete bullshit. The premise that tree huggers forced oil companies to drill deep water plays is about as laughable as the "climate gate" comedy.

And we're still drilling most of the shallow water gulf - have been for 50 years. That was another of Dixie's laughable memes. How many times can one klansman be wrong?

I say we drill where ever local citizens want us to, where it makes economic and environmental sense, and where we can have some jack booted regulatory thugs forcing the oil barons to behave responsibly.

Land guy, offshore guy. I did it all, mate. My favorite was the deep water GOM and deep water west africa plays. We found a shit load of oil and it was a barrel of fun.

Good to have guys like you bean counting and keeping the books for us! :clink:
 
Cypress said:
Yeah, but the bottom line is the premise of Dixie's meme was complete bullshit. The premise that tree huggers forced oil companies to drill deep water plays is about as laughable as the "climate gate" comedy.

And we're still drilling most of the shallow water gulf - have been for 50 years. That was another of Dixie's laughable memes. How many times can one klansman be wrong?

I say we drill where ever local citizens want us to, where it makes economic and environmental sense, and where we can have some jack booted regulatory thugs forcing the oil barons to behave responsibly.

Land guy, offshore guy. I did it all, mate. My favorite was the deep water GOM and deep water west africa plays. We found a shit load of oil and it was a barrel of fun.

Good to have guys like you bean counting and keeping the books for us! :clink:
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Blow me with the your finding oil, scouts and landmen are lawyerly like pencil geeks like the accountants. Which is gool, the Geo's are the dorkiest humans I've ever met "rock sniffers".
Again, why would you drill deep if there are billions of barrells in the shelf.
 
Cypress said:
I'm fully aware of what parts of the gulf are drilled, having been involved in numerous lease sales. And I know what my oil finder friends are doing, even though I've been out of the industry.

The only part of the gulf that is significantly off limits is the eastern, near flordia. No doubt, here's still oil to be had in the shallow water - the inner shelf - , but its mostly the subsalt plays, and outpost development of existing fields. As I said - outpost and development drilling.

This isn't florida. This spill is louisiana. And the citizens of louisiana, texas, alabama and mississipi are all very much into drilling. Dixie's post is a bunch of bullshit that he read on a rightwing blog.

The point is that The oil barons would still be drilling the deep water - the outer shelf and continental slope - no matter what. That's where the gi-nourmous untapped fields are. Proven fact. Tree huggers didn't force them to drill the deep water. That's complete bullshit. They drilled the deep water because those fields are cash cows. Its a fact that the deep water play is the most prolific exploration region in north america. That's where most of the untapped, multi-billion barrel fields are. It all comes down to money, not to some dirty hippies being mean to the oil barons.
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or, as I said to Dixie "Cause dat's where the Elephants are!"
 
Topspin said:
Blow me with the your finding oil, scouts and landmen are lawyerly like pencil geeks like the accountants. Which is gool, the Geo's are the dorkiest humans I've ever met "rock sniffers".
Again, why would you drill deep if there are billions of barrells in the shelf.
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Ha! just giving you shit, mate.

Here's a tip, bro: when the USGS, or whoever, talks about "billions of barrels" in the shallow water florida shelf, they're not talking about one or two elephant fields. They're talking about dispersed, and relatively small fields which may or may not be economic to develop. 500 tiny fields with ten million barrels each, is a whole different (and crappier) play, than one giant deep water field with a billion barrels.

Pretty much All the elephants in the shallow water have been found. Whatever is in shallow water florida ain't going to be a monolithic, billion barrel field.

That's why the big boys drill the deep water plays, bro. Those fields are gi-nourmous. The geology there is favorable to untapped gi-normous fields. You aren't going to find any more 500 thick sands with 400 feet of net oil pay that are in pressure communication in the inner shelf. Unless, maybe you go subsalt. But all that shit is deltaic deposits. It's not favorable to finding massive, untapped, single multi-billion barrel reservoirs. I could be wrong, but I'll bet you a weeks paycheck they will never find single, pressure-connected multi-billion barrel field in less than 300 feet of water in the GOM.


Bottom line: Dixie's bullshit post was wrong on all counts. A
 
Mr. Spite said:
It would be an even better starting point to at least hold companies accountable for the full scale of the damages they inflict. The 75 million dollar oil spill liability cap makes offshore drilling possible by giving oil companies all the profits of offshore drilling with barely any real liability.
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Yup. I mentioned that several times. It's stupid to limit that liability. If they cause Billions in damage they need to pay those billions to fix their "mistake"...
 
RStringfield said:
Yeah, the beach businesses would have been happy with those rigs in close. You have a bit of a point on the Alaska thing, but moving them out of sight is due mostly to the NIMBY attitude.

BP/Transocean are to blame and they should be held responsible. They should be driven out of business for this, but our government decided to protect them from the result of their mistakes.
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That's because we're addicted to oil. You going to be the one brave enough to tell all those rednecks out there their going to either pay $5/gallon gas or give up their F150's? Not me brother! I aint that brave! LOL
 
Topspin said:
Blow me with the your finding oil, scouts and landmen are lawyerly like pencil geeks like the accountants. Which is gool, the Geo's are the dorkiest humans I've ever met "rock sniffers".
Again, why would you drill deep if there are billions of barrells in the shelf.
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OIL MAN FIGHT!

Rock Sniffer vs Barrel Counter!!!

This should be on PPV!! :-)

:corn:
 
Cypress said:
Ha! just giving you shit, mate.

Here's a tip, bro: when the USGS, or whoever, talks about "billions of barrels" in the shallow water florida shelf, they're not talking about one or two elephant fields. They're talking about dispersed, and relatively small fields which may or may not be economic to develop. 500 tiny fields with ten million barrels each, is a whole different (and crappier) play, than one giant deep water field with a billion barrels.

Pretty much All the elephants in the shallow water have been found. Whatever is in shallow water florida ain't going to be a monolithic, billion barrel field.

That's why the big boys drill the deep water plays, bro. Those fields are gi-nourmous. The geology there is favorable to untapped gi-normous fields. You aren't going to find any more 500 thick sands with 400 feet of net oil pay that are in pressure communication in the inner shelf. Unless, maybe you go subsalt. But all that shit is deltaic deposits. It's not favorable to finding massive, untapped, single multi-billion barrel reservoirs. I could be wrong, but I'll bet you a weeks paycheck they will never find single, pressure-connected multi-billion barrel field in less than 300 feet of water in the GOM.


Bottom line: Dixie's bullshit post was wrong on all counts. A
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Bullshit 100%, your out of touch now. Anadarko just found an elephant right next to one of our shelf fields. 3d siesmic and other tech has opened up a lot of the once thought drilled out shelf plays.
 
Damocles said:
Yup. I mentioned that several times. It's stupid to limit that liability. If they cause Billions in damage they need to pay those billions to fix their "mistake"...
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You'll have next to no drilling with unlimited liability. That 10 billion cap will get squashed, it's purely political posturing.
 
Topspin said:
Bullshit 100%, your out of touch now. Anadarko just found an elephant right next to one of our shelf fields. 3d siesmic and other tech has opened up a lot of the once thought drilled out shelf plays.
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Not to interrupt you dickswingers, but the fact remains that Dixie is 100% full of shit.
 
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