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PostmodernProphet said:
lol.....I gave you an answer that would have given me a passing grade in any graduate level class on exegesis.....I suspect the problem is with a confused reader.....
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I have read exegesis on various verses/chapters of the Bible and your answer was not, from my reading, worthy of a passing grade level for a graduate level class on exegesis.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
actually, I would say I study it.....to determine what it actually is saying......if by ignoring your incorrect and unstudied conclusions about what it says in favor of an educated understanding you mean "cherry pick" then I guess I will have to concede.....


I have no idea....since the Bible doesn't state how long ago I could only give you a number by making one up......and its hardly a "fundamental" point....my Bible is close to an inch and a half thick and only two pages are devoted to Noah.....

further, I have never demanded you prove anything that happened 4 billion years ago.....I merely want you to realize you can't, and that what you believe about it is no less a faith choice than those made by anyone else.....
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So, the ages of the patriarchs and the genealogies of the Bible are not factual, not literal, but figurative?

The Bible states that Noah was 500 years old when his son Japheth was born, is this to be interpreted as fact? Or is it figurative.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
actually, I would say I study it.....to determine what it actually is saying......if by ignoring your incorrect and unstudied conclusions about what it says in favor of an educated understanding you mean "cherry pick" then I guess I will have to concede.....


I have no idea....since the Bible doesn't state how long ago I could only give you a number by making one up......and its hardly a "fundamental" point....my Bible is close to an inch and a half thick and only two pages are devoted to Noah.....

further, I have never demanded you prove anything that happened 4 billion years ago.....I merely want you to realize you can't, and that what you believe about it is no less a faith choice than those made by anyone else.....
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You pervert and twist its words to make it say what you want the same as you do everywhere else. Indicate means proves, macroevolution does not include evolution above species, etc. There is a pattern you have established and it is not poetic it's lying.
 
Rana said:
I have read exegesis on various verses/chapters of the Bible and your answer was not, from my reading, worthy of a passing grade level for a graduate level class on exegesis.
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something tells me you will never be in a position to grade graduate level theology.....
 
Rana said:
So, the ages of the patriarchs and the genealogies of the Bible are not factual, not literal, but figurative?

The Bible states that Noah was 500 years old when his son Japheth was born, is this to be interpreted as fact? Or is it figurative.
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they aren't genealogies......ask a Jew.....
 
Professor Baxter said:
You pervert and twist its words to make it say what you want the same as you do everywhere else. Indicate means proves, macroevolution does not include evolution above species, etc. There is a pattern you have established and it is not poetic it's lying.
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and to you, not possible means possible, evolution means humans have moldy ancestors, and there is scientific proof for all your wildest fantasies which you will someday provide once its found.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
actually, I would say I study it.....to determine what it actually is saying......if by ignoring your incorrect and unstudied conclusions about what it says in favor of an educated understanding you mean "cherry pick" then I guess I will have to concede.....


I have no idea....since the Bible doesn't state how long ago I could only give you a number by making one up......and its hardly a "fundamental" point....my Bible is close to an inch and a half thick and only two pages are devoted to Noah.....

further, I have never demanded you prove anything that happened 4 billion years ago.....I merely want you to realize you can't, and that what you believe about it is no less a faith choice than those made by anyone else.....
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It is a fundamental point. You claim this event preserved life and started the repopulation of the world.

Your problem is that you are too stupid to get that the origin of life and evolution are different. Evolution is a proven fact, including macroevolution and common descent are proven facts. How life originated is still a bit of a mystery but we don't need your magic and shortcuts to explain it. They don't.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
and to you, not possible means possible, evolution means humans have moldy ancestors, and there is scientific proof for all your wildest fantasies which you will someday provide once its found.....
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No, it does not. Never made any such claims. You are lying and providing vague bullshit again.
 
as for preserving life....given what we know today about genetics and breeding techniques.....if we foresaw a disaster and need to prepare an ark to preserve the wildlife of earth, how many genomes would we have to gather to recover life as we know it over the following 20k to 50k years.....
 
You won't give an answer on the age of the flood event because it weakens your argument. As I stated, the more distant we make this flood event the less reliable your only proof, vague and inconsistent myths, becomes. You are in a trap. You have to lie about and twist your Bible to make it fit the science but your Bible is the only source. If it's all just a book of poetry then it's not very useful. If there is no legitimate or definitive way to tell what is literal and what is poetry, you have not provided or shown you have any clue how to, then it is not very useful. You have destroyed your own bedrock and cant tell us simple facts about what happened halfway through the existence of mankind while you demand proof of what happened at the dawn of all life.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
you keep claiming that but you never seem to remember which pocket you left that proof in.......
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I know where it is. I have provided plenty of specifics but you are just trying to change the subject again.

Age of the flood event? Does evolution explain diversity beyond "kinds," e.g., amongst carnivora?

I am asking you simple questions on your stance, not to prove anything.
 
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Professor Baxter said:
You won't give an answer on the age of the flood event because it weakens your argument.
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???......actually, its because I don't know what the answer is......no one does.....the Bible doesn't say......though four chapters later we find the words " From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth.", which would imply that at the time of the flood everyone lived pretty much in the same place......
 
Professor Baxter said:
I know where it is. I have provided plenty of specifics
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nothing that precludes the possibility that the creature was simply created.....in order to "prove" macro evolution you would have to demonstrate its the only way it could have happened......everything you've provided is simply a circular argument......it existed, therefore it had to have evolved from something else.....

just admit its a faith choice you've made and take a nap.....
 
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