Crazy Trump's tariffs are backfiring on the U.S.

And to add, Clinton passed Nafta, while Obama proposed TPP, which met the scorn of the GOP and some Democrats.
Bernie was against TPP. Hillary supported it as Sec of State but then turned against as the candidate as she was getting pressure from her left flank and Trump's populism.
 
I've never made any such argument; stop lying. Tariffs are not a "big increase in costs"; they are quite small in the grand scheme of things.

First you need to get my argument correct and actually address MY argument.

Continued denial of history and of actual arguments presented.
You continue to demonstrate how little you know about business.

Tariff rates ranging from 20-35% are a huge increase in costs for almost all businesses.

These are not minor impacts companies can just eat.


...The Detroit Three automakers are taking a big hit from the Trump administration's tariffs, and industry experts say only one thing can stop the bleeding for the North American auto industry — a trade deal with low tariff rates for the industry.

General Motors, Ford and Stellantis have all reported tariff impacts in the billions on recent earnings calls.

Ford said on Wednesday that it took an $800-million US (about $1.1 billion Cdn) hit for the second quarter as a result of tariffs.

Ford CEO Jim Farley said the company is in daily contact with the White House, with an ultimate goal of reducing its tariff costs, especially on parts tariffs. "We see there's a lot of upside depending on how the negotiation goes with the administration," Farley said....

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You continue to demonstrate how little you know about business.
This is your issue, not mine. You also continue to demonstrate how little you know about tariffs.
Tariff rates ranging from 20-35% are a huge increase in costs for almost all businesses.
They really aren't. Remember, they apply to WHOLESALE prices, NOT retail.
These are not minor impacts companies can just eat.
Yes they are, and companies DO eat them. Even numerous fake news leftist media sources are starting to admit that such is occurring.
...The Detroit Three automakers are taking a big hit from the Trump administration's tariffs, and industry experts say only one thing can stop the bleeding for the North American auto industry — a trade deal with low tariff rates for the industry.
"Industry experts say" ... :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:
@IBDaMann , your "red flag density scan" catches all sorts of stupid/dishonest phrases like this, doesn't it?
General Motors, Ford and Stellantis have all reported tariff impacts in the billions on recent earnings calls.
"tariff impacts" :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:

Do you know how many billions of dollars those companies rake in?? A couple billion is chump change. They could also manufacture their vehicles in the USA and pay ZERO tariffs.
Ford said on Wednesday that it took an $800-million US (about $1.1 billion Cdn) hit for the second quarter as a result of tariffs.
Oh booooo hoooooooooooo :rofl2: :rofl2:
MANUFACTURE YOUR PRODUCT IN THE USA THEN!!!!
Ford CEO Jim Farley said the company is in daily contact with the White House, with an ultimate goal of reducing its tariff costs, especially on parts tariffs. "We see there's a lot of upside depending on how the negotiation goes with the administration," Farley said....

Cite
See above.
 
Bernie was against TPP. Hillary supported it as Sec of State but then turned against as the candidate as she was getting pressure from her left flank and Trump's populism.
Had it come off China today wouldn’t be extending its influence and reach across the Far East and over the rest of the world today
 
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They really aren't. Remember, they apply to WHOLESALE prices, NOT retail.

Yes they are, and companies DO eat them. Even numerous fake news leftist media sources are starting to admit that such is occurring.
...
You continue with your stupidity.

When steel or other things are tariff increasing the cost to manufacture a car that is NOT the wholesale price being affected. You do not even know what a wholesale price is you nitwit.

It this the COST OF GOODS that is being impacted.

And companies absolutely pass their costs on.

Tariffs are not magic. They are not the sole increase in cost of goods companies say 'these we will eat'. Tariffs are no different, in the companies considerations than any other cost increase. They add them all up and apply the margin and profit goals of the company on top.
 
This is your issue, not mine. You also continue to demonstrate how little you know about tariffs.

They really aren't. Remember, they apply to WHOLESALE prices, NOT retail.

Yes they are, and companies DO eat them. Even numerous fake news leftist media sources are starting to admit that such is occurring.

"Industry experts say" ... :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:
@IBDaMann , your "red flag density scan" catches all sorts of stupid/dishonest phrases like this, doesn't it?

"tariff impacts" :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:

Do you know how many billions of dollars those companies rake in?? A couple billion is chump change. They could also manufacture their vehicles in the USA and pay ZERO tariffs.

Oh booooo hoooooooooooo :rofl2: :rofl2:
MANUFACTURE YOUR PRODUCT IN THE USA THEN!!!!

See above.
Stupid WHOLESALE prices are what the retailer pays for the products they sell to you and the retailer will raise the price to you to keep their profit margin.
They like the manufacture, exporting countries, and anybody else that has to pay for these products in the supply chain may eat a part of these tariff some won't eat any of them and will pass them on to the US consumer.
And some may even tack on an extra percent or two to pad their bottom line.
And if an American manufacture like the US auto industry buys parts that have a tariff on them they will be increasing their price to cover the costs, the also have a profit margin.
In fact they have already had to increased their prices by 5 or 6 thousand dollars to keep their profit margin.
Trumps tariffs are too high and are only going to hurt the AMERICAN CONSUMER.
 
And once again:
And prices are already starting to increase and MAGAS are too stupid to realize it yet, and NOT all of Trumps tariffs have worked their way through the supply chain yet .
A lot of companies bought and stocked up on a lot of products and stored them before the Tariffs went on and they are starting to run out of them and the new higher cost goods will be hitting the shelves soon.
Maybe when Trumps tariffs start to bite them in the ass they will wake up.
A lot of them can't see that when the price of most everything you buy goes up they can effect other things, like if a landlord has increases in the upkeep of the house he rents he may pass those costs on to the person that rents it in higher rents and this could end up hurting the poor working class even more MAGAS included.
Tariffs as high as the ones Trump is putting on good are NOT good for the US economy.
I wonder what the next DEM will have to do to get us out of a recession / depression Trump is driving us into.
Republican Presidents drive us into Recessions and Dem Presidents have to get us out of them like they have the last 4 or 5 times.
 
You continue with your stupidity.

When steel or other things are tariff increasing the cost to manufacture a car that is NOT the wholesale price being affected. You do not even know what a wholesale price is you nitwit.

It this the COST OF GOODS that is being impacted.

And companies absolutely pass their costs on.

Tariffs are not magic. They are not the sole increase in cost of goods companies say 'these we will eat'. Tariffs are no different, in the companies considerations than any other cost increase. They add them all up and apply the margin and profit goals of the company on top.
:blah:
RAAA.
 
You and @QP! don't understand what wholesale prices are.
NO it is YOU that doesn't understand what WHOLESALE prices are.
The Wholesale price is what the manufacture charges and the RETAILER pays for the product he sells to you.
If the manufacture increases their price ( the wholesale price ) the retailer has to pay it and then it is up to them if they will pass it on to the consumer.
What do you think it is?
 
You and @QP! don't understand what wholesale prices are.
You are stupid and do not understand what a Wholesaler is.

A big tire shop buying in bulk and selling to independent dealers is a wholesaler. IF the price of the steal in the tire goes up before the wholesaler buys and resells that tire, that price of steel going up is not the wholesale price.

Be less stupid.

Chinese (other?) company = manufacturer of item or product. US company buys items as manufacturer or Retailer and pays tariffs... Tariffs are added in to retail price customers pay.

That type of relationship is the vast, vast majority of trade impacted by trump tariffs.
 
NO it is YOU that doesn't understand what WHOLESALE prices are.
The Wholesale price is what the manufacture charges and the RETAILER pays for the product he sells to you.
If the manufacture increases their price ( the wholesale price ) the retailer has to pay it and then it is up to them if they will pass it on to the consumer.
What do you think it is?
The segment of Wholesalers in business does not apply to the manufacturer or the retailer and is typically an aggregator of good in between the two who has nothing to do with manufacturing or selling the item retail.

So again you have a lot of independent car dealerships who want to sell tires. If they try to buy direct the cost is too high. A wholesaler goes in and buys in bulk and resells them to the individual car dealers.



Wholesaler (noun)


A wholesaler is a business or individual that buys goods in large quantities from manufacturers or distributors and resells them in smaller quantities to retailers, resellers, or other businessesnot typically to end consumers.
 
The segment of Wholesalers in business does not apply to the manufacturer or the retailer and is typically an aggregator of good in between the two who has nothing to do with manufacturing or selling the item retail.

So again you have a lot of independent car dealerships who want to sell tires. If they try to buy direct the cost is too high. A wholesaler goes in and buys in bulk and resells them to the individual car dealers.



Wholesaler (noun)


A wholesaler is a business or individual that buys goods in large quantities from manufacturers or distributors and resells them in smaller quantities to retailers, resellers, or other businessesnot typically to end consumers.
If it doesn't have anything to do with the manufactures where the HELL do they get the products they sell?
Do they just appear out of thin air?
 
You are stupid and do not understand what a Wholesaler is.

A big tire shop buying in bulk and selling to independent dealers is a wholesaler. IF the price of the steal in the tire goes up before the wholesaler buys and resells that tire, that price of steel going up is not the wholesale price.

Be less stupid.

Chinese (other?) company = manufacturer of item or product. US company buys items as manufacturer or Retailer and pays tariffs... Tariffs are added in to retail price customers pay.

That type of relationship is the vast, vast majority of trade impacted by trump tariffs.
NO the " price of steel going up is not the wholesale price." but it will and can influence what the wholesale price is.
If the manufacture passes that increase on to the wholesaler who will pass it on to the retailer who will pass it on to the consumer.
 

So this is Trumponomics​

Trump's tariffs are backfiring on the U.S., Fed finds

A new study from the Federal Reserve found that President Trump’s tariffs are backfiring.

According to the Fed study, the tariffs that went into effect in 2018 have led to not only higher producer prices but also a loss of jobs across the U.S. — particularly in manufacturing. A previous analysis also found that tariffs have cost the U.S. $42 billion so far.

“In terms of manufacturing employment, rising input costs and retaliatory tariffs each contribute to the negative relationship, and the contribution from these channels more than offsets a small positive effect from import protection,” the new Fed study stated. “For producer prices, the relative increases associated with tariffs are due solely to the rising input cost channel. We find little evidence for a relationship between industrial production and any of the three tariff channels considered.”


Trump’s 25% tariffs are backfiring and threatening Gen Z’s trade career aspirations—putting car manufacturing jobs in peril


“This is going to lead to the construction of a lot of plants, in this case auto plants,” Crazy Trump said upon announcing the tariffs in March. “You’re going to see numbers like you haven’t seen…in terms of employment. You’re going to have a lot of people making a lot of cars.”


But the goal to boost U.S. manufacturing work by alienating trading allies hasn’t panned out yet. In reality, most “American-made” vehicles aren’t completely manufactured in the U.S.; parts of these cars—including Ford, Toyota, and Honda—are assembled in Mexico or Canada before being finished in the states. Because of skyrocketing prices from Trump’s 25% tariffs, it’s estimated there will be between 10% and 20% fewer cars produced across North America, according to Cox Automotive. With a decline in demand, less workers would be needed to keep factories running.
Has nothing with people buying fewer cars, eh?
Did you know car prices are DROPPING?
 
And companies absolutely pass their costs on.
You continue with your stupidity. Only the consumer decides if any tariff costs are passed on. Remember, the consumer can just buy from a different company, even one that manufactures in the US and doesn't have to pay any tariffs.

i.e. no tariff being passed on to the consumer.

Tariffs are not magic.
Tariffs are migical things.
 
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