Stringfellow Hawk
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it never expires when we see crocodile tears from a person about long term affects for child while believing it is ok to kill millions
Covid Cases Now 15% Children- Hello, DeSantis and Abbott?
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it never expires when we see crocodile tears from a person about long term affects for child while believing it is ok to kill millions
N 95 are basically respirators. not the surgcal blue mask we all wear
which do not stop virus
COVID is not a preventable disease.
Once in the population "virus gonna virus"
vaccines help a lot, but kids are too young for vaxxing
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ou wouldn’t know it from all the liberal news coverage of Florida’s COVID-19 response, but things are actually pretty good in the Sunshine State.
Take it from a guy who just moved back here on purpose. Florida is doing quite well if you’re a resident who has come here to escape heavy-handed state governments and avoid mandatory masking or vaccines. It’s great if you’re fully vaccinated because you run a less than a 1% chance of COVID-related hospitalization or death. It’s even great for the unvaccinated who choose not to get the vaccine and risk facing an aggressive COVID variant — you will be left alone.
Still, news outlets can’t stop talking about how high the COVID cases are among Floridians, stoking ire against Gov. Ron DeSantis’s laissez-faire pandemic response. They seem genuinely frustrated that DeSantis refuses to impose restrictions that would protect the unvaccinated at the cost of the livelihoods of those who have been vaccinated. "Why must he persist," they seem to wonder, "with this dangerous notion that people who want to get vaccinated can, and those who don’t want to don’t have to?"
The answer is quite simple: Because it works.
Florida is sitting squarely in the middle of the pack when it comes to nationwide state vaccination rates. As of Aug. 8, nearly 60% of the state is at least partly vaccinated, while nearly 50% of the state is fully vaccinated.
Kaiser Family Foundation released an analysis showing that COVID breakthrough cases (vaccinated individuals who have contracted COVID) represent less than 1% of those who have been vaccinated nationwide. The percentage of people who have been vaccinated, contracted COVID, and died is even lower.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, meanwhile, has transitioned “from monitoring all reported COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infections to investigating only those among patients who are hospitalized or die, thereby focusing on the cases of highest clinical and public health significance.” Why? Because the CDC can only track the people who are being hospitalized by the virus — the vaccine, by and large, is doing its job keeping people no more than asymptomatic if they contract COVID.
As of July 26, the CDC reported 6,239 breakthrough hospitalizations nationwide. Of those patients, 26% of those hospitalizations were reported as asymptomatic or not related to COVID. Likewise, the CDC had reported 1,263 breakthrough fatalities, of which 24% were reported as unrelated to COVID.
The country is in a better place than it was a year ago. We have three safe and effective COVID vaccines. Anyone over the age of 12 who wants to get the vaccine can get it, and anyone who doesn’t want the vaccine doesn’t have to. Whether or not to be protected against COVID is, and should be, a decision folks can make all on their own. Florida knows and abides by this, even while getting lambasted everyday by the likes of CNN and White House press secretary Jen Psaki.
To be sure, Florida has faced an increase in hospitalizations over the past month. But it’s clear who is getting sick and hospitalized: younger, unvaccinated people. Through a concerted effort by the DeSantis administration to prioritize early vaccinations for Florida’s most prominent at-risk population, 85% of the state’s elderly population (65 and up) have been vaccinated with one or more doses. Conversely, ages 20-39 are only about 45% vaccinated.
As the state’s government has resisted new restrictions amid rising cases, the severity of the delta variant has come front-of-mind to many unvaccinated people. That’s why, in the past two weeks, Florida has seen an increased rate of vaccinations as the highly infectious and perhaps deadlier variant wreaks havoc on those who have resisted the shot previously. The rising case count has also informed other COVID-safe behavior. More individuals are seen sporting masks indoors and, in some cases, even outdoors.
What it boils down to, and what national news outlets can’t stand, is that Florida won’t sacrifice its economy and people’s freedom to protect the unvaccinated. And why should it when everyone has virtually full, unfettered access to the vaccine?
From Washington, D.C., to the Bay Area counties of California, many public health officials are urging or actively re-implementing mask mandates and other COVID restrictions, “regardless of vaccination status.” In the Sunshine State, regardless of vaccination status, you will be left to your own devices. Given the choice of where to live, I’ll take the risk of freedom every time.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-media-is-lying-on-covid-florida-is-still-doing-well
Take it from a guy who just moved back here on purpose. Florida is doing quite well if you’re a resident who has come here to escape heavy-handed state governments and avoid mandatory masking or vaccines. It’s great if you’re fully vaccinated because you run a less than a 1% chance of COVID-related hospitalization or death. It’s even great for the unvaccinated who choose not to get the vaccine and risk facing an aggressive COVID variant — you will be left alone.
Still, news outlets can’t stop talking about how high the COVID cases are among Floridians, stoking ire against Gov. Ron DeSantis’s laissez-faire pandemic response. They seem genuinely frustrated that DeSantis refuses to impose restrictions that would protect the unvaccinated at the cost of the livelihoods of those who have been vaccinated. "Why must he persist," they seem to wonder, "with this dangerous notion that people who want to get vaccinated can, and those who don’t want to don’t have to?"
The answer is quite simple: Because it works.
Florida is sitting squarely in the middle of the pack when it comes to nationwide state vaccination rates. As of Aug. 8, nearly 60% of the state is at least partly vaccinated, while nearly 50% of the state is fully vaccinated.
Kaiser Family Foundation released an analysis showing that COVID breakthrough cases (vaccinated individuals who have contracted COVID) represent less than 1% of those who have been vaccinated nationwide. The percentage of people who have been vaccinated, contracted COVID, and died is even lower.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, meanwhile, has transitioned “from monitoring all reported COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infections to investigating only those among patients who are hospitalized or die, thereby focusing on the cases of highest clinical and public health significance.” Why? Because the CDC can only track the people who are being hospitalized by the virus — the vaccine, by and large, is doing its job keeping people no more than asymptomatic if they contract COVID.
As of July 26, the CDC reported 6,239 breakthrough hospitalizations nationwide. Of those patients, 26% of those hospitalizations were reported as asymptomatic or not related to COVID. Likewise, the CDC had reported 1,263 breakthrough fatalities, of which 24% were reported as unrelated to COVID.
The country is in a better place than it was a year ago. We have three safe and effective COVID vaccines. Anyone over the age of 12 who wants to get the vaccine can get it, and anyone who doesn’t want the vaccine doesn’t have to. Whether or not to be protected against COVID is, and should be, a decision folks can make all on their own. Florida knows and abides by this, even while getting lambasted everyday by the likes of CNN and White House press secretary Jen Psaki.
To be sure, Florida has faced an increase in hospitalizations over the past month. But it’s clear who is getting sick and hospitalized: younger, unvaccinated people. Through a concerted effort by the DeSantis administration to prioritize early vaccinations for Florida’s most prominent at-risk population, 85% of the state’s elderly population (65 and up) have been vaccinated with one or more doses. Conversely, ages 20-39 are only about 45% vaccinated.
As the state’s government has resisted new restrictions amid rising cases, the severity of the delta variant has come front-of-mind to many unvaccinated people. That’s why, in the past two weeks, Florida has seen an increased rate of vaccinations as the highly infectious and perhaps deadlier variant wreaks havoc on those who have resisted the shot previously. The rising case count has also informed other COVID-safe behavior. More individuals are seen sporting masks indoors and, in some cases, even outdoors.
What it boils down to, and what national news outlets can’t stand, is that Florida won’t sacrifice its economy and people’s freedom to protect the unvaccinated. And why should it when everyone has virtually full, unfettered access to the vaccine?
From Washington, D.C., to the Bay Area counties of California, many public health officials are urging or actively re-implementing mask mandates and other COVID restrictions, “regardless of vaccination status.” In the Sunshine State, regardless of vaccination status, you will be left to your own devices. Given the choice of where to live, I’ll take the risk of freedom every time.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-media-is-lying-on-covid-florida-is-still-doing-well
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Darth,
I am not going to answer your question. Here is why I am blowing it off:
That is not the only concern. That is shortsided thinking.
For a national COVID response policy to be effective, it must be a unified response shared by the same society it is meant to protect.
Leaving the choice of whether or not to participate in the response up to individuals, does not result in a unified response.
LOGICALLY:
1. A unified response is best for a common threat.
2. The more people who participate in the response, the more effective it can be.
3. If nobody participates, the response will have no effect at all.
4. The more people who do participate, the more effective the response will be.
I am not going to answer your question. Here is why I am blowing it off:
That is not the only concern. That is shortsided thinking.
For a national COVID response policy to be effective, it must be a unified response shared by the same society it is meant to protect.
Leaving the choice of whether or not to participate in the response up to individuals, does not result in a unified response.
LOGICALLY:
1. A unified response is best for a common threat.
2. The more people who participate in the response, the more effective it can be.
3. If nobody participates, the response will have no effect at all.
4. The more people who do participate, the more effective the response will be.
nope they are poor spreaders, they are mostly asymptomatic
Bit you cant vaxx them and masks are useless (repeating for the dummies like yourself)
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Effective use of masks requires that everyone participate in using them.
That is because masks are most effective in protecting others, not the wearer.
Masks help the wearer to keep their own germs to themselves.
They are far less effective at preventing ambient germs from being taken in by the wearer.
Masks must be worn by everyone to have the best effect at preventing disease transmission.
After all. Men don't wear condoms to prevent themselves from getting pregnant.
That is because masks are most effective in protecting others, not the wearer.
Masks help the wearer to keep their own germs to themselves.
They are far less effective at preventing ambient germs from being taken in by the wearer.
Masks must be worn by everyone to have the best effect at preventing disease transmission.
After all. Men don't wear condoms to prevent themselves from getting pregnant.
Stringfellow Hawk
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Darth Omar
Russian asset
Google the Covid mortality rate for healthy kids and get back with us, Genius.
That was actually a good piece Anatta linked for a couple reasons: one is it illustrated how democrats are hell bent on cynically using the CCP bug as a political weapon.
The other reason is that the article exposes the weakness in the democrats argument. FL is more than Covid. Obviously, a trite statement but democrats have forced us into making them. FL has the jobs and economy *precisely because* DeSantis and his rebellion against the ‘one size fits all’ method of warding off the Bat Lady’s CCP bug. And it’s worked. People either know it or they don’t fret over the Bug enough to keep them from going to FL.
Speaking of going to FL. It would be great to know how many of the FL cases can be tracked back to illegal migrants. Unfortunately, due entirely to Biden’s border non-policy it’s impossible to put a number on it. Because they are being allowed in and then given free transportation to wherever.
And why wouldn’t YOU go to FL if you migrated here for work?
Arggghhhhhh! Our palm trees are dead 
I’m so sad, but in a way, happy to be rid of them. They are a hazard in hurricanes and the seeds they drop are horrible for our pool. We got a great price to remove them.
I’m so sad, but in a way, happy to be rid of them. They are a hazard in hurricanes and the seeds they drop are horrible for our pool. We got a great price to remove them.
Hopefully the ones for kids under age 12 will be approved soon.
Arggghhhhhh! Our palm trees are dead
I’m so sad, but in a way, happy to be rid of them. They are a hazard in hurricanes and the seeds they drop are horrible for our pool. We got a great price to remove them.
Aw shoot. I know you were hoping that they would make it.
You didn't want to stop it.
I’ve heard October!
Of course it is...the pandemic has been raging for 20 months and I still haven't caught it.
Well then I suppose playing it down for 6 months was a gigantic fucking mistake on your part.
No they're not. Kids get vaccinations all the time.
Florida has set new infections and new ICU case records daily the last two weeks.
Awesome.