Interesting chart a friend of mine found; was a little surprised over where the US sits.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
COVID-19 Map
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Teflon Don
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Take a away the shit show in NYC and the US doesn't have a problem and doesn't even register with other countries
NYC should be counted all by itself
Mario the Pious sucks
NYC should be counted all by itself
Mario the Pious sucks
The CDC has told physicians and medical examiners to "assume" that everyone who dies has COVID-19.
Teflon Don
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Did I say that?
Liar
“Shit show in New York”. Why take it away, moron? It’s as part of the US as California, which you also denigrate, or your Buttfuck, USA.
Teflon Don
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Look I am fine with this hitting the shit out of blue states. It just shows how fucked up they are and how great we are in the south..
That's a false statement. If it was truth, then you should be able to link the quote.
floridafan
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We have tested 1% of our population- be proud
BartenderElite
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NYC is the hub of the world. There is also this thing called "population density."
Not much analysis in ascribing their issues right now to "poor management." That observation also isn't likely to age well given reports of spread to rural states.
Smart, sane people can compare the map to population density. Especially the US map: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map
Only a science-denier would claim the disease isn't going to spread through lower density areas of the US at a constant, but slower rate.
Here's something else to think about: Due to the long incubation period of this disease, it would be transmitted over several months among a small, low density population then see a few of those infected visit a large, high density city for pleasure, a wedding or a funeral and see this cycle repeat.
FWIW, I stay away from concrete canyons, always have. Except when stationed in California, I have always lived in rural areas. That said, anyone who expresses a desire to see NYC burn to the ground, get nuked or otherwise destroyed is asking for the economic collapse of the United States. They are either fucking morons or anti-American to have such a desire.
Issued March 24, the guidance tells hospitals to list COVID-19 as a cause of death regardless of whether or not there’s actual testing to confirm that’s the case.
Instead, even if the coronavirus was just a contributing factor or if it’s “assumed to have caused or contributed to death,” it can be listed as the primary cause.
The International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems, or ICD, has established the code U07.1 for death by coronavirus infection. There’s a secondary code, U07.2, “for clinical or epidemiological diagnosis of COVID-19 where a laboratory confirmation is inconclusive or not available,” according to the CDC guidance.
“Because laboratory test results are not typically reported on death certificates in the U.S., NCHS is not planning to implement U07.2 for mortality statistics.”
Therein lies the problem.
“The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate. However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID- 19 being the underlying cause more often than not,” the guidelines read.
“COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc.,” the guidance continued.
“If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II.”
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/...w-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/cdc-tells-hospitals-list-covid-cause-death-even-just-assuming-contributed
“An accurate count of the number of deaths due to COVID-19 infection, which depends in part on proper death certification, is critical to ongoing public health surveillance and response,” CDC guidance reads. “Ideally, testing for COVID-19 should be conducted, but it is acceptable to report COVID-19 on a death certificate without this confirmation.”
One of the scenarios listed under the CDC "Guidance for Certifying Deaths Due to Coronavirus" says although no testing was done, the coroner determined that the likely underlying cause of death was COVID-19.
https://www.valleynewslive.com/content/news/MN-Sen-Dr--569489461.html
Then there's this:
CDC recommends healthcare providers assume those with mild symptoms to be positive with COVID-19
https://www.wect.com/2020/03/23/cdc-recommends-healthcare-providers-assume-those-with-mild-symptoms-be-positive-with-covid-/
And this:
People who have COVID-19 symptoms should assume they have the illness even if they test negative.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/false-negatives-covid19-tests-symptoms-assume-you-have-illness
Loser.
Issued March 24, the guidance tells hospitals to list COVID-19 as a cause of death regardless of whether or not there’s actual testing to confirm that’s the case.
Instead, even if the coronavirus was just a contributing factor or if it’s “assumed to have caused or contributed to death,” it can be listed as the primary cause.
The International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems, or ICD, has established the code U07.1 for death by coronavirus infection. There’s a secondary code, U07.2, “for clinical or epidemiological diagnosis of COVID-19 where a laboratory confirmation is inconclusive or not available,” according to the CDC guidance.
“Because laboratory test results are not typically reported on death certificates in the U.S., NCHS is not planning to implement U07.2 for mortality statistics.”
Therein lies the problem.
“The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate. However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID- 19 being the underlying cause more often than not,” the guidelines read.
“COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc.,” the guidance continued.
“If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II.”
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/...w-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/cdc-tells-hospitals-list-covid-cause-death-even-just-assuming-contributed
“An accurate count of the number of deaths due to COVID-19 infection, which depends in part on proper death certification, is critical to ongoing public health surveillance and response,” CDC guidance reads. “Ideally, testing for COVID-19 should be conducted, but it is acceptable to report COVID-19 on a death certificate without this confirmation.”
One of the scenarios listed under the CDC "Guidance for Certifying Deaths Due to Coronavirus" says although no testing was done, the coroner determined that the likely underlying cause of death was COVID-19.
https://www.valleynewslive.com/content/news/MN-Sen-Dr--569489461.html
Then there's this:
CDC recommends healthcare providers assume those with mild symptoms to be positive with COVID-19
https://www.wect.com/2020/03/23/cdc-recommends-healthcare-providers-assume-those-with-mild-symptoms-be-positive-with-covid-/
And this:
People who have COVID-19 symptoms should assume they have the illness even if they test negative.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/false-negatives-covid19-tests-symptoms-assume-you-have-illness
China likely has wayyyy more than us. They have just hidden their numbers, and stopped testing.
Your grasp of the English language is tenuous at best.
"Even if the coronavirus was just a contributing factor or if it’s 'assumed to have caused or contributed to death,' it can be listed as the primary cause" and "The CDC has told physicians and medical examiners to "assume" that everyone who dies has COVID-19" are not contradictory statements.
The fact is that nobody knows who has actually died from the Chinese disease.