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Pretty much Yurt. The Atwater, Rove, Limbaugh ilk are all on the right.
Could Ronald Reagan still get the Republican nomination?
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Pretty much Yurt. The Atwater, Rove, Limbaugh ilk are all on the right.
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no, you once again get your facts wrong, they wanted to impeach him for lying under oath. your view of the world is so entirely unbelievable i honestly don't know how you get by.
carter - as a great president and not reagan....that is truly hilarious.
reagan election results 1980...the people of america know a bit more than you....
I know very well what the official reason was for his being hung out to dry, but he should never have been put in that position to start with. Now tell me why Ronnie escaped impeachment for his crimes in Nicaragua and Iran, his whole administration were a bunch of fucking liars from top to bottom.
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probably because the majority of folks realized Congress had really fucked up by trying to block necessary action in Nicaragua.......
no, you once again get your facts wrong, they wanted to impeach him for lying under oath. your view of the world is so entirely unbelievable i honestly don't know how you get by.
carter - as a great president and not reagan....that is truly hilarious.
reagan election results 1980...the people of america know a bit more than you....
SO thats an argument for how great Obama is?
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What I always find incredibly baffling, as well as amusing, is how all these right wingers can bang on about the constitution ad nauseam yet condone Reagan for sanctioning CIA drug running to fund the Contras. What business of the US was it, if Nicaragua elected the Sandinistas anyway?
christiefan915
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no, you once again get your facts wrong, they wanted to impeach him for lying under oath. your view of the world is so entirely unbelievable i honestly don't know how you get by.
carter - as a great president and not reagan....that is truly hilarious.
reagan election results 1980...the people of america know a bit more than you....
Still no comment about Iran-Contra, it figures. That people like you can gloss over this crime says a lot about the mindset of those who worship reagan.
christiefan915
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Exactly! Talk about lying under oath, just look at reagan's and Bush's testimony about Iran-Contra under oath. Bush said he was "out of the loop". reagan said "his heart told him he didn't trade arms for hostages". How did those brazen liars get away with this claptrap? How does the right justify this law-breaking?
"Direct funding of the Contras insurgency had been made illegal through the Boland Amendment[8] the name given to three U.S. legislative amendments between 1982 and 1984, all aimed at limiting US government assistance to the Contras militants. Senior officials of the Reagan administration decided to continue arming and training the Contras secretly and in violation of the law as enacted in the Boland Amendment. Senior Reagan administration officials started what they came to call "the Enterprise," a project to raise money for their illegal funding of the Contras insurgency."
christiefan915
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Nobody's above the law, not even your Messiah reagan.
"Direct funding of the Contras insurgency had been made illegal through the Boland Amendment[8] the name given to three U.S. legislative amendments between 1982 and 1984, all aimed at limiting US government assistance to the Contras militants. Senior officials of the Reagan administration decided to continue arming and training the Contras secretly and in violation of the law as enacted in the Boland Amendment. Senior Reagan administration officials started what they came to call "the Enterprise," a project to raise money for their illegal funding of the Contras insurgency."
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He will bang on forever about whether the HCA is constitutional or not but totally ignore the criminal actions perpetuated by the Reagan Mafia.
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2 articles for the Gipper's acolytes
http://www.slate.com/id/2283940/
http://www.juancole.com/2005/08/fisking-war-on-terror-once-upon-time.html
http://www.slate.com/id/2283940/
http://www.juancole.com/2005/08/fisking-war-on-terror-once-upon-time.html
Court hearings and convictions
The hearings surrounding the scandals were televised from May to August in 1987. Military aide Marine Lt. Colonel Oliver North, former CIA chief William J. Casey, National Security Advisor John Poindexter, former defense secretary Caspar Weinberger, and many other high-ranking government officials were publicly investigated.
It was finally found that National Security Advisor Poindexter had personally authorized the diversion of money to the Contra rebels; all the while withholding the information from President Reagan. The CIA's William J. Casey played a part in the conspiracy, but he died during the hearings.
The hearings surrounding the scandals were televised from May to August in 1987. Military aide Marine Lt. Colonel Oliver North, former CIA chief William J. Casey, National Security Advisor John Poindexter, former defense secretary Caspar Weinberger, and many other high-ranking government officials were publicly investigated.
It was finally found that National Security Advisor Poindexter had personally authorized the diversion of money to the Contra rebels; all the while withholding the information from President Reagan. The CIA's William J. Casey played a part in the conspiracy, but he died during the hearings.
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In the end, fourteen administration officials were indicted, including then-Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger. Eleven convictions resulted, some of which were vacated on appeal.
The rest of those indicted or convicted were all pardoned in the final days of the George H. W. Bush presidency; Bush had been vice-president at the time of the affair.
Some of those involved in the Iran–Contra affair who were convicted of felonies and subsequently pardoned, later became members of the administration of George W. Bush.
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The rest of those indicted or convicted were all pardoned in the final days of the George H. W. Bush presidency; Bush had been vice-president at the time of the affair.
Some of those involved in the Iran–Contra affair who were convicted of felonies and subsequently pardoned, later became members of the administration of George W. Bush.
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What you really mean is that Poindexter took a bullet for Ronnie, the fact is if he really didn't know then he was guilty of gross incompetence for not knowing what his admin were doing in his name.
christiefan915
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That people bought into and still praise the reagan mystique is a tribute to his acting ability, not his supposed leadership qualities.
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I also believe that he garnered a lot of sympathy and votes after the attempt on his life in 1981.