Conservatives think parts of the Constitution are "fake"

Dear shit stain - eat shit. you are a moron
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/occupy

I see I am arguing with a dishonest mental retard now:

occupation noun
oc·​cu·​pa·​tion | \ ˌä-kyə-ˈpā-shən

Definition of occupation

the act or process of taking possession of a place or area : seizure Spain's occupation of the island

the holding and control of an area by a foreign military force the Roman occupation of Britain

the military force occupying a country or the policies carried out by it The occupation addressed the concerns of the local population.


STFU, seriously. :rolleyes:
 
I see I am arguing with a dishonest mental retard now:

occupation noun
oc·​cu·​pa·​tion | \ ˌä-kyə-ˈpā-shən

Definition of occupation

the act or process of taking possession of a place or area : seizure Spain's occupation of the island

the holding and control of an area by a foreign military force the Roman occupation of Britain

the military force occupying a country or the policies carried out by it The occupation addressed the concerns of the local population.


STFU, seriously. :rolleyes:

wow - you are a lying little cunt. nice try removing one of the VALID definitions of occupy from my link - (I used the word occupy)


to reside in as an owner or tenant



hey shit stain - you lose - and your lies have been exposed :rofl2:
 
You'll come around.

Not to your selfishness. Not ever. Not in a million years.

The only reason you are pushing against liberals like Warren and Sanders is because you know that they will spur turnout, which throws your status as the "moderate centrist whose vote everyone chases" into the dumpster because the votes we chase are those of non-voters motivated by things like M4A, #GND, and free public colleges. So you won't have the outsized voice you have had. You won't get the accommodation you're used to getting because we don't need you to win elections.

That's what is really motivating you; trying to preserve your status as the voice in the debate everyone wants to accommodate by suppressing turnout with calls for "moderation" and "BoThSiDeS".

If you're not that voice anymore, then why should anyone give a shit what you think?
 
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You are replying to the wrong person. I realize this. I also point out that even today, most 5-4 decisions are because nobody agrees on how this works

the other guy claims incorporation is not the law.

I thought that post was meant for me.

"He is completely ignorant of our entire history"

So "he" is referring to Into the Night? I know he denies incorporation ever occurred. Yet, the Supreme Court just accepted a case for review to determine whether the incorporation of the 6th amendment jury trial in criminal cases requires unanimous juries for states.

There may be 5-4 decisions because of disagreement, but the 5 determine the law and courts ever since 1925 have accepted incorporation and expanded it.
 
No, he is outright saying it.
Couldnt be farther from the truth, in that case. Lincoln was the quintessential and defining conservative of the day and the founding fathers were definitely against slavery in principle. Lincoln was upholding the morals and principles of our founding fathers through the abolishment of slavery.

In his Cooper Union Address, Lincoln spoke of the sectionalism which was fracturing the country as a result of slavery; the Republican Party was new in 1859, and a serious threat to slavery's existence. Lincoln and his party were called radical and destructive, but he counted himself among the earliest defenders of conservative principles, which was in essence a defense of time-honored, traditional values. Lincoln said that out of the 39 framers of the Constitution, 23 of the 39 voted on whether to prevent the spread of slavery, and that 21 of the 23 voted in favor of doing so. Lincoln therefore said that it was the pro-slavery South that was radically breaking with the tradition begun by those that created the Constitution. As Lincoln said:

Cooperstown Address:
But you say you are conservative - eminently conservative - while we are revolutionary, destructive, or something of the sort. What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried? We stick to, contend for, the identical old policy on the point in controversy which was adopted by "our fathers who framed the Government under which we live;" while you with one accord reject, and scout, and spit upon that old policy, and insist upon substituting something new. True, you disagree among yourselves as to what that substitute shall be. You are divided on new propositions and plans, but you are unanimous in rejecting and denouncing the old policy of the fathers. Some of you are for reviving the foreign slave trade; some for a Congressional Slave-Code for the Territories; some for Congress forbidding the Territories to prohibit Slavery within their limits; some for maintaining Slavery in the Territories through the judiciary; some for the "gur-reat pur-rinciple" that "if one man would enslave another, no third man should object," fantastically called "Popular Sovereignty;" but never a man among you is in favor of federal prohibition of slavery in federal territories, according to the practice of "our fathers who framed the Government under which we live.

Full Source here:
https://www.conservapedia.com/Abraham_Lincoln#Lincoln.27s_conservatism
 
wow - you are a lying little cunt. nice try removing one of the VALID definitions of occupy from my link - (I used the word occupy)
to reside in as an owner or tenant


hey shit stain - you lose - and your lies have been exposed :rofl2:

You become quite the triggered little asswhipe when you are made to look like a dumbass.

Originally Posted by zymurgy View Post
You think our occupying 120+ nations around the globe is constitutional?


occupation noun
oc·​cu·​pa·​tion | \ ˌä-kyə-ˈpā-shən

Definition of occupation

the act or process of taking possession of a place or area : seizure Spain's occupation of the island

the holding and control of an area by a foreign military force the Roman occupation of Britain

the military force occupying a country or the policies carried out by it The occupation addressed the concerns of the local population.


STFU, seriously.
 
Using your own failings as an argument against another. Some people also call this 'projection'.

You just admitted that you know nothing but what you can find on Google. Sad.

Logic. But you deny logic. All fallacies are errors in logic, just like arithmetic errors are errors in mathematics.

((?A->B)->(C->B))->(!(A->B)&(C->B)), an illegal equation in logic.

Inversion fallacy doesn’t exist.
 
Not to your selfishness. Not ever. Not in a million years.

The only reason you are pushing against liberals like Warren and Sanders is because you know that they will spur turnout, which throws your status as the "moderate centrist whose vote everyone chases" into the dumpster because the votes we chase are those of non-voters motivated by things like M4A, #GND, and free public colleges. So you won't have the outsized voice you have had. You won't get the accommodation you're used to getting because we don't need you to win elections.

That's what is really motivating you; trying to preserve your status as the voice in the debate everyone wants to accommodate by suppressing turnout with calls for "moderation" and "BoThSiDeS".

If you're not that voice anymore, then why should anyone give a shit what you think?

A crazy post with many unfounded assumptions. I don't expect anybody to chase my vote, and certainly not Sanders or Warren. I hardly see my vote as a "moderate centrist."

I think Sanders and Warren will spur turnout among liberal activists, but lose the votes of moderate voters. If I was a Republican I would hope my opponent would be Sanders or Warren rather than Biden. They would both be easier to beat.
 
Into the Night has multiple accounts on these boards, and they switch to Into the Night when they cannot defend themselves, and start spamming the board with fallacies.

Yeah, there was another that was obviously him. At one point, I banned them both. enf1234. Something like thst.
 
Relevant. You think you know more than SCOTUS. Guess what, punk? You can’t even keep your fallacies straight.

:rofl2:

For those on the Court that believe words such as healthcare, food stamps, marriage, and the like are in the Constitution, I am.
 
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