Conservatives Sour on College

The difference is the largest majority of Universities in the country are not conservative Christian colleges. And speakers aren't getting met with protesters they are getting met with riots and the speakers aren't able to speak.

So who does it more is your point? :0) Not that there are fewer conservative colleges than liberals colleges .. but if there were more conservative colleges there would be more discrimination? Do you doubt that?

At conservative Christian colleges liberal speakers rarely get invited .. and when they do, they're often met with protests as with Helen Thomas.

Here's what I find hilarious .. conservatives whining about discrimination. :0) Absolutely hilarious.
 
It isn't just happening in college .. it's happening throughout the wider American society.

Conservatism is failing .. look no further than the conservative failures in the healthcare debate.

Who knew the American people were socialists? :0)

They didn't use to be. :(
 
Why don't they attend Christian colleges then?

I encourage my kids to pursue the best. A degree from the so called "Christian" colleges doesn't look nearly as good on a resume as a degree from OU. I don't discourage them from going to college. In fact I encourage it. But I warn them. And most come back and tell me I was right.
 
And I would contend that it is because of an change in the educational system from elementary school through college.

Remember he's a socialist. Even the top Ivy League schools which are very liberal are still sending many of their kids to Wall St, Consulting, Silicon Valley etc. meaning the capitalist world.
 
And I would contend that it is because of an change in the educational system from elementary school through college.

An educational system that teaches them that history is not the same as what you see on TV isn't the blame for conservative failures.

Should they be taught that Davy Crockett was a hero who fought for freedom at the Alamo .. or should they be taught that Crockett fought at the Alamo to preserve the institution and horror of slavery?

Did Americans learn that healthcare benefits all Americans as well as the country from academic institutions or did life teach them that?

LIFE taught them that.
 
When I first saw this survey I shook my head and thought we're fvcked if this is where we are headed. But after reading this article it makes more sense. Folks on this board who otherwise would say they support the first amendment were fine with the shutting down of conservative speakers on campus etc. saying this is a political battle. If Universities are no longer suppose to teach our kids but rather mold them into the type of voters some want them to be then I understand the sentiment from conservatives here.





Conservatives Are Souring on Colleges. Blame Colleges.


No wonder the right distrusts academia. It has turned downright hostile to conservatism.


Despite decades of talk radio hosts complaining about pointy-headed liberal academics, Republicans in 2010 were still pretty fond of higher education. Fifty-eight percent of them said that colleges had a positive effect on the country, a number that ticked along in roughly that range in 2011 … 2012 … 2013 …2014 … then, whoa. It started to go off the cliff, hitting a mere 36 percent in Pew’s most recent poll.

Looking at this poll, Philip Bump of the Washington Post blames this on the focus “by conservative media on tensions at universities."

“Conservative media,” he adds, “focused its attention on the idea of 'safe spaces' on college campuses, places where students would be sheltered from controversial or upsetting information or viewpoints. This idea quickly spread into a broader critique of left-wing culture, but anecdotal examples from individual universities, such as objections to scheduled speakers and warnings in classrooms, became a focal point.”

It’s the sort of theory that may sound plausible on first read, except … see the first sentence of this column. Conservatives in the media have been complaining about liberals in academia for a very long time -- just about as long, in fact, as academia has been trending liberal. After all, William F. Buckley rose to fame, and midwifed the modern conservative movement, after writing "God and Man at Yale." As the book’s title suggests, it complained that elite educational institutions were excessively secular, collectivist and disposed toward government intervention in the economy. It was first published in 1951.

Since then, there have been plenty of mediagenic episodes for conservatives to get outraged over. If you’ve forgotten, Google “Ward Churchill” or “Sandra Fluke,” to name just two of the many, many students and professors whose sagas represent the lefty excesses of academia.

And nonetheless, Republicans apparently kept right on loving their colleges until 2015. After all, many Republicans can thank college for getting them a good job. A team to root for on frosty autumn days. Some lovely, hazy memories of beer pong tournaments. Heck, maybe they even learned something.

So why, just in the last couple of years, would conservatives turn against colleges with a vengeance?

What’s changed, I submit, is that colleges have readily supplied conservatives with images of an institution that is not merely left-leaning, but actively hostile to conservatives, as conservative speech on campus has increasingly been threatened. It started with students pressing for speakers to be disinvited from graduation speeches -- sometimes liberals, but often conservatives. Then angry minorities were allowed to shut down conservative speeches with increasingly raucous protests that eventually turned to violence. And when violence occurred, schools seemed noticeably uninterested in identifying or punishing the people who committed it.

Indeed, schools' responses to leftists' riots have been: to make it maximally inconvenient for conservatives to speak (or be heard); to deliver a slap on the wrist against violent protests; and to allow students to corner, bully and imprecate upon professors.

Academia is a left-wing institution, and I suspect that when the people in charge of it look at left-wing protesters, they see basically good-hearted kids who are overexuberant in their pursuit of the common good. And who wants to wreck the lives of a nice kid who made a bad mistake out of the best possible motives?

Whatever the reason that this has been allowed to happen, the picture that emerges from these events is of an academia where orderly conservatives are unwelcome, but disorderly -- even violent -- leftists are tolerated. No wonder conservatives' opinion of academia is falling.

Compare the welcome that the socialist Senator Bernie Sanders received at fundamentalist Liberty College to the chaos when right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos spoke at Berkeley. If Sanders had gotten the Milo treatment, liberals might start to question whether academia is an unalloyed good. Conservatives have seen one disturbing incident after another in a short period of time. Whose fault is that? Not conservative media. Blame the rioters and the universities that allow them -- and the smartphones that have made it easy to capture the misbehavior in vivid, viral videos.

Schools are going to have to adjust to the new realities of our panopticon world just as police departments have. They cannot defend the principle of free speech while winking at violations, because those violations are apt to become national events. When violent students try to shut down discourse, a quiet slap on the wrist is no longer an option.

Even setting aside high-minded ideals, administrators should crack down out of simple self-interest. Their jobs almost all ultimately depend on government funding, either directly, from state legislatures, or indirectly, through subsidized student loans. They also depend on contributions from alumni who are, as a group, much more conservative than either the activists or the administrations. And finally, they depend on students, parents and employers to continue to think that a degree from their institution is valuable. As the University of Missouri at Columbia found out, that is not something you can simply take as a given.

If universities brand themselves as explicitly left-wing institutions that make no effort to be fair to conservative views … if they allow left-wing groups to appoint themselves as the thought police of what is theoretically a shared space … then they will open up gaping holes in their budgets and their enrollments, and the left’s fiefdom will fall to the enemy. It would behoove them to seek a binding peace now, one that offers both sides some living room. That could reverse the tanking public support for universities.


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Plenty of conservative colleges to choose from. Go to Liberty or BYU. Quit your bitching, keep your nose to the grindstone and get the fuck out in 4 years.
 
Sorry brother, but I can't think of a better word then, that's just out-of-this-world mindboggling DUMB. Shockingly thin-skinned.

Don't go to college because you might hear things your daddy didn't tell you .. and God knows that what your daddy tells you is the only things you should consider or take seriously.

couldn't agree more......so why is it lib'ruls want to ban people who say things they don't want to hear?......
 
Five of my best USC buddies lean right politically and if for some reason their kids don't get into 'SC they'll accept an Ivy for their back up.

But they also won't sit idally by if Mizzou deuce goes down.

So how are they judged?
 
Five of my best USC buddies lean right politically and if for some reason their kids don't get into 'SC they'll accept an Ivy for their back up.

But they also won't sit idally by if Mizzou deuce goes down.

So how are they judged?

You do realize that if they don't get into USC as legacies, they won't have a shot at even U Penn, right?
 
You do realize that if they don't get into USC as legacies, they won't have a shot at even U Penn, right?

Come on 3D! Times are changing. Kids are getting into Stanford but not USC now.

Shit is getting real. And I'm not saying it's all good
 
Come on 3D! Times are changing. Kids are getting into Stanford but not USC now.

Shit is getting real. And I'm not saying it's all good

Well, as I said, academia is becoming a self-parody. Before long, it will only be the Stanfords and Ivy Leagues of the country that are taken seriously, at all. We'll see how USC weathers the storm. How the fuck did someone get into Stanford that was rejected from USC - legacy?
 
It isn't just happening in college .. it's happening throughout the wider American society.

Conservatism is failing .. look no further than the conservative failures in the healthcare debate.

Who knew the American people were socialists? :0)
you do realize that over the last ten years the conservatives have taken over the majority of state and local governments, right?......
 
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