Conservatives never stop crying about the media,

archives said:
The Fairness Doctrine mandated opposite points of view be heard, how is that not fair?

And about the only free market left in America is the local farmers' market, pure competition is a paragraph in the economics text and that is about it
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Again...can't read. Big Brother don't have the constitutional authority to say, you don't get to speak if you don't have someone that did not pay to have an opposite opinion presented. The courts ruled such and very clearly stated that the FCC does not have the constitutional right to enforce the fairness doctrine...so the FCC freely decided to stop enforcing it in the 80s.

Then the liberals in congress attempted to present legislation that mandated the FCC to enforce something that the courts ruled they did not have to enforce. And it sank like the Titanic. And again...when the liberals where demanding a boycott of every conservative talk radio show....they once again started to beat the war drums demanding a 'fairness doctrine' during the Bush administration...they demanded equal time on the air to respond to conservative points of view...but they did not have the sponsorship to pay the bills. Its simple...the public did not want to hear the Bloviation and bull shit.
 
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cawacko said:
as I said, ignorance is bliss. you think tourism is based on how people vote. You live in a sorry bubble that is losing population. Congrats.
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My lord, do you always think linear? After showing you where people visit as opposed to where they don't, you wanted to know what politics had to do with it, and I explained that those places are what they are due to thier history, which was usually directed left.

Now did I say people traveled there because politics, no, so I have no clue what you are talking about

And I'm not the one in a bubble, the United States isn't defined by the fame of Salina, Kansas, hell, your own icon ain't even from one of those Red States you'd promoting
 
archives said:
My lord, do you always think linear? After showing you where people visit as opposed to where they don't, you wanted to know what politics had to do with it, and I explained that those places are what they are due to thier history, which was usually directed left.

Now did I say people traveled there because politics, no, so I have no clue what you are talking about

And I'm not the one in a bubble, the United States isn't defined by the fame of Salina, Kansas, hell, your own icon ain't even from one of those Red States you'd promoting
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Pete Carroll is from the Bay Area.

Number one tourist city in the U.S. is Charleston.

So please enjoy your dying white little NE bubble.
 
Ralph said:
Again...can't read. Big Brother don't have the constitutional authority to say, you don't get to speak if you don't have someone that did not pay to have an opposite opinion presented. The courts ruled such and very clearly stated that the FCC does not have the constitutional right to enforce the fairness doctrine...so the FCC freely decided to stop enforcing it in the 80s.

Then the liberals in congress attempted to present legislation that mandated the FCC to enforce something that the courts ruled they did not have to enforce. And it sank like the Titanic. And again...when the liberals where demanding a boycott of every conservative talk radio show....they once again started to beat the war drums demanding a 'fairness doctrine' during the Bush administration...they demanded equal time on the air to respond to conservative points of view...but they did not have the sponsorship to pay the bills. Its simple...the public did not want to hear the Bloviation and bull shit.
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Speech can be regulated, no right is absolute

And the fight in the 80 s was over an updating of the Fairness Doctrine from its' intial form that had been ruled upon by the Courts
 
archives said:
Speech can be regulated, no right is absolute

And the fight in the 80 s was over an updating of the Fairness Doctrine from its' intial form that had been ruled upon by the Courts
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Sure it can be regulated.....if you cross the threshold of your fellow citizens right to life or liberty with your speech. Like lying under oath to falsely yelling FIRE and causing harm to your neighbors...etc. But there is no limits placed on opinionated speech...unless you live under a fascist regime. But we do not....you can't make public speech illegal void of due process. And the fairness doctrine has no such authority to declare that its illegal for someone to openly and publicly oppose their political ideology. LMAO Again, I must ask...are you a child? No one has the right to demand their speech be heard on the same venue they heard someone oppose their opinionated view.

HELL I have the right to my opinion that Barry Soetoro is as queer as a 3 dollar bill. What? Are you going to call the speech police on me? Do I really believe that? No...just repeating fake news...what's fair for the goose is fair for the gander. Now that's an example of a fairness doctrine....that already exits..its called the 1st amendment.

Even fake news is protected under the constitution.....for the simple fact that its freely purchased or accepted. Its the duty of the hearer to evaluate in an independent and critical manner with free thought and decide what's BS and what is not...even BS can be entertaining and hurt no one. In a free market place its called Caveat Emptor.

Just look at the 'yellow journalism' the main stream media gets away with....one day they can call someone a traitor and the next day simply retract or correct that statement...after the damage is done.
 
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cawacko said:
Pete Carroll is from the Bay Area.

Number one tourist city in the U.S. is Charleston.

So please enjoy your dying white little NE bubble.
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"Charlestown is number one tourist city in the US?" What? What, you must live in Charlesron

So Charleson draws more tourists than New York, Chicago, Boston, San Francisco, etc., since when?

And the NE isin't dying nor little, nor white, close to a third of the country lives in the NE, without, and the west coast America would resemble Albania
 
archives said:
"Charlestown is number one tourist city in the US?" What? What, you must live in Charlesron

So Charleson draws more tourists than New York, Chicago, Boston, San Francisco, etc., since when?

And the NE isin't dying nor little, nor white, close to a third of the country lives in the NE, without, and the west coast America would resemble Albania
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Read the travel guides. I don't vote for these awards. And yes, Charleston surpassed my City for number one.

And don't talk shit about Pete today.
 
Ralph said:
Sure it can be regulated.....if you cross the threshold of your fellow citizens right to life or liberty with your speech. Like lying under oath to falsely yelling FIRE and causing harm to your neighbors...etc. But there is no limits placed on opinionated speech...unless you live under a fascist regime. But we do not....you can't make public speech illegal void of due process. And the fairness doctrine has no such authority to declare that its illegal for someone to openly and publicly oppose their political ideology. LMAO Again, I must ask...are you a child? No one has the right to demand their speech be heard on the same venue they heard someone oppose their opinionated view.

HELL I have the right to my opinion that Barry Soetoro is as queer as a 3 dollar bill. What? Are you going to call the speech police on me? Do I really believe that? No...just repeating fake news...what's fair for the goose is fair for the gander. Now that an example of a fairness doctrine....that already exits..its called the 1st amendment.
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No,

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Feiner_v._New_York

and the fairness didn't immediately limit speech, but rather specified that it had to provide a platform for the opposition viewpoint, you air endless hours of right wing talk radio you were supposed to offer opportunity for a dissenting point of view

The point you are overlooking is that intial topic was that the conservatives fought against the fairness doctrine then and today they are crying about a supposed unfair media, the fight then wasn't over constitutionality, but talk radio, which the conservatives were defending
 
archives said:
If so, you don't "lean right" nor are you a "conservative democrat," your a moderate, and as much as you won't accept it, the Clinton's Democratic Party is where you fall

The Second Amendemnt reference is unnecessary, no one is talking about taking away guns, regulating guns is the issue, and regulating guns doesn't violate any Amandment, no right is absolute. Personally, I think the Second Amendment is about as relevant as the Third Amendment

And supporting a socialist and then voting for someone who brags about exploiting a capitalist system doesn't seem logical
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Because the way I view it none of the candidates who have been offered up for president the last several cycles weren't logical. I haven't voted "for" a president since George W. Bush the first time he ran. Didn't vote for him he second time.

You're second paragraph. When I say they need to leave it alone...that's what I mean. We have enough regulations and oversights on small arms. And while it may be low on your list of issues, it is at the top two or three of mine. So there's that. But thanks for your guidance. I like talking with smart people.
 
cawacko said:
I'm sure you loved when there essentially only three networks that showed news and zero conservative voices
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The conservative voice is not the problem. The problem is the fact free era of the uneducated rural yokel, its mishmash tapestry of prejudices, distrust of democracy, hate for equality, distrust of science, books, knowledge, ands its hijacking of the former Conservative party. You prarie cattle would rather elect the a classless, add, loathesome fake billionaire gameshow host narcissist than the likes of statesmen Jeb bush or say Marco Rubio. Billy Carter over jimmy Carter. Pt Barnum over William f Buckley. You elected a huckster, a suede shoe salesman, a clown, an incompetent, a fraud, and one with skeletons. He already shuts down dissent in the media, staffs his confidants with conspiracy theorists and climate change deniers, housing and urban development headed by a man yiu wants the agency eliminated. His kids running his business. You will forgive him of anything and everything. You don't care.

He will be impeached and removed from office.
 
cawacko said:
People voting for Obama then Trump doesn't seem logical either does it? I had friends vote for Ron Paul then support Bernie. Sound logical to you? If one doesn't like Hillary who were their options this election?
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Third party if they had standards.
 
Media criticism is a reinforced behavioral response of the right, the right in America is well trained, you gotta give big money credit for creating these Pavlovian people. Say certain words and the right knows exactly what you mean. Thought is absent in a conditioned brain. I'm not sure how one changes that, the New York Times today had a piece on women who voted for Trump and quickly you see the power of agitprop on people who otherwise may be sensible people. WikiLeaks and conservative think tanks along with help from Russian hackers created ideas that fit into a preexisting image of Hillary, an image made over twenty five years. I want to read the book by Zaitchik below even though I have probably heard it all before. For the thinker other books too.

"Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right" Jane Mayer
'Invisible Hands: The Businessmen's Crusade Against the New Deal' Kim Phillips-Fein
"Strangers in Their Own Land - Anger and Mourning on the American Right" Arlie Russell Hochschild
http://thenewpress.com/books/strangers-their-own-land

'The Plot to Hack America: How Putin’s Cyberspies and WikiLeaks Tried to Steal the 2016 Election' by Malcolm Nance

"One of the hardest parts in this election cycle has been separating the human media parasite that is Donald Trump from some of his more humble supporters." reviewer comment - 'The Gilded Rage: A Wild Ride Through Donald Trump's America' by Alexander Zaitchik
 
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