Conservatives: fighting for your freedom to pay money to useless insurance CEO's

PostmodernProphet said:
everything you're afraid to respond to is a "straw man"....


I don't care if Obama is "proposing" that....we're debating what Congress is putting on the table, which apparently has nothing to do with what Obama is "proposing", since it doesn't resemble it....
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Obama proposed a public health insurance option like Medicare. Congress has introduced a bill with such an option included. There is no bill before congress that is suggesting the institution of a single player system.

That's why it's a straw man. There's no fucking single payer system being debated. It's not on the table. It's not even close. Do you realize you're lying or are you just pitifully ignorant?
 
ib1yysguy said:
Gee, I had absolutely no idea Walgreens sold health insurance. Thanks for the tip. Retard.
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I don't give a fuck if you knew it or not.
The informatoin was for Fish, who asked for it.

But since you're a progressive liberal; one would think that you would have given him the same information, in an attempt to help him.

Gee, I wonder why you didn't.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
I don't give a fuck if you knew it or not.
The informatoin was for Fish, who asked for it.

But since you're a progressive liberal; one would think that you would have given him the same information, in an attempt to help him.

Gee, I wonder why you didn't.
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LOL

You still don't get it. Let me spell this out for you. WALLGREENS. DOES. NOT. SELL. HEALTH. INSURANCE.
 
It's so frustrating that USFREEDOM911 represents the class of intellect of the people who oppose Obama's health insurance reform. They don't even know what the fuck health insurance is, but they know they're against reforming it.
 
ib1yysguy said:
Obama proposed a public health insurance option like Medicare. Congress has introduced a bill with such an option included. There is no bill before congress that is suggesting the institution of a single player system.

That's why it's a straw man. There's no fucking single payer system being debated. It's not on the table. It's not even close. Do you realize you're lying or are you just pitifully ignorant?
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what I realize is that you have trouble thinking more than ten minutes ahead.....the plan on the table prohibits private insurance companies from signing up new members....where are they going to be in a few years?
 
I think there's actually a pretty long tradition of people shouting at politicians in America.

The President thinks that if people want to come and have a spirited debate about health care, a real vigorous conversation about it, that's a part of the American tradition and he encourages that, because people do have questions and concerns, and so if people want to come and have their concerns and their questions answered, the President thinks that's important.

Now, if you just want to come to a town hall so that you can disrupt and so that you can scream over another person, he doesn’t think that that's productive, and as a country, we've been able to make progress when people actually talk out what our problems are, not try to shout each other down.
 
DNC said:
I think there's actually a pretty long tradition of people shouting at politicians in America.

The President thinks that if people want to come and have a spirited debate about health care, a real vigorous conversation about it, that's a part of the American tradition and he encourages that, because people do have questions and concerns, and so if people want to come and have their concerns and their questions answered, the President thinks that's important.

Now, if you just want to come to a town hall so that you can disrupt and so that you can scream over another person, he doesn’t think that that's productive, and as a country, we've been able to make progress when people actually talk out what our problems are, not try to shout each other down.
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Lie lie lie...we've seen him tell us to get out of the way...he doesn't want to hear from anyone who doesn't agree with his plan....he told us, "I Won"...we've been told, we won so deal with it...
so stop the friggen lying and get off your knees
 
DNC said:
I think there's actually a pretty long tradition of people shouting at politicians in America.

The President thinks that if people want to come and have a spirited debate about health care, a real vigorous conversation about it, that's a part of the American tradition and he encourages that, because people do have questions and concerns, and so if people want to come and have their concerns and their questions answered, the President thinks that's important.

Now, if you just want to come to a town hall so that you can disrupt and so that you can scream over another person, he doesn’t think that that's productive, and as a country, we've been able to make progress when people actually talk out what our problems are, not try to shout each other down.
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LOL. I want you to get out and "in their face"... "I want you to argue with them"... so on... Then when it comes back, it is suddenly "unamerican"...

:rolleyes:
 
If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.

The Congressional Budget Office has yet to issue cost estimates for the latest versions of the bill approved by three House committees.

Nobody is talking about reducing Medicare benefits.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
proven false, sorry....
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No it hasn't you fucking liar. You know it too.

YOU CANT KEEP YOUR STUPID PLAN. You get grandfathered in. If you want to switch after the bill passes, you can buy a private plan and the only difference is going to be THEY CANNOT DROP YOU FOR A PREEXISTING CONDITION. Why the hell would you object to that?
 
ib1yysguy said:
No it hasn't you fucking liar. You know it too.

YOU CANT KEEP YOUR STUPID PLAN. You get grandfathered in. If you want to switch after the bill passes, you can buy a private plan and the only difference is going to be THEY CANNOT DROP YOU FOR A PREEXISTING CONDITION. Why the hell would you object to that?
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because that isn't the only difference and you know it....and stop calling me a fucking liar...the only problem here is your denial, not my facts....
 
Good health is essential to the economic prosperity and wellbeing of the American people.

Individually, we are less productive when we become ill; collectively, our nation is less secure when burdened with the high cost of disease.

Today, with 45 percent of Americans suffering from a chronic condition and a national fiscal crisis, both our nation’s health and economic security are in peril.

Deteriorating health is a major driver of this crisis. One in five Americans smoke and 66 percent of adults are obese or overweight, fueling a chronic disease epidemic and skyrocketing health care costs. As childhood obesity rates dramatically rise, American children may, for the first time ever, live shorter lives and be less healthy than their parents.

Just as Americans are ailing, so too is our health care system.

The U.S. health care system suffers from considerable fragmentation, inefficiencies and inequities.

The United States spends nearly twice as much on health care, per person, as any other nation, and the health sector constitutes one sixth of our economy.

Yet this significant investment delivers shockingly poor results. America ranks 49th on life expectancy worldwide, 37th on overall health status and performs the worst among industrialized countries at avoiding premature deaths through timely and effective medical care.
 
Good health is essential to the economic prosperity and wellbeing of the American people.
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yeah, ya gotta keep them slaves healthy to work for the "COMMINITY"..and your Masters in the Federal Government..
 
PostmodernProphet said:
because that isn't the only difference and you know it....and stop calling me a fucking liar...the only problem here is your denial, not my facts....
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What other difference is there? You just said they were going to outlaw private insurance, now you're saying they're just going to change it.

Tell us how they're going to change private insurance and how you object to those specific changes.
 
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