Congress is exempt from Obamacare?
- Thread starter Jarod
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I agree, its one thing when the less intelligent of them believe it, that cant really be helped. When the more intelligent of them repeat the lies that they clearly know are lies, that's when its kind of pitiful.
Annie
Not So Junior Member
They were 'in it' before being exempted for it, they were going to have to pay for coverage, before that too was exempted:
Rules for the rest of us, not for the elite.
The Obama critters will never stop their lies.
Annie
Not So Junior Member
No. You are.
Can anyone translate this sentence for me?
tekkychick
New member
Please follow carefully.
Before ACA, people in Congress were covered and the govt (their employer) paid for part of their coverage
After ACA, congress was moved to the exchanges - but the part where their employer paid for part of it got dropped
So the correction is to allow the employer to continue paying for the policy now that they are on ACA
this is not special; this is just restoring something they already had.
My employer pays for part of my health care; there is nothing special about govt paying for part of their employees' health care.
Annie
Not So Junior Member
The rule was put there to bring them into the plan that is going to be the norm for most, those without insurance and those who find their companies have dropped coverages or put them into the exchanges. Since it's such a great idea they shouldn't have their premiums paid for by their employer at 100% subsidy, nor should they be in any plan better than the platinum one offered. Our 'representatives' should live with the full impact of all laws they pass, whether they choose to read them or not.
The bold isn't necessarily true. Nothing got dropped. What happened was that members of Congress and their staffers were required to obtain insurance through the exchanges as opposed to through the Federal Employee Health Benefit Program. The ACA language reads:
The language is all about where they obtain insurance, not how it's paid for.
However, the federal government is the only large employer that is allowed onto the exchanges to provide insurance to its employees and there is no mechanism is the ACA for an employer to make premium contributions to the exchanges. At the same time, the federal government pays about 75% of employee health insurance premium. So the issue became how exactly the government could continue paying a portion of its employees premium as it had previously while its employees obtained insurance through the exchanges. The OPM developed a way for that to happen.
They are following the same rules the rest of us follow. If you worked hard and got a job that pays for your insurance, you should enjoy it. They had insurance well before Obamacare was passed. They are treated the same as every other Americans. Just like my assistant.
That's another lie, it will not be the norm for most who have attained a level of employment where the employer has historically paid for the health insurance. You are taking a group of people who worked hard to get where they are, they took a job that offered a certain compensation package, because they qualified for that job. They are treated JUST LIKE ANY OTHER AMERICAN WHO WORKS HARD ENOUGH TO GET A GREAT JOB.
When I worked for the Government, one of the reasons I stayed was because they paid 100% of my health care coverage, when I left I made more cash, but paid out the nose for health care. I know many who stayed at the government job as prosecutors because they had Pre-existing conditions and needed the great benefits that job offered. The county needed good prosecutors and this was a way the county could entice good attorneys to take the jobs at a lower pay rate.
zappasguitar
Well-known member
The problem is, you can't count on republicans to discuss anything with any honesty at all.
They will take a perfectly reasonable comment and spin it so they can use it to create fear amongst their supporters.